Comments on: Paul Waldman Brings The Pain http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/09/27/paul-waldman-brings-the-pain/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:19:40 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: frameone http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/09/27/paul-waldman-brings-the-pain/#comment-45126 frameone Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:59:49 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2758#comment-45126 Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness.

]]> By: factcheck http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/09/27/paul-waldman-brings-the-pain/#comment-45125 factcheck Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:53:53 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2758#comment-45125 Come to think about it, his worship of Condi makes sense now too. Come to think about it, his worship of Condi makes sense now too.

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/09/27/paul-waldman-brings-the-pain/#comment-45124 Duros62 Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:36:07 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2758#comment-45124 Wow, Frank explains Einstein. but I don't get it. Frank's a tranny? Or he likes trannies? Does that make him teh gay? I thought he was all about tradintional family values... Wow, Frank explains Einstein.

but I don’t get it. Frank’s a tranny? Or he likes trannies? Does that make him teh gay?
I thought he was all about tradintional family values…

]]> By: S http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/09/27/paul-waldman-brings-the-pain/#comment-45123 S Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:49:36 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2758#comment-45123 I don't know how to make this a link ... Frank's a busy boy. www.blogger.com/profile/2770209 I don’t know how to make this a link … Frank’s a busy boy.

http://www.blogger.com/profile/2770209

]]> By: factcheck http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/09/27/paul-waldman-brings-the-pain/#comment-45122 factcheck Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:11:23 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2758#comment-45122 Sorry :) Sorry :)

]]> By: Rounds77 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/09/27/paul-waldman-brings-the-pain/#comment-45121 Rounds77 Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:50:47 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2758#comment-45121 Factcheck -- thanks for the morning surprise. Factcheck — thanks for the morning surprise.

]]> By: factcheck http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/09/27/paul-waldman-brings-the-pain/#comment-45120 factcheck Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:37:22 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2758#comment-45120 z adura, it's one and the same. I frankly don't have that much of an imagination to make something like that up. z adura, it’s one and the same. I frankly don’t have that much of an imagination to make something like that up.

]]> By: z adura http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/09/27/paul-waldman-brings-the-pain/#comment-45119 z adura Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:25:39 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2758#comment-45119 Factcheck, is that really the same Frank??? If so, it explains a lot. Factcheck, is that really the same Frank??? If so, it explains a lot.

]]> By: z adura http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/09/27/paul-waldman-brings-the-pain/#comment-45118 z adura Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:22:15 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2758#comment-45118 To repeat, this is the BEST that Jay can come up to denegrate MM and it is a total farce. I have never had my head so far up the arse of a political ideology. What's it look like up there Jay? To repeat, this is the BEST that Jay can come up to denegrate MM and it is a total farce. I have never had my head so far up the arse of a political ideology. What’s it look like up there Jay?

]]> By: factcheck http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/09/27/paul-waldman-brings-the-pain/#comment-45117 factcheck Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:15:16 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2758#comment-45117 <a href="http://profiles.urnotalone.com/72986" rel="nofollow">Frank is pursuing other interests</a> Don't click link after eating. Frank is pursuing other interests Don’t click link after eating.

]]> By: Rounds77 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/09/27/paul-waldman-brings-the-pain/#comment-45116 Rounds77 Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:00:37 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2758#comment-45116 We need more trolls here. Jay got way too much attention on this thread. Whatever happened to Frank, Pedro and Ian? We need more trolls here. Jay got way too much attention on this thread. Whatever happened to Frank, Pedro and Ian?

]]> By: factcheck http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/09/27/paul-waldman-brings-the-pain/#comment-45115 factcheck Thu, 28 Sep 2006 00:27:48 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2758#comment-45115 frame, he probably left this thread for good. We see this time and time again. He gets spanked, leaves the thread, then appears on another thread peddling the same nonsense. You will find him up the blog now peddling the "anthrax scare? Big deal" meme. frame, he probably left this thread for good. We see this time and time again. He gets spanked, leaves the thread, then appears on another thread peddling the same nonsense. You will find him up the blog now peddling the “anthrax scare? Big deal” meme.

]]> By: frameone http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/09/27/paul-waldman-brings-the-pain/#comment-45114 frameone Thu, 28 Sep 2006 00:01:58 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2758#comment-45114 Because Jay, when you say that Media Matters "leaves out an important piece of context to that quote" but then you find that context in the same Media Matters post, plus a link to the original article it was referencing, that sounds like, you know, a smear to me. Idiot. Because Jay, when you say that Media Matters “leaves out an important piece of context to that quote” but then you find that context in the same Media Matters post, plus a link to the original article it was referencing, that sounds like, you know, a smear to me. Idiot.

]]> By: frameone http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/09/27/paul-waldman-brings-the-pain/#comment-45113 frameone Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:43:06 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2758#comment-45113 "MM leaves out an important piece of context to that quote. It's only when you get further down that you see what Bush said was:" Jesus, is your problem is hat Media Matters didn't put the full quote in the headline? Because they clearly DID provide the context for the headline both within in the post itself and by linking to Barnes article. “MM leaves out an important piece of context to that quote. It’s only when you get further down that you see what Bush said was:”

Jesus, is your problem is hat Media Matters didn’t put the full quote in the headline?

Because they clearly DID provide the context for the headline both within in the post itself and by linking to Barnes article.

]]> By: Quaker in a Basement http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/09/27/paul-waldman-brings-the-pain/#comment-45112 Quaker in a Basement Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:24:35 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2758#comment-45112 Is this the same Jay who spent several days trying to convince us that "had bin Laden cornered but Sandy Berger blew it" is the exact same thing as "never had bin Laden cornered in the first place"? Hilarious, ain't it? Is this the same Jay who spent several days trying to convince us that “had bin Laden cornered but Sandy Berger blew it” is the exact same thing as “never had bin Laden cornered in the first place”?

Hilarious, ain’t it?

]]> By: frameone http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/09/27/paul-waldman-brings-the-pain/#comment-45111 frameone Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:02:31 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2758#comment-45111 "Therefore, to say that Bush claimed bin Laden "is not a top priority" is ... purposely misleading." From the lede paragrah of the <a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/012/696wnfcp.asp" rel="nofollow"> article</a> by Barnes to which the Media Matters article referred and linked to: <blockquote><b>WE NOW KNOW WHY the Bush administration hasn't made the capture of Osama bin Laden a paramount goal of the war on terror.</b> Emphasis on bin Laden doesn't fit with the administration's strategy for combating terrorism. Here's how President Bush explained this Tuesday: "This thing about . . . let's put 100,000 of our special forces stomping through Pakistan in order to find bin Laden is just simply not the strategy that will work."</blockquote> You're a fucking idiot, Jay. “Therefore, to say that Bush claimed bin Laden “is not a top priority” is … purposely misleading.”

From the lede paragrah of the
article by Barnes to which the Media Matters article referred and linked to:

WE NOW KNOW WHY the Bush administration hasn’t made the capture of Osama bin Laden a paramount goal of the war on terror. Emphasis on bin Laden doesn’t fit with the administration’s strategy for combating terrorism. Here’s how President Bush explained this Tuesday: “This thing about . . . let’s put 100,000 of our special forces stomping through Pakistan in order to find bin Laden is just simply not the strategy that will work.”

You’re a fucking idiot, Jay.

]]> By: factcheck http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/09/27/paul-waldman-brings-the-pain/#comment-45110 factcheck Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:18:02 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2758#comment-45110 "It's a standard MO for Media Matters. They parse, take comments out of context..." By posting the entire statement? But I guess Hannity told you that, so it must be true! “It’s a standard MO for Media Matters. They parse, take comments out of context…”

By posting the entire statement? But I guess Hannity told you that, so it must be true!

]]> By: factcheck http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/09/27/paul-waldman-brings-the-pain/#comment-45109 factcheck Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:15:42 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2758#comment-45109 Incidentally, it really weakens his accusations of misleading people when the EXACT QUOTE IN CONTEXT is located in THE SAME ARTICLE. Really, haven't we all had enough of J's lies and misdirection? Incidentally, it really weakens his accusations of misleading people when the EXACT QUOTE IN CONTEXT is located in THE SAME ARTICLE.

Really, haven’t we all had enough of J’s lies and misdirection?

]]> By: factcheck http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/09/27/paul-waldman-brings-the-pain/#comment-45108 factcheck Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:13:07 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2758#comment-45108 Let's summarize, shall we? MM headline: Barnes reported Bush acknowledgment that bin Laden "not a top priority,"... What Barnes said: "Look, you can send 100,000 Special Forces" -- that's the figure he used -- "to the mountains of Pakistan and Afghanistan and hunt him down, but he just said that's not a <b>top priority use of American resources</b>..... [President Bush] says, you know, <b>getting Osama bin Laden is just a low priority </b>compared to that. Rest of MM headline: but ignored Bush's recent emphatic pledges to pursue bin Laden until captured Bush said: In his September 11 speech from the Oval Office, apparently the day before the meeting Barnes attended, Bush said: <b>"Osama bin Laden and other terrorists are still in hiding</b>. Our message to <b>them </b> is clear: No matter how long it takes, <b>America will find you </b>, and we will bring you to justice." Yea, totally different. Actually, exactly the same. Let’s summarize, shall we?

MM headline: Barnes reported Bush acknowledgment that bin Laden “not a top priority,”…

What Barnes said:
“Look, you can send 100,000 Special Forces” — that’s the figure he used — “to the mountains of Pakistan and Afghanistan and hunt him down, but he just said that’s not a top priority use of American resources….. [President Bush] says, you know, getting Osama bin Laden is just a low priority compared to that.

Rest of MM headline:
but ignored Bush’s recent emphatic pledges to pursue bin Laden until captured

Bush said:
In his September 11 speech from the Oval Office, apparently the day before the meeting Barnes attended, Bush said: “Osama bin Laden and other terrorists are still in hiding. Our message to them is clear: No matter how long it takes, America will find you , and we will bring you to justice.”

Yea, totally different. Actually, exactly the same.

]]> By: factcheck http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/09/27/paul-waldman-brings-the-pain/#comment-45107 factcheck Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:07:11 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2758#comment-45107 I should have know crazy jay would mislead. Here's what the MM article REALLY said. Summary: Fred Barnes reported that President Bush told him that capturing Osama bin Laden is not "a paramount goal of the war on terror." Extreme right-wing commentator Fred Barnes quoted: BARNES: Well, he said, "Look, you can send 100,000 Special Forces" -- that's the figure he used -- "to the mountains of Pakistan and Afghanistan and hunt him down, but he just said that's not a top priority use of American resources." His vision of a war on terror is one that involves intelligence to find out from people to get tips to follow them up and break up plots to kill Americans before they occur, as what happened recently in that case of the planes that were to be blown up by terrorists, we think, coming from England. And that's the top priority. <b>He says, you know, getting Osama bin Laden is just a low priority compared to that.</b> If crazyjays got a problem with the article he needs to take it up with fauxnews, not MM. How dare MM report what people really said! I should have know crazy jay would mislead. Here’s what the MM article REALLY said.

Summary: Fred Barnes reported that President Bush told him that capturing Osama bin Laden is not “a paramount goal of the war on terror.”

Extreme right-wing commentator Fred Barnes quoted:
BARNES: Well, he said, “Look, you can send 100,000 Special Forces” — that’s the figure he used — “to the mountains of Pakistan and Afghanistan and hunt him down, but he just said that’s not a top priority use of American resources.” His vision of a war on terror is one that involves intelligence to find out from people to get tips to follow them up and break up plots to kill Americans before they occur, as what happened recently in that case of the planes that were to be blown up by terrorists, we think, coming from England. And that’s the top priority. He says, you know, getting Osama bin Laden is just a low priority compared to that.

If crazyjays got a problem with the article he needs to take it up with fauxnews, not MM.

How dare MM report what people really said!

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