Dugger: outraged that Democrat’s would try to politically capitalize on Bush trying to politically capitalize on something Bush has failed to achieve.

Rebuttal: argument speaks for itself.

Dugger: is outraged and claims that US soldier’s dying is celebrated by those pointing out that their deaths give lie to what Bush claims.

Rebuttal: no one is happy our soldiers are dying. Dugger seems to be outraged, not by the real life tragedies that are occuring when these deadly and injurious attacks strike, but by the negative political implications they have on his Lord George W Bush.

Dugger: we did not cut and run from Afghanistan:

Rebuttal: Bush pulled out the majority of the special units searching for bin Laden and fighting the Taliban. The Taliban is reestablishing itself and the pro-US government and our coalition control very little of the country.

Dugger: but I want to argue semantics! Cut and Run means pulling out all our troops.

Rebuttal: silly us for thinking it had anything to do with giving up securing the country from being a haven for terrorists and the taliban.

Argument: terrorism has increased, nearly tripling in frequency.

Dugger: no attacks in the US since 9-11.

Rebuttal: no attacks on US soil during Clinton Admin after the first WTC attack.

Dugger Rebuttal: according to the MIPT there were 45 so hahaha Dumbass.

Rebuttal: according to the MIPT databse you cite, there have been 64 terrorism incidents on US soil since 9-11.

Dugger: I CLAIM VICTORY!

“I’m wrong from top to bottom so I’m just going to patronise you to try and make it seem like I’m the sane man surrounded by crazies instead of the opposite.”

You’re an idiot.

OR hand Dugger a bottle and try to make sense of his post …
Dugger | Sep 13, 2006 8:27:07 AM
aprisoner
defcated
Pile of hair next to him. Gurads pull it out.
WHos ays?
Thats yourr Nazis, bubba!!
Oh, horrors, rap music and bad air conditioning. Impeach Bush!!!

Give it another shot on the next item. Maybe you will have your act together by then (uhh, free advise, put ‘chum’ on the bench).

“WE have had no attacks on our soils since 9-11.”

If this is your understanding what are you basing it on? Because if you’re basing on the MITP database you’re as dead wrong as you say I was. Because the MITP lists these two events as terrorist attacks:

2002: Description: Hesham Mohamed Hadayet, an Egyptian-born man, opened fired at the El Al Israeli Airlines ticket counter at the Los Angeles Airport (LAX), killing two people and wounding three others.

2006:
Description: One woman was killed and five other injured when Naveed Afzal Haq, a Muslim-American man, opened fire on the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle building in downtown Seattle.

Now if these aren’t terrorist attacks in your book I’d love to hear why.

Are you kidding me? This is what you’ve been reduced to? Wait, scratch that. You’ve been so full of shit for so long you’ve you’re comments are pure entertainment.

Simply put if you want to count a handful of random shootings as acts of global jihadism then Clinton and Bush have the exact same record on keeping terrorism away from American shores only Bush’s failures come with a higher body count, billions of wasted dollars, and the enmity of the entire world. I’ll take Clinton’s record over Bush’s any day of the week. You’re fucking joke.

Hey, I’ve got a great idea for the Decider. Let’s attack Iran!!!

Rallying point? Bad for Bush?

Who said that?

frame said the above. His ignorance was made public. He then screeched, spewed a lot more of his venom and then talked about incidents from 2001 forward – as if he never made the gross mistake I caught him on.

All in all, this has been a disastrous item for progressives: frame’s above embarrasing public ignorance, “”‘factcheck”"” announces we have cut and run in Afghan despite 20,000 plus coalition troops on site, chum (who the hell is he?) is talking about a conspiracy that is not secret and involves the World Bank and Trotsktyists and being successfully conducted by crazy people.

Well, let this be a lesson to you. Maybe the left won’t be so eager to jump on the next terrorist attack as some kind of progressive rallying point.

OR does he suffer from such unwavering loyalty to the Commander in Chief, as a result of his military background, that he believes in sacrificing anything and anyone to support The Decider?

“WE have had no attacks on our soils since 9-11.”

Now unless the plural “soils” has some significance I’m not aware of, Dugger, was also, to use his own words: “100% wrong.” Idiot.

So the revised total of deaths attributable to Islamic terror attacks on US soil between 1993 and 2000: 5

1993:
Description: UNITED STATES. A gunman approached cars at the entrance of the CIA Virginia headquarters shortly before 8AM and randomly fired into several cars with an AK-47 rifle. Two CIA employees were killed and three others were wounded in the attack. The gunman escaped in a nearby car. The suspect in the shooting is 28-year-old Pakistani national Mir Amal Kansi of Reston, VA. A possible connection to a 1984 assassination of a Pakistani politician in Quetta is being investigated.

Description: UNITED STATES. The World Trade Center in Manhattan suffered a bomb explosion in the parking garage that killed 6 and injured 1042.

1994:
Description: UNITED STATES. A Lebanese immigrant, Rashid Baz, opened fire on a van crossing the Brooklyn Bridge, wounding four Hasidic Lubavitch rabbinical students (one of whom died four days later).

1997:
Description: UNITED STATES. A letter bomb, the fifth, addressed to Al-Hayat in Washington, was intercepted at the Washington central mail distribution point. It was similar to the other four that were found at the Al-Hayat offices.

Description: UNITED STATES. Two letter bombs, also sent inside musical Christmas cards, were sent to the Federal Prison at Leavenworth. Kansas. They were addressed to “Parole Officer” and postmarked from Egypt. One of the World Trade Center (1993) bombers is an inmate at Leavenworth.

Description: UNITED STATES. A third letter bomb addressed to Leavenworth Prison was found at the post office. Two others had previously been delivered to the prison. It was similar to the others as well as to the five sent to the Al-Hayat newspaper’s office in Washington, DC.

Description: UNITED STATES. Four letter bombs, addressed to the Saudi Arabian newspaper Al Hayat, were discovered and safely defused at the UN where the paper has offices. They were similar to all the others that have been sent to Al-Hayat’s offices in Washington and London.

Description: UNITED STATES. A Jewish man (Harry Shapiro) of Jacksonville, Florida placed a pipe bomb at a synagogue to disrupt the speech of former Israeli PM (Peres). The bomb did not explode; instead, it was found by 3 children and passed over to the police on 22 February. The charged man affiliated himself with the American fringe of Islamic Jihad.

Description: UNITED STATES. A Palestinian opened fire on the observation deck of the Empire State Building in NYC. He killed a Danish tourist and wounded an American, Argentinian, a Swiss and French tourist. He then shot himself. He claimed that the attack was to punish “enemies of Palestine”.

That’s three individual shooting sprees, eight letter bombs (undetonated), one pipe bomb (undetonated) and the first WTC bombing.

Total deaths: 173

Now do you really want to continue on with this comparison?

84 incidents of terrorism in the US on Bush’s watch.
64 Since 9-11.

versus 45 on Clinton’s watch.
of the international terrorism incidents on Clinton’s watch we have 19:

9 Targetting Muslims
4 Perpetrated by Muslims