Comments on: That Thing In The Mirror Is You http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/08/26/that-thing-in-the-mirror-is-you/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:30:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/08/26/that-thing-in-the-mirror-is-you/#comment-42463 Duros62 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:01:45 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2600#comment-42463 Ok, so it's only lying if a judge decides it is. Gotcha. Ok, so it’s only lying if a judge decides it is. Gotcha.

]]> By: Roche http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/08/26/that-thing-in-the-mirror-is-you/#comment-42462 Roche Wed, 30 Aug 2006 00:59:10 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2600#comment-42462 Duros: Come on, don't put Dugger "under the spot" like that. Duros:

Come on, don’t put Dugger “under the spot” like that.

]]> By: Dugger http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/08/26/that-thing-in-the-mirror-is-you/#comment-42461 Dugger Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:47:46 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2600#comment-42461 "So now your position is that the president has never uttered a falsehood?' Am I the only serious one here. The above has never been my position. Perjury is a legal finding. I might think differently, but I could not deny the certification via legal process of lying. “So now your position is that the president has never uttered a falsehood?’

Am I the only serious one here. The above has never been my position.

Perjury is a legal finding. I might think differently, but I could not deny the certification via legal process of lying.

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/08/26/that-thing-in-the-mirror-is-you/#comment-42460 Duros62 Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:02:36 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2600#comment-42460 You know, you never did tell me how one proves perjury, in your view. You know, you never did tell me how one proves perjury, in your view.

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/08/26/that-thing-in-the-mirror-is-you/#comment-42459 Duros62 Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:53:04 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2600#comment-42459 You can lead a con to water, but you can't make him admit that its water. You can lead a con to water, but you can’t make him admit that its water.

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/08/26/that-thing-in-the-mirror-is-you/#comment-42458 Duros62 Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:51:35 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2600#comment-42458 So now your position is that the president has never uttered a falsehood? How about when he said all NSA wiretapping was warranted when in fact it was not and he knew at the time it was not? Don't have the quote or the link, but it was back a ways. So now your position is that the president has never uttered a falsehood?
How about when he said all NSA wiretapping was warranted when in fact it was not and he knew at the time it was not? Don’t have the quote or the link, but it was back a ways.

]]> By: Dugger http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/08/26/that-thing-in-the-mirror-is-you/#comment-42457 Dugger Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:35:41 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2600#comment-42457 duros, You have not provided me with 'sufficent' evidence of anything. Its undoubtedly sufficient to a Bush hater - but not for me. Check out the thread below where Midder thinks Bush lied about the timing of when he saw the airplane crash into the building. duros,

You have not provided me with ‘sufficent’ evidence of anything. Its undoubtedly sufficient to a Bush hater – but not for me.

Check out the thread below where Midder thinks Bush lied about the timing of when he saw the airplane crash into the building.

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/08/26/that-thing-in-the-mirror-is-you/#comment-42456 Duros62 Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:04:07 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2600#comment-42456 You assert that someone who tells a falsehood and believes it to be true is not lying. I and others have provided you with suuficient evidence that the President of the United States has uttered falsehoods and believed them to be true. We are not arguing that the president has lied to himself, if that is the only measure that you use to determine someone's truthfulness. Perhaps I don't know what the president was thinking when he made such claims/falsehoods (my guess is not much), but "I don't need a compass to see which way the wind shines." <b>"I believe it is an established maxim in morals that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false, is guilty of falsehood; and the accidental truth of the assertion, does not justify or excuse him." </b>- Abraham Lincoln, from the August 11, 1846 Letter to Allen N. Ford You assert that someone who tells a falsehood and believes it to be true is not lying.

I and others have provided you with suuficient evidence that the President of the United States has uttered falsehoods and believed them to be true.

We are not arguing that the president has lied to himself, if that is the only measure that you use to determine someone’s truthfulness.
Perhaps I don’t know what the president was thinking when he made such claims/falsehoods (my guess is not much), but “I don’t need a compass to see which way the wind shines.”

“I believe it is an established maxim in morals that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false, is guilty of falsehood; and the accidental truth of the assertion, does not justify or excuse him.” - Abraham Lincoln, from the August 11, 1846 Letter to Allen N. Ford

]]> By: Dugger http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/08/26/that-thing-in-the-mirror-is-you/#comment-42455 Dugger Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:07:44 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2600#comment-42455 duros66, Didn't catch that lie. duros66,

Didn’t catch that lie.

]]> By: z adura http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/08/26/that-thing-in-the-mirror-is-you/#comment-42454 z adura Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:28:41 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2600#comment-42454 I have never really understood people like Dana who actually think people on the left want terror attacks. It should not go unnoticed that most of the blue areas on the map are high population density states, particularly New York and DC, where the 9/11 attacks happened in the first place. I would bet that most New Yorkers are no more than 2 degrees of separation from 9/11 victims. Given this, why logically do you think urbanites would continue to vote Democratic? I personally would disagree with the author at HuffPo. We did have another terrorist attack, Katrina, in which Bush said to assembled local politicians and tacticians that he would "do all it could" to prevent a catastrophe. Then he went to a guitar lesson in California and a birthday party in Arizona. We don't need another election cycle to realize that this guy, despite his furrowed brow and serious rhetoric, can and will do nothing to save his fellow Americans. I have never really understood people like Dana who actually think people on the left want terror attacks. It should not go unnoticed that most of the blue areas on the map are high population density states, particularly New York and DC, where the 9/11 attacks happened in the first place. I would bet that most New Yorkers are no more than 2 degrees of separation from 9/11 victims. Given this, why logically do you think urbanites would continue to vote Democratic?

I personally would disagree with the author at HuffPo. We did have another terrorist attack, Katrina, in which Bush said to assembled local politicians and tacticians that he would “do all it could” to prevent a catastrophe. Then he went to a guitar lesson in California and a birthday party in Arizona. We don’t need another election cycle to realize that this guy, despite his furrowed brow and serious rhetoric, can and will do nothing to save his fellow Americans.

]]> By: JadeGold http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/08/26/that-thing-in-the-mirror-is-you/#comment-42453 JadeGold Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:32:49 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2600#comment-42453 Geez, Dana, you make Rob Port sound educated. And that's no mean feat. Obviously, you didn't read the HuffPost article--if you had you'd note the author plainly states, several times, the loss of just one American life would be too many. Geez, Dana, you make Rob Port sound educated. And that’s no mean feat.

Obviously, you didn’t read the HuffPost article–if you had you’d note the author plainly states, several times, the loss of just one American life would be too many.

]]> By: Dana http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/08/26/that-thing-in-the-mirror-is-you/#comment-42452 Dana Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:38:38 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2600#comment-42452 Mr Willis, I've got to ask: did you <i>read</i> the site you quoted? The writer was protesting the fact that some idiot fine gentleman suggested on the Huffington website that another September 11th attack would be a <i>good</i> thing, if the resulting damage and lives lost tipped the 2006 elections to the Democrats. Well, I'll ask you directly: if there were two, and only two options (1 - another terrorist attack, resulting in 3,000 dead and Democrats capturing both Houses of Congress; or 2- No terrorist attack, and the Republicans retaining control of Congress in the 2006 elections), which would you prefer? Mr Willis, I’ve got to ask: did you read the site you quoted? The writer was protesting the fact that some idiot fine gentleman suggested on the Huffington website that another September 11th attack would be a good thing, if the resulting damage and lives lost tipped the 2006 elections to the Democrats.

Well, I’ll ask you directly: if there were two, and only two options (1 – another terrorist attack, resulting in 3,000 dead and Democrats capturing both Houses of Congress; or 2- No terrorist attack, and the Republicans retaining control of Congress in the 2006 elections), which would you prefer?

]]> By: Nimrod Gently http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/08/26/that-thing-in-the-mirror-is-you/#comment-42451 Nimrod Gently Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:26:32 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2600#comment-42451 Dugger, are you really comfortable with the fact that, to defend Bush's murderous lies, you effectively have to come up with a formula to demonstrate that no-one has ever provably lied? Dugger, are you really comfortable with the fact that, to defend Bush’s murderous lies, you effectively have to come up with a formula to demonstrate that no-one has ever provably lied?

]]> By: JadeGold http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/08/26/that-thing-in-the-mirror-is-you/#comment-42450 JadeGold Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:15:42 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2600#comment-42450 Again, Dugger inadvertently suggests AWOL George is either a psychopath or a liar by demanding to know what AWOL George thought when he asserted something that was demonstrably false. Again, Dugger inadvertently suggests AWOL George is either a psychopath or a liar by demanding to know what AWOL George thought when he asserted something that was demonstrably false.

]]> By: Dugger http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/08/26/that-thing-in-the-mirror-is-you/#comment-42449 Dugger Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:04:14 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2600#comment-42449 duros66, And do you have one single example where, when Bush said something, you, uniquely among human kind, were able to actually tell what he really knew. What is your one example that now, finally, ends the progressives'shutout on proving Bush lies. Have at it. I'm ready to accept that, now at long last, duros66 has the provable lie. And it is???? duros66,

And do you have one single example where, when Bush said something, you, uniquely among human kind, were able to actually tell what he really knew. What is your one example that now, finally, ends the progressives’shutout on proving Bush lies.
Have at it. I’m ready to accept that, now at long last, duros66 has the provable lie.

And it is????

]]> By: Ian http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/08/26/that-thing-in-the-mirror-is-you/#comment-42448 Ian Sun, 27 Aug 2006 07:45:46 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2600#comment-42448 What's funny is, the left complains Republicans have politicized terror, when in the process, it is they who have. What’s funny is, the left complains Republicans have politicized terror, when in the process, it is they who have.

]]> By: Nimrod Gently http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/08/26/that-thing-in-the-mirror-is-you/#comment-42447 Nimrod Gently Sun, 27 Aug 2006 01:38:16 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2600#comment-42447 <blockquote>this is just what happens when a major political movement becomes more about opposing the other side than doing what is best for the country</blockquote>Wait, did he just...is he... HAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA HA HAHA HAA Oh dear God, shame is just an alien concept isn't it AH HA HA HA HA you goddamned imbecile. <a href="http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/4521213200.jpg" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/4521213200.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/4521213200.jpg</a></a>

this is just what happens when a major political movement becomes more about opposing the other side than doing what is best for the country

Wait, did he just…is he…

HAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA HA HAHA HAA

Oh dear God, shame is just an alien concept isn’t it AH HA HA HA HA you goddamned imbecile.

http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/4521213200.jpg

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/08/26/that-thing-in-the-mirror-is-you/#comment-42446 Duros62 Sat, 26 Aug 2006 19:12:20 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2600#comment-42446 Dugger, this is for you, buddy. "I believe it is an established maxim in morals that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false, is guilty of falsehood; and the accidental truth of the assertion, does not justify or excuse him." - Abraham Lincoln, from the August 11, 1846 Letter to Allen N. Ford Dugger, this is for you, buddy.

“I believe it is an established maxim in morals that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false, is guilty of falsehood; and the accidental truth of the assertion, does not justify or excuse him.” – Abraham Lincoln, from the August 11, 1846 Letter to Allen N. Ford

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/08/26/that-thing-in-the-mirror-is-you/#comment-42445 Duros62 Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:58:44 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2600#comment-42445 Maybe not enjoyed, but certainly capitalized on it. Like I said, Hattie, satires on sacar, irony when my shirts is wrinkled. :-) Maybe not enjoyed, but certainly capitalized on it.
Like I said, Hattie, satires on sacar, irony when my shirts is wrinkled. :-)

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/08/26/that-thing-in-the-mirror-is-you/#comment-42444 Oliver Willis Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:57:04 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2600#comment-42444 I don't Jay, but clearly the right has enjoyed the first one. I don’t Jay, but clearly the right has enjoyed the first one.

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