In response to this graphic, currently posted on the front of Kos-wannabe site Redstate.
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August 9th, 2006
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They’re both ridiculous cheap shots, but at least yours is accurate.
It’s nice how that hoary old Phyllis Schlafly/John Birch society tactic of using ‘Democrat’ as an adjective has become standard usage among conservatives. It’s like a little flag saying “Ignore me. I’m retarded, and have nothing but hatred to offer.”
Quite a time saver, really.
Add a good Katrina shot as an example of Republican preparedness.
E.X.A.C.T.L.Y.
Is that smoked altered by some single photographer, which points to the overall bias of the media?
Dr. Anatole Gavage-Huskanoy said:
“Ignore me. I’m retarded, and have nothing but hatred to offer.”
Nothing works quite as well as the direct method, eh, doc?
Oscar Wilde lives.
They didn’t have that kind of smoke in 2001, and the kerning is all wrong.
Awesome, Factcheck! For a second, I thought I was over at Powerline!
I’m trying to think of rational reasons that that much smoke would come out of a building, and I’m coming up with nothing. Nada. Zip.
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What an ignorant post.
If we’re going down this road, I might as well put together an image of the USS Cole, first bombing of the World Trade Center, bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Tanzania, and bombing of a US Military base in Riyadh.
I’ll label it ‘The the Democrats record on National Security.’
I mean fair is fair, right?
Yeah, but seeing as how you said, without irony, that you actually trust George W. Bush to protect your country, no-one would take it seriously.
I see you’ve conveniently photoshopped the Clenis out of your picture.
Ignorant poster derek sez:
If we’re going down this road, I might as well put together an image of the USS Cole, first bombing of the World Trade Center. . .>>
The WTC bombing occurred 38 days after GHWB left office. Maybe you should spread your blame to 41’s adminstration, as most planning, reconnaisance and preparation for the bombing occurred during its watch.
gasp
you threw the chair
let me get you another, this is something I can get behind.
buma,
not to mention that Clinton, I suspect, did not get a PDB saying “blah blah blah, US warships blah, speedboats used as weapons, etc etc”
What an ignorant post.
If we’re going down this road, I might as well put together an image of the USS Cole, first bombing of the World Trade Center, bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Tanzania, and bombing of a US Military base in Riyadh.
I’ll label it ‘The the Democrats record on National Security.’
I mean fair is fair, right?
Um, Derek. Where have YOU been the last 6 years. They do that constantly, you idiot.
In every example you cite, there was no advance warning of an imminent attack. Nobody sat on his ass on the ranch while the plot went forward.
In addition, except for the Cole, the major perps were identified, captured, and jailed. Some were executed. Clinton also retaliated by destroying several al Qaeda training camps with cruise missiles – to the choruses of derision from Republicans intent on the Monica affair. The Republicans were worried that any foreign policy success for Clinton – even one that would be good for the country – would increase his popularity and make their single-minded impeachment crusade harder.
The only reason the Cole bombing didn’t lead to retaliatory action is that President-Elect George W. Bush cancelled the ongoing investigation and removed the 100+ agents of the FBI and JTTF Clinton had sent to Yemen soon after entering office, putting the matter on the shelf.
9/11’s architect, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, later told American interrogators that the fact that Bushignored the bombing and was uninterested in going after its perpetrators (including himself) convinced him that it was now time to try an attack on the US homeland.
By the way…can you name one Republican who joined the Clinton administration in bi-partisan efforts against foreign terrorism during those last years?
9/11 differs quantitatively and qualitatively from all of these.
Before the attack:
Unlike his predecessor, the minute Bush came into office, the entire administration put the issue of terrorism on the shelf and ignored it. They ignored all of the warnings and briefings the outgoing Clintonistas gave them. They ignored dozens of warnings from the FBI and CIA. They ignored the warnings of their own White House counter-terror experts. They didn’t even bother to raise the alert level with border and airport security.
During the attack:
Bush apparently froze in panic and indecision and failed to react to the attacks for over an hour, giving al Qaeda far more time to complete the attacks than they had expected. By the time he woke up and gave his first shootdown order, it was after 10:00 AM, and everything was over.
After the attack:
Bush failed to capture and punish almost all of the men who perpetrated the worst attack on US soil in our history, despite having them all cornered in caves in Tora Bora – in large part because he was already secretly draining money and resources from the Afghan war to start ramping up to invade Saddam, who had nothing to do with the attack.
I’d say that trying to compare the Clinton administration’s somewhat mixed efforts with Bush’s failure to do ANYTHING before the attack, failure to respond quickly and strongly during the attack, and failure to act decisively and strongly enough after the attack is like trying to compare a peeping Tom with a serial killer.
Do you want to see Reagan’s shameful record in the next post?
Ooh,ooh, I do!
President Reagan’s record on terrorism:
4/18/83 – US embassy in Beirut carbombed by Hezbollah, killing 63 – Reagan does nothing.
10/23/83 – US Marine barracks in Beirut carbombed by the same Hezbollah group, killing 241 – Reagan does nothing.
12/12/83 – US embassy in Kuwait carbombed by Iraqi al-Dawa terrorists (the people now governing Iraq) killing 4 – Reagan does nothing, though the Kuwaitis caught and jailed 17 members of Iraq’s al-Dawa party.
9/20/84 – US embassy annex in Beirut carbombed by the same Hezbollah group, killing 12 – Reagan did nothing
6/13/85 Hezbollah hijacked TWA Flight 847, forcing it to fly to Beirut. One American Navy diver was murdered – Reagan did nothing.
4/2/86 – a bomb planted on TWA Flight 840 went off killing 4. US intelligence traced the bombing to a Palestinian terrorist close to Yassir Arafat and a Lebanese terrorist – Reagan did nothing.
4/5/86 – La Belle Disco in Berlin was bombed, killing 2 American soldiers and one woman. The US identified Libya as being behind it and Reagan finally retailiated (sort of), ordering the bombing of Tripoli that ended up killing Qadaffi’s infant daughter.
12/21/88 – Pan Am 103 was blown up over Lockerbie, Scotland, killing 270 people. Reagan was in the last two weeks of his Presidency, so this one goes to Bush. Despite evidence that, in addition to Libya, a Palestinian terrorist group, Syria, and Iran were involved, the Bush administration settled on pursuing two minor Libyan operatives, one of whom was finally convicted a few years ago.
During Reagan’s term, Hezbollah kidnapped some 30 Americans from the streets of Beirut and several were murdered. One, Terry Anderson, was held over 6 years. In an act of craven appeasement, Reagan ransomed 3 of the hostages by sending arms to Iran. After releasing the 3, Hezbollah continued to kidnap new victims, soon replacing them.
Prior to 9/11, Arab terrorists had murdered more Americans during Reagan’s administration than during all others combined. So, after terror attacks kill almost 600 people, Reagan/Bush’s results are a couple of terrorists in jail, sanctions against Libya, military arms secretly traded to Iran (the people behind Hezbollah’s atrocities and probably Pan Am 103), and a dead baby.
Marvelous…
Oh Chimera, I believe I’m in love. But then again it might depend on what you are a chimera of – love your comments nonetheless.
Unless I’m mistaken, the Cole and Riyadh bombings were not only outside of the country (technically not “national security”) but they were military targets, which are presumed to have some sort of defenses, unlike civilian “soft” targets. Even the embassies that were bombed in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 were government targets under the protection of the military.
Fun Notes
A reader reviews Reagan’s war on terrorism.
To pile on Reagan’s record:
May 17, 1987 Iraqi Mirage F-1 fighter jet fires 2 Exocet missiles at the USS Stark, killing 37 sailors. US accepts Saddam “not Evil yet” Hussein’s explanation that this was an accident and does not conduct an independent investigation.
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This is one of the stupidest Website ever. It is not the Republicans fault for the bombing on 9/11. Here is a conspiracy or two for you: military jets were alerted when the flights went off course and were headed towards restricted airspace. These stealth jets waited until the last possible moment to fire the remote controlled missiles at the jets headed towards the World Trade Towers to give the terrorists up until the last moment to pull back and spare the lives of the many passengers aboard. When there became not enough time to spare the lives of the passengers, the missiles were fired, blowing up the first plane just too late – it was within mere inches of the building.
The second plane was missed and the missile barely missed the plane and hit the building. This is backed by several news videos taken from several angles. Another jet had problems releasing its missiles. It was able to take out one of the airplanes wings with one missile; however, because the jet was flying faster than the plane and had to be so close in order to use the malfunctioning rocket, when the plane barreled out of control, the remaining wing exploded against the jet, causing the fighter pilot to crash into the wall of the Pentagon right next to the plane that also crashed into the Pentagon.
George W. was alerted that the attempt to avoid the terrorist action was unsuccessful. This is another wacky story – I bet you ate it up though didn’t you. Here is truth: it is estimated that the monetary and economical damages incurred on 9/11 or as a direct result of it exceeded more than all the Iraqi war costs incurred by the US to date. The number of American lives lost since the war began just barely surpassed (a year ago) the number of innocent civilian lives lost because of 9/11. It cost the terrorists less than .5 million dollars and less than 20 lives to inflict that enormous amount of damage.
The strategy is not to find the terrorists and kill them. The idea is to have their own people to find them and kill them so that their deaths don’t go down in history as martyrdoms but as acts of justice on criminal.
On just a side note, OPEC has been voting and considering changing their transaction currency from the dollar to the euro. Think of how upset all the countries in the world that transact with OPEC would be. Think of how peeved they would be when they found out they couldn’t buy their oil with all their hard-earned and saved dollars. What would happen if everyone tried to get the US to give them euros for their would-be completely worthless dollars.
In addition to having our currency so closely tied to oil and OPEC (kind of like being on the gold standard – except with oil), we are also largely responsible for the economic stability of other countries as well. In plain Democrat english, if we leave Iraq and our interests in the Middle East, you will see a depression in the US more severe than anything the US has ever seen. Other countries that typically rely on the US economy for their own economic stability would also see a great depression. Think of all the lives around the world that would be endangered if we left Iraq and Afghanistan. This is one of the biggest strategies of the organized militant Muslims.
Which Democrat Presidential nominee understands this and is willing to keep those parts of the Middle East secure? Both Hilary and Obama want to pull out of the Middle East.
Iraq and Kuwait combined (owned by the Jihad) would be enough to shift the needed votes over to the euro.