Comments on: Rumblings From Team Obama http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/20/rumblings-from-team-obama/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:42:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/20/rumblings-from-team-obama/#comment-40593 duros62 Mon, 24 Jul 2006 22:07:34 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2418#comment-40593 ...Like CV ever really matters to voters. It's still a popularity contest when you get right down to it. …Like CV ever really matters to voters. It’s still a popularity contest when you get right down to it.

]]> By: drpedro http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/20/rumblings-from-team-obama/#comment-40592 drpedro Mon, 24 Jul 2006 14:07:31 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2418#comment-40592 no McCain had the CV to be president. Obama doesn't no McCain had the CV to be president. Obama doesn’t

]]> By: buma http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/20/rumblings-from-team-obama/#comment-40591 buma Mon, 24 Jul 2006 13:07:54 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2418#comment-40591 drpedro Jul 22nd, 2006 at 3:37 pm no duros, you RUN for president, and aquire enough delegates that you become the natural vp for the annointed candidate. Since you don t plan on winning the nomination, you drop out when things look ugly& .>> Sort of like McCain in 2000. So we didn't realize at the time he was running for VP? drpedro
Jul 22nd, 2006 at 3:37 pm
no duros, you RUN for president, and aquire enough delegates that you become the natural vp for the annointed candidate. Since you don t plan on winning the nomination, you drop out when things look ugly& .>>

Sort of like McCain in 2000. So we didn’t realize at the time he was running for VP?

]]> By: drpedro http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/20/rumblings-from-team-obama/#comment-40590 drpedro Sat, 22 Jul 2006 20:07:20 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2418#comment-40590 no duros, you RUN for president, and aquire enough delegates that you become the natural vp for the annointed candidate. Since you don't plan on winning the nomination, you drop out when things look ugly.... no duros, you RUN for president, and aquire enough delegates that you become the natural vp for the annointed candidate. Since you don’t plan on winning the nomination, you drop out when things look ugly….

]]> By: duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/20/rumblings-from-team-obama/#comment-40589 duros62 Sat, 22 Jul 2006 17:07:36 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2418#comment-40589 Not disagreeing. But you can't <b>run</b> for Vice-President. Not disagreeing. But you can’t run for Vice-President.

]]> By: midderpidge http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/20/rumblings-from-team-obama/#comment-40588 midderpidge Sat, 22 Jul 2006 16:07:25 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2418#comment-40588 I agree with DrPedro. Vice President or a run for governor should be his next step. I agree with DrPedro. Vice President or a run for governor should be his next step.

]]> By: drpedro http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/20/rumblings-from-team-obama/#comment-40587 drpedro Fri, 21 Jul 2006 23:07:44 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2418#comment-40587 Yea, thats the problem....but to be honest, i am not sure who I like for the republican ticket either. But here is the scenario. Obama runs in the early races, gets a bit of a following that he can drag to the other candidate. When his campaign bogs down because of the lack of experience, he graciously bows out and then gets picked up at the convention where he exorts his followers to tag along to whomever the democratic pick is. Interesting scenario....could make it tough for republicans... Yea, thats the problem….but to be honest, i am not sure who I like for the republican ticket either.

But here is the scenario.

Obama runs in the early races, gets a bit of a following that he can drag to the other candidate. When his campaign bogs down because of the lack of experience, he graciously bows out and then gets picked up at the convention where he exorts his followers to tag along to whomever the democratic pick is.

Interesting scenario….could make it tough for republicans…

]]> By: buma http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/20/rumblings-from-team-obama/#comment-40586 buma Fri, 21 Jul 2006 23:07:43 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2418#comment-40586 The post that keeps on giving: "I know Obama seems appealing as the Great Democratic Hope, but can we at least step back and recognize that his biggest claim to fame so far is beating Alan Keyes? Democrats should aim higher." The GOP even went out of state to get Keyes. Is it the strategy for every dumb move by the Republicans to be simply turned round into some Democratic weakness? After your first GOP candidate proves to be not viable, you run a loser (Keyes) in a cynical attempt to appeal to black voters. If your ploy fails by 60 percentatge points you can then say all the Democratic guy did was beat this hypocritical loser. Good for a laugh I guess. The post that keeps on giving:
“I know Obama seems appealing as the Great Democratic Hope, but can we at least step back and recognize that his biggest claim to fame so far is beating Alan Keyes? Democrats should aim higher.”

The GOP even went out of state to get Keyes. Is it the strategy for every dumb move by the Republicans to be simply turned round into some Democratic weakness? After your first GOP candidate proves to be not viable, you run a loser (Keyes) in a cynical attempt to appeal to black voters. If your ploy fails by 60 percentatge points you can then say all the Democratic guy did was beat this hypocritical loser. Good for a laugh I guess.

]]> By: duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/20/rumblings-from-team-obama/#comment-40585 duros62 Fri, 21 Jul 2006 22:07:29 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2418#comment-40585 <i>"but I ve heard the guy speak. He s dynamic as hell, young, energetic, and good-looking. Bill Clinton without the Gov Resume? "</i> Charisma goes a long way in presidential politics. I.e., Clinton, JFK, Reagan, more so than actual politics, I'd say. <i>"put obama on as the VEEP& "</i> With whom would you suggest, Pedro? (please don't say Hilary). “but I ve heard the guy speak. He s dynamic as hell, young, energetic, and good-looking.
Bill Clinton without the Gov Resume? “
Charisma goes a long way in presidential politics. I.e., Clinton, JFK, Reagan, more so than actual politics, I’d say.

“put obama on as the VEEP& “

With whom would you suggest, Pedro? (please don’t say Hilary).

]]> By: drpedro http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/20/rumblings-from-team-obama/#comment-40584 drpedro Fri, 21 Jul 2006 19:07:53 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2418#comment-40584 put obama on as the VEEP.....then he gains the experience and americans can tell if he has what it takes for leadership, and his short resume doesn't matter as much, and may even help him. put obama on as the VEEP…..then he gains the experience and americans can tell if he has what it takes for leadership, and his short resume doesn’t matter as much, and may even help him.

]]> By: JK http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/20/rumblings-from-team-obama/#comment-40583 JK Fri, 21 Jul 2006 18:07:53 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2418#comment-40583 >>Wonder if Tail Gun Tommy has any shrapnel wounds from all those Vietnam fighter missions. Dugger...you're just a lousy person. Debate closed. Farris...I know what you're saying....Obama's resume is short. It's a problem...but I've heard the guy speak. He's dynamic as hell, young, energetic, and good-looking. Bill Clinton without the Gov Resume? JK >>Wonder if Tail Gun Tommy has any shrapnel wounds from all those Vietnam fighter missions.

Dugger…you’re just a lousy person. Debate closed.

Farris…I know what you’re saying….Obama’s resume is short. It’s a problem…but I’ve heard the guy speak. He’s dynamic as hell, young, energetic, and good-looking.

Bill Clinton without the Gov Resume?

JK

]]> By: SaveFarris http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/20/rumblings-from-team-obama/#comment-40582 SaveFarris Fri, 21 Jul 2006 18:07:46 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2418#comment-40582 I know Obama seems appealing as the Great Democratic Hope, but can we at least step back and recognize that his biggest claim to fame so far is beating Alan Keyes? Democrats should aim higher. I know Obama seems appealing as the Great Democratic Hope, but can we at least step back and recognize that his biggest claim to fame so far is beating Alan Keyes? Democrats should aim higher.

]]> By: Marty http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/20/rumblings-from-team-obama/#comment-40581 Marty Fri, 21 Jul 2006 18:07:40 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2418#comment-40581 JSA- I absolutely have the same respect for Obama as you describe in spite of the fact that I don't agree a lot with him politically. But he cetainly one of the more sensible and sincere Democrats when it comes to interviews and speeches. He would need to have a few more accomplishments under his belt to become President. It would be very interesting to see how the race baiting would play out with an Obama campaign. My guess is that he and his campaign would remain well above that frey as he always has, but there would be TONS of peripheral groups stirring the pot with 2X4s. JSA- I absolutely have the same respect for Obama as you describe in spite of the fact that I don’t agree a lot with him politically. But he cetainly one of the more sensible and sincere Democrats when it comes to interviews and speeches.

He would need to have a few more accomplishments under his belt to become President. It would be very interesting to see how the race baiting would play out with an Obama campaign. My guess is that he and his campaign would remain well above that frey as he always has, but there would be TONS of peripheral groups stirring the pot with 2X4s.

]]> By: JSA http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/20/rumblings-from-team-obama/#comment-40580 JSA Fri, 21 Jul 2006 18:07:39 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2418#comment-40580 Maybe Republicans should. I'm not familiar with Illinois politics. Is their anyone who could mount a serious challenge to him? Maybe Republicans should. I’m not familiar with Illinois politics. Is their anyone who could mount a serious challenge to him?

]]> By: Rheinhard http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/20/rumblings-from-team-obama/#comment-40579 Rheinhard Fri, 21 Jul 2006 18:07:38 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2418#comment-40579 Marty - Re: Clinton stumping for Rape Gurney Joe: (though it's totally off topic for this post) I think it shows what a class act Clinton is. Here he is, willing to forgive the principal member of his own party that stabbed him in the back during the impeachment coup. Would Bush do the same? But Clinton also takes the important position of indicating that he will support the winner of the Dem. primary. In this sense I look forward to Bill campaigning for Lamont after August. Marty – Re: Clinton stumping for Rape Gurney Joe: (though it’s totally off topic for this post)

I think it shows what a class act Clinton is. Here he is, willing to forgive the principal member of his own party that stabbed him in the back during the impeachment coup. Would Bush do the same? But Clinton also takes the important position of indicating that he will support the winner of the Dem. primary. In this sense I look forward to Bill campaigning for Lamont after August.

]]> By: JSA http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/20/rumblings-from-team-obama/#comment-40578 JSA Fri, 21 Jul 2006 18:07:08 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2418#comment-40578 Marty- that's an interesting question. Maybe we'll never be completely beyond race, but things are light years better than they use to be. I know politics isn't golf, but look how admired and respected Tiger Woods is. Or Condi Rice and General Powell for more relevant examples. Marty- that’s an interesting question. Maybe we’ll never be completely beyond race, but things are light years better than they use to be. I know politics isn’t golf, but look how admired and respected Tiger Woods is. Or Condi Rice and General Powell for more relevant examples.

]]> By: JSA http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/20/rumblings-from-team-obama/#comment-40577 JSA Fri, 21 Jul 2006 18:07:05 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2418#comment-40577 Is there (not their) anyone? As I said above, I'd like to see him get more experience, too. But barring something really drastic, is there any doubt he'd be re-elected to the Senate handily? A landslide victory in a populous state against whoever would be hard to ignore. Is there (not their) anyone? As I said above, I’d like to see him get more experience, too. But barring something really drastic, is there any doubt he’d be re-elected to the Senate handily? A landslide victory in a populous state against whoever would be hard to ignore.

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/20/rumblings-from-team-obama/#comment-40576 Oliver Willis Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:07:42 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2418#comment-40576 More of a war hero than the I Cant Remember Where I Was years of Bush. More of a war hero than the I Cant Remember Where I Was years of Bush.

]]> By: Marty http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/20/rumblings-from-team-obama/#comment-40575 Marty Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:07:34 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2418#comment-40575 Oh come now Oliver. At least the President knew what country he was in. And what about your hero (who is now going to campaign for Joe Lieberman)? Oh come now Oliver. At least the President knew what country he was in. And what about your hero (who is now going to campaign for Joe Lieberman)?

]]> By: JSA http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/20/rumblings-from-team-obama/#comment-40574 JSA Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:07:23 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2418#comment-40574 I would like to see him gain some more experience, and historically candidates running directly from the Senate don't fair well. But one thing I've noticed in conversations with my conservative friends is that he is the one Democrat who has their respect. According to them, he is sincere and isn't just out for himself. I would like to see him gain some more experience, and historically candidates running directly from the Senate don’t fair well. But one thing I’ve noticed in conversations with my conservative friends is that he is the one Democrat who has their respect. According to them, he is sincere and isn’t just out for himself.

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