Comments on: The Cons & “Balance” http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/13/the-cons-balance/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:17:23 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Dugger http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/13/the-cons-balance/#comment-39940 Dugger Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:07:54 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2364#comment-39940 As always, the greatest hindrance to understanding the question of media bias is in the relative perceptions of the right and left about what is right and left. Thats why I say we'll never agree about bias. In my book, Andy Sullivan used to be a very moderate conservative, now he's a moderate liberal. You take your half, and we'll take our half; and lets not argue about content. Say what you want to say. Report what you want to report. Give the middle to Brian Lamb. Dugger As always, the greatest hindrance to understanding the question of media bias is in the relative perceptions of the right and left about what is right and left.

Thats why I say we’ll never agree about bias. In my book, Andy Sullivan used to be a very moderate conservative, now he’s a moderate liberal.

You take your half, and we’ll take our half; and lets not argue about content. Say what you want to say. Report what you want to report. Give the middle to Brian Lamb.

Dugger

]]> By: BD http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/13/the-cons-balance/#comment-39939 BD Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:07:47 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2364#comment-39939 Jay C - But does one have to echo the viewpoints of Bush to be a conservative? Jay C -

But does one have to echo the viewpoints of Bush to be a conservative?

]]> By: frameone http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/13/the-cons-balance/#comment-39938 frameone Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:07:21 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2364#comment-39938 You know what? I'm sorry. That was out of line. I meant "even <i>fewer</i> right wing pundits." You know what? I’m sorry. That was out of line. I meant “even fewer right wing pundits.”

]]> By: Jay C http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/13/the-cons-balance/#comment-39937 Jay C Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:07:09 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2364#comment-39937 Oh please. Joe Klein and Andrew Sullivan are not conservatives. One doesn't have to echo the viewpoints of Nancy Pelosi to be a liberal. As for Domenech, the WaPo apparently had no idea about his plagiarism. You make it sound as if they knew and hired him anyway. They should have checked his work, but then if Stephen Glass could make up 27 stories he wrote for TNR either in part or entirely, it's not difficult to see how the WaPo didn't pick up on some pieces Domenech wrote in college. And stop it with the racist nonsense. That's a chickenshit move designed simply to shut down debate and it's not true at all. Oh please. Joe Klein and Andrew Sullivan are not conservatives. One doesn’t have to echo the viewpoints of Nancy Pelosi to be a liberal.

As for Domenech, the WaPo apparently had no idea about his plagiarism. You make it sound as if they knew and hired him anyway. They should have checked his work, but then if Stephen Glass could make up 27 stories he wrote for TNR either in part or entirely, it’s not difficult to see how the WaPo didn’t pick up on some pieces Domenech wrote in college.

And stop it with the racist nonsense. That’s a chickenshit move designed simply to shut down debate and it’s not true at all.

]]> By: frameone http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/13/the-cons-balance/#comment-39936 frameone Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:07:02 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2364#comment-39936 Why don't we just demand that these publications only hire columnists who tell the truth? Oh right, because then there'd be even less right wing pundits. Why don’t we just demand that these publications only hire columnists who tell the truth? Oh right, because then there’d be even less right wing pundits.

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/13/the-cons-balance/#comment-39935 Oliver Willis Fri, 14 Jul 2006 16:07:31 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2364#comment-39935 Time already has more than enough conservatives on board, as I showed above. It's Marshall versus at least two movement cons, plus a "liberal" like Klein who... hates liberals. And don't you feel its a bit pathetic that the con blogger the Post hired was a serial plagiarist and apparent racist? Time already has more than enough conservatives on board, as I showed above. It’s Marshall versus at least two movement cons, plus a “liberal” like Klein who… hates liberals. And don’t you feel its a bit pathetic that the con blogger the Post hired was a serial plagiarist and apparent racist?

]]> By: Jay C http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/13/the-cons-balance/#comment-39934 Jay C Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:07:59 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2364#comment-39934 Who said anything about the "liberal media?" Allah is 100% correct. You guys threw a hissy fit of epic proportions when Ben Domenech was hired by the Washington Post. Now, a big time liberal gets hired by Time (something you claim doesn't happen) and somebody wants to know, like you guys did, when Time is going to hire a conservative blogger to balance it out. And please. Enough with the Andrew Sullivan 5th column nonsense. He's been on an anti-Bush jihad for almost 2 years now and endorsed John Kerry in 2004. Who said anything about the “liberal media?” Allah is 100% correct. You guys threw a hissy fit of epic proportions when Ben Domenech was hired by the Washington Post. Now, a big time liberal gets hired by Time (something you claim doesn’t happen) and somebody wants to know, like you guys did, when Time is going to hire a conservative blogger to balance it out.

And please. Enough with the Andrew Sullivan 5th column nonsense. He’s been on an anti-Bush jihad for almost 2 years now and endorsed John Kerry in 2004.

]]> By: Dugger http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/13/the-cons-balance/#comment-39933 Dugger Fri, 14 Jul 2006 14:07:32 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2364#comment-39933 Well actiually Malkin seems to be complaining about a lefty tilt at Time (bloggers). I agree. If the now unconservative Andy Sullivan is your righty, you're left (think of us using Zell Miller as our liberal - buying that piece of pudding?). Time is of course perfectly free to hire whomever it wants and then claim its balanced - and we are free to dispute that. Dugger, A Conservative for whom Andrew Sullivan does not speak Well actiually Malkin seems to be complaining about a lefty tilt at Time (bloggers). I agree. If the now unconservative Andy Sullivan is your righty, you’re left (think of us using Zell Miller as our liberal – buying that piece of pudding?).

Time is of course perfectly free to hire whomever it wants and then claim its balanced – and we are free to dispute that.

Dugger, A Conservative for whom Andrew Sullivan does not speak

]]> By: JWG http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/13/the-cons-balance/#comment-39932 JWG Fri, 14 Jul 2006 11:07:39 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2364#comment-39932 <blockquote>an honest liberal like Josh Marshall</blockquote> Is he one of the "truth bloggers" that you say don't exist?

an honest liberal like Josh Marshall

Is he one of the “truth bloggers” that you say don’t exist?

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/13/the-cons-balance/#comment-39931 Oliver Willis Fri, 14 Jul 2006 04:07:30 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2364#comment-39931 Cox stands wherever the spotlight is, willing to trash anyone for a laugh. Klein finds the left odious and Bush awesome. Sullivan thinks we're third columnists. Yes, where they stand is clear. Cox stands wherever the spotlight is, willing to trash anyone for a laugh.

Klein finds the left odious and Bush awesome.

Sullivan thinks we’re third columnists.

Yes, where they stand is clear.

]]> By: mr.curmudgeon http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/13/the-cons-balance/#comment-39930 mr.curmudgeon Fri, 14 Jul 2006 03:07:23 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2364#comment-39930 Someone should stuff Malkin down Ann Coulter's throat, so they can choke on each other. Worthless human beings. Both of them. Someone should stuff Malkin down Ann Coulter’s throat, so they can choke on each other.

Worthless human beings. Both of them.

]]> By: SaveFarris http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/13/the-cons-balance/#comment-39929 SaveFarris Fri, 14 Jul 2006 03:07:01 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2364#comment-39929 It's also clear where Anna Marie Cox, Andrew Sullivan, and Joe Klien stand. Didn't stop you from describing as something they're not. It’s also clear where Anna Marie Cox, Andrew Sullivan, and Joe Klien stand. Didn’t stop you from describing as something they’re not.

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/13/the-cons-balance/#comment-39928 Oliver Willis Fri, 14 Jul 2006 02:07:27 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2364#comment-39928 She's been "taking them to task" for not being insane enough. And when push comes to shove, its clear what team Malkin & Co. play for. She’s been “taking them to task” for not being insane enough. And when push comes to shove, its clear what team Malkin & Co. play for.

]]> By: SaveFarris http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/13/the-cons-balance/#comment-39927 SaveFarris Fri, 14 Jul 2006 02:07:11 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2364#comment-39927 I guess since Malkin has been <a href="http://michellemalkin.com/archives/005524.htm" rel="nofollow">taking Rove & Bush to task</a> for 5 years now, that makes her (using Oliver's logic) a full-fledged liberal! I guess since Malkin has been taking Rove & Bush to task for 5 years now, that makes her (using Oliver’s logic) a full-fledged liberal!

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