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	<title>Comments on: The Return Of Faith Based Missile Defense</title>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/11/the-return-of-faith-based-missile-defense/#comment-39609</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 02:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where does hypocricy enter into the ABM issue?

And, if I only knew as little as you appear to know, I wouldn&#039;t be ragging on anybody else.

Look up

hyperbole

bull

shit
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where does hypocricy enter into the ABM issue?</p>
<p>And, if I only knew as little as you appear to know, I wouldn&#8217;t be ragging on anybody else.</p>
<p>Look up</p>
<p>hyperbole</p>
<p>bull</p>
<p>shit</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/11/the-return-of-faith-based-missile-defense/#comment-39608</link>
		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 21:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That s why we keep developing new technology.&quot;

DUH! I&#039;msimply pointing out pedro faith that we will overcome all difficulties in missile defense with time, money and brains while he flatly rejects that the same is possible for alternative energy technologies, Indeed, he seems unable to accept that we already have working alternative energy options that are improving at a steady pace: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www1.eere.energy.gov/solar/about.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www1.eere.energy.gov/solar/about.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www1.eere.energy.gov/solar/about.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That s why we keep developing new technology.&#8221;</p>
<p>DUH! I&#8217;msimply pointing out pedro faith that we will overcome all difficulties in missile defense with time, money and brains while he flatly rejects that the same is possible for alternative energy technologies, Indeed, he seems unable to accept that we already have working alternative energy options that are improving at a steady pace: <a href="http://www1.eere.energy.gov/solar/about.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www1.eere.energy.gov/solar/about.html" rel="nofollow">http://www1.eere.energy.gov/solar/about.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/11/the-return-of-faith-based-missile-defense/#comment-39607</link>
		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 21:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Zython: Even you don t know what you just said.&lt;/i&gt;

It may suprise you to learn this, but not everyone is as stupid as you. When you grow up, you&#039;ll understand that.

What I&#039;m saying is that its a bit hypocritical for the cons to rally behind &quot;security&quot; to the point of infringing on the civil liberties of law-abiding U.S. citizens, but when it comes to whether a multi-billion dollar missile defense system actually works or not, they&#039;re willing to settle for less.

Words that you may need to look up in the dictionary are:

hypocritical, infringing, civil liberties, security, U.S.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Zython: Even you don t know what you just said.</i></p>
<p>It may suprise you to learn this, but not everyone is as stupid as you. When you grow up, you&#8217;ll understand that.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m saying is that its a bit hypocritical for the cons to rally behind &#8220;security&#8221; to the point of infringing on the civil liberties of law-abiding U.S. citizens, but when it comes to whether a multi-billion dollar missile defense system actually works or not, they&#8217;re willing to settle for less.</p>
<p>Words that you may need to look up in the dictionary are:</p>
<p>hypocritical, infringing, civil liberties, security, U.S.</p>
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		<title>By: scratch</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/11/the-return-of-faith-based-missile-defense/#comment-39606</link>
		<dc:creator>scratch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m struggling to understand how today&#039;s successful test is either irrelevant or--fingers crossed--bad news.  Somebody help me out here.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m struggling to understand how today&#8217;s successful test is either irrelevant or&#8211;fingers crossed&#8211;bad news.  Somebody help me out here.</p>
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		<title>By: scratch</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/11/the-return-of-faith-based-missile-defense/#comment-39605</link>
		<dc:creator>scratch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frame...

- It&#039;s interesting how you pit the &lt;i&gt;current&lt;/i&gt; system against &lt;i&gt;future&lt;/i&gt; targets.

- Virtually every weapon or defensive system invented to date has had a countermeasure developed against it.  That&#039;s why we &lt;i&gt;keep developing new technology.&lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frame&#8230;</p>
<p>- It&#8217;s interesting how you pit the <i>current</i> system against <i>future</i> targets.</p>
<p>- Virtually every weapon or defensive system invented to date has had a countermeasure developed against it.  That&#8217;s why we <i>keep developing new technology.</i></p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/11/the-return-of-faith-based-missile-defense/#comment-39604</link>
		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 17:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;White Sands missile test phenomenal&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lcsun-news.com/news/ci_4044160&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lcsun-news.com/news/ci_4044160&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.lcsun-news.com/news/ci_4044160&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;White Sands missile test phenomenal&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lcsun-news.com/news/ci_4044160" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.lcsun-news.com/news/ci_4044160" rel="nofollow">http://www.lcsun-news.com/news/ci_4044160</a></p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/11/the-return-of-faith-based-missile-defense/#comment-39603</link>
		<dc:creator>drpedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 04:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry to see you fell off the idiot wagon so quickly paul.

But you got me dead to rights.  I should have said workable alternative energy solutions...

Guilty as charged.

But, my now corrected point remains.....correct.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry to see you fell off the idiot wagon so quickly paul.</p>
<p>But you got me dead to rights.  I should have said workable alternative energy solutions&#8230;</p>
<p>Guilty as charged.</p>
<p>But, my now corrected point remains&#8230;..correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/11/the-return-of-faith-based-missile-defense/#comment-39602</link>
		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 02:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait a second, let me get this straight. Conservatives believe that warrentless wiretappping and numerous other illegal government projects that infringe on our civil liberties are important for keeping us safe, but a functional missile defense system is unnecessary. I guess you guys believe that a U.S. government project doesn&#039;t keep us safe unless someone gets unnecesarily hurt in the process.

Basically, I believe that when talking about a multi-billion (trillion?) dollar missile defense system, we should not have to settle for less.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a second, let me get this straight. Conservatives believe that warrentless wiretappping and numerous other illegal government projects that infringe on our civil liberties are important for keeping us safe, but a functional missile defense system is unnecessary. I guess you guys believe that a U.S. government project doesn&#8217;t keep us safe unless someone gets unnecesarily hurt in the process.</p>
<p>Basically, I believe that when talking about a multi-billion (trillion?) dollar missile defense system, we should not have to settle for less.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/11/the-return-of-faith-based-missile-defense/#comment-39601</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 02:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zython: Even &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; don&#039;t know what you just said.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zython: Even <i>you</i> don&#8217;t know what you just said.</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/11/the-return-of-faith-based-missile-defense/#comment-39600</link>
		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 02:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;yes, for the reasons that I have explained previously ( and explained, and explained and explained&amp; .)&quot;

Hey idiot, you said that &quot;alternative energy solutions are waiting to be described.&quot; I listed five that aren&#039;t only &quot;described,&quot; they actually work. They may not work on as large scale as needed, yet, but they&#039;re well beyond the theoretical stage.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;yes, for the reasons that I have explained previously ( and explained, and explained and explained&#038; .)&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey idiot, you said that &#8220;alternative energy solutions are waiting to be described.&#8221; I listed five that aren&#8217;t only &#8220;described,&#8221; they actually work. They may not work on as large scale as needed, yet, but they&#8217;re well beyond the theoretical stage.</p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/11/the-return-of-faith-based-missile-defense/#comment-39599</link>
		<dc:creator>drpedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 01:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly Drone....

There are fundamental physics problems in eeking more efficiency from solar power, etc.

Now, if you are suggesting we take half the SDI money and build Nukes...well, hell, I am all for that.  A couple more nuke power plants would be quite welcome right about now...oh and while we are at it, how about a couple of more oil refineries?  Wait, you say we tried that and the tree-hugger leftists refused to let it get passed the panoply of government regulation set up to prevent them?

Q&#039;elle suprise....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly Drone&#8230;.</p>
<p>There are fundamental physics problems in eeking more efficiency from solar power, etc.</p>
<p>Now, if you are suggesting we take half the SDI money and build Nukes&#8230;well, hell, I am all for that.  A couple more nuke power plants would be quite welcome right about now&#8230;oh and while we are at it, how about a couple of more oil refineries?  Wait, you say we tried that and the tree-hugger leftists refused to let it get passed the panoply of government regulation set up to prevent them?</p>
<p>Q&#8217;elle suprise&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/11/the-return-of-faith-based-missile-defense/#comment-39598</link>
		<dc:creator>drpedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 01:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, for the reasons that I have explained previously ( and explained, and explained and explained....)

But good for you paul, you didn&#039;t call ANYONE an idiot in one of your posts!

Thanks buddy.....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, for the reasons that I have explained previously ( and explained, and explained and explained&#8230;.)</p>
<p>But good for you paul, you didn&#8217;t call ANYONE an idiot in one of your posts!</p>
<p>Thanks buddy&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/11/the-return-of-faith-based-missile-defense/#comment-39597</link>
		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 01:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Exactly Drone&amp; &quot;

And yet, pedro, you&#039;re on record as being opposed to a &quot;Manhattan-style project for alternative energy. See the quote above.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Exactly Drone&#038; &#8221;</p>
<p>And yet, pedro, you&#8217;re on record as being opposed to a &#8220;Manhattan-style project for alternative energy. See the quote above.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/11/the-return-of-faith-based-missile-defense/#comment-39596</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 00:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently, for the Democratics, the best defense is no offense, or defense...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, for the Democratics, the best defense is no offense, or defense&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dugger</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/11/the-return-of-faith-based-missile-defense/#comment-39595</link>
		<dc:creator>Dugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 23:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Midder said

&quot;Apparently you guys missed the GAO report that said Bush ordered a bunch of development and testing stages be rushed or skipped to hastily deploy a working system.&quot;

I missed it too - as you stated it.

Again, please, let Democrats try and run on &quot;get rid of missile defense&quot; platform.

Please. (Four more years to appoint conservative judges!)

Dugger
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Midder said</p>
<p>&#8220;Apparently you guys missed the GAO report that said Bush ordered a bunch of development and testing stages be rushed or skipped to hastily deploy a working system.&#8221;</p>
<p>I missed it too &#8211; as you stated it.</p>
<p>Again, please, let Democrats try and run on &#8220;get rid of missile defense&#8221; platform.</p>
<p>Please. (Four more years to appoint conservative judges!)</p>
<p>Dugger</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/11/the-return-of-faith-based-missile-defense/#comment-39594</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 22:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meister Doctor Professor Alex said it won&#039;t work, and that&#039;s that.

He oughta know because he&#039;s a... a... a....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meister Doctor Professor Alex said it won&#8217;t work, and that&#8217;s that.</p>
<p>He oughta know because he&#8217;s a&#8230; a&#8230; a&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: midderpidge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/11/the-return-of-faith-based-missile-defense/#comment-39593</link>
		<dc:creator>midderpidge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 21:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently you guys missed the GAO report that said Bush ordered a bunch of development and testing stages be rushed or skipped to hastily deploy a working system.  Of course it only works on paper, the actual system is useless and now a huge waste of taxpayer dollars becuase of said shortcuts.  Clap louder guys.

I mean really, if you truly thought missile defense was a necessary expense, could you at least ask for a system that works instead of a bunch of crap taped together and painted to look shiny?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently you guys missed the GAO report that said Bush ordered a bunch of development and testing stages be rushed or skipped to hastily deploy a working system.  Of course it only works on paper, the actual system is useless and now a huge waste of taxpayer dollars becuase of said shortcuts.  Clap louder guys.</p>
<p>I mean really, if you truly thought missile defense was a necessary expense, could you at least ask for a system that works instead of a bunch of crap taped together and painted to look shiny?</p>
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		<title>By: VRWC drone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/11/the-return-of-faith-based-missile-defense/#comment-39592</link>
		<dc:creator>VRWC drone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 21:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Solar power, wind power, nuclear power ethanol and hydrogen fuel cell technologies are all there, right now, working. Improvements are needed, of course. And yet you attack the  luddites  who assail missile defense as unworkable while attacking supporters of very real and workable alternative energy technologies as science fiction fanatics.&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, those technologies are available now, but from an engineering standpoint, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.windsofchange.net/archives/008761.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;none of them is likely to replace oil in the foreseeable future&lt;/a&gt; (although the drawbacks to nuclear power are more political than anything else).

Should we continue to fund development of these (and other) technologies? Absolutely.  This should be our top priority, along the lines of another &quot;Manhattan Project&quot;.

Should we continue to develop and perfect an ABM system?  Yes.  Even if the system can only handle a small number of missiles at a time, it&#039;s still valuable.  As noted above, it acts as a deterrent.  It introduces uncertainty into an enemy&#039;s plans (i.e. if he lobs a half dozen missiles, which one(s) won&#039;t get through?).  And since the current (and likely near future) threat is from a small number of NK or Iranian missiles (as opposed to the 3000  missile threat of the cold war), having an operational ABM system it is far more realistic.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Solar power, wind power, nuclear power ethanol and hydrogen fuel cell technologies are all there, right now, working. Improvements are needed, of course. And yet you attack the  luddites  who assail missile defense as unworkable while attacking supporters of very real and workable alternative energy technologies as science fiction fanatics.</i></p>
<p>Yes, those technologies are available now, but from an engineering standpoint, <a href="http://www.windsofchange.net/archives/008761.php" rel="nofollow">none of them is likely to replace oil in the foreseeable future</a> (although the drawbacks to nuclear power are more political than anything else).</p>
<p>Should we continue to fund development of these (and other) technologies? Absolutely.  This should be our top priority, along the lines of another &#8220;Manhattan Project&#8221;.</p>
<p>Should we continue to develop and perfect an ABM system?  Yes.  Even if the system can only handle a small number of missiles at a time, it&#8217;s still valuable.  As noted above, it acts as a deterrent.  It introduces uncertainty into an enemy&#8217;s plans (i.e. if he lobs a half dozen missiles, which one(s) won&#8217;t get through?).  And since the current (and likely near future) threat is from a small number of NK or Iranian missiles (as opposed to the 3000  missile threat of the cold war), having an operational ABM system it is far more realistic.</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
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		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry pedro, I totally forgot about your learning disability. I wasn&#039;t talking about warp drive. Is that better? Does it make sense now?

No? Let me help you out some more. I was talking about solar power, wind power, ethanol and other biofuels, hyrdroelectricity, hydrogen, nuclear power etc. etc. Are you trying to suggest that all of these alternatives exist in the strictly theoretical realm? Are you kidding me?

Solar power, wind power, nuclear power ethanol and hydrogen fuel cell technologies are all there, right now, working. Improvements are needed, of course. And yet you attack the &quot;luddites&quot; who assail missile defense as unworkable while attacking supporters of very real and workable alternative energy technologies as science fiction fanatics. You&#039;re a hypocrite pedro, face it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry pedro, I totally forgot about your learning disability. I wasn&#8217;t talking about warp drive. Is that better? Does it make sense now?</p>
<p>No? Let me help you out some more. I was talking about solar power, wind power, ethanol and other biofuels, hyrdroelectricity, hydrogen, nuclear power etc. etc. Are you trying to suggest that all of these alternatives exist in the strictly theoretical realm? Are you kidding me?</p>
<p>Solar power, wind power, nuclear power ethanol and hydrogen fuel cell technologies are all there, right now, working. Improvements are needed, of course. And yet you attack the &#8220;luddites&#8221; who assail missile defense as unworkable while attacking supporters of very real and workable alternative energy technologies as science fiction fanatics. You&#8217;re a hypocrite pedro, face it.</p>
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		<title>By: VRWC drone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/11/the-return-of-faith-based-missile-defense/#comment-39590</link>
		<dc:creator>VRWC drone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 19:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fixed the link:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_Cowbell&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MORE COWBELL&lt;/a&gt;!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fixed the link:  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_Cowbell" rel="nofollow">MORE COWBELL</a>!</p>
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