Do you mean we agree on who was attacked. Why? It wasn’t us? Who was it Andorra?

Do you mean we agree on who wants to fight back? We do? I don’t think so.

Explain, please.

Yes, Frank, but as usual, you would be wrong.

The reasons for their plight are many. For some, residual stress from daily insurgent attacks and roadside bombs makes it tough to adjust to civilian life; some can’t navigate government assistance programs; others simply can’t afford a house or apartment.

The exact same thing was true for Vietnam Vets, and Gulf War I vets.
That’s why the VAMC set up .

Why do liberals think they’re the only ones who care?

http://www1.va.gov/visns/visn03/homeless.asp

JK& Real life asshole.

Frank, you are one seriously passive aggressive motherf**ker. But hey, at least your sons think you’re slightly cool.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060704/ap_on_re_us/homeless_after_iraq

What can we do to support *these* troops?

I thought so.

JK

I like how Joe Biden did it (about Cheney):

“No, I don’t want to respond to him. He’s at 20 percent in the polls. No one listens to him. He has no credibility. It’s ridiculous.”

If frikken’ DLC Joe Biden can do this, any Dem can do this. And should. Dems also need to stop going on rw radio shows (I exempt Joe Liebermann, because he’s resigned as a Dem) and be bullies on the panel shows and talk over their opponents, if not outright infantilize them.

It’s not pretty, but it gets respect. Ask the Republican majority.

The problem is that Democrats need leadership.

Bill Clinton could take a punch, and hit back twice as hard, all the while staying on message.

Contrast ol’ Bubba, to Senator Lieberman, who will run as an independent if he loses the primary. That, in effect, will destroy any chance Democrats have on holding that seat.

Continue to get distracted by this minutia. Keep those hallways clear, Bushwacked.

JK

Nope. The main thing do was return to the original topic, especially since it exposed the so-called outrage of Michelle Malkin and her like for what it truly was – hot air.

I’m happy that the phony outrage has been exposed, but you see, people like Malkin, and the rest of the nutty mudslinging right don’t really care. Tomorrow, they’ll wake up and throw MORE mud (BS), to see if that might stick. Maybe it will, and maybe it won’t, but to them, it’s the cumulative effect of the caked on mud that matters. It distracts the opposition, and whips up the right-wing core into a frenzy (witness Frank).

You can’t make them go away, they’ll always be around. So, while you may feel all warm and fuzzy that this particular incident has apparently been nipped in the bud, Michelle Malkin will continue to make more money than you and I have ever dreamed of, by simply being angry. Anger sells.

From where I sit, that’s the larger story. How do liberals respond to the massive, angry, assault from the right(witness, Coulter’s “Godless” NYT best-selling book)? Should we be more angry? More outraged?

I’m not particularly moved by this story for the simple reason that this kind of stuff is single A politics in a major league game. It really is. The big prize in November won’t be won, or lost on this issue.

Honestly, do you think that Michelle Malkin will suffer any ill effect from all of this?

Hell no. She’ll be on Fox’s Hannity and Colmes in short time.

JK

Well, folks, there it is.

45 Million Kerry voters in 2006. Frank says that not one of them fully appreciates, and supports, what our troops are doing in Afghanistan and Iraq. How prepostourous is that? Not one, he says.

You confuse full support of the men and women of our Armed Forces, with “full support” of our President, and the leadership of this war.

There’s a whopping difference.

You see, lightweight, we actually wanted to give our troops a chance to win in Iraq from the outset, but it’s clear that our President has so severely botched the effort, that victory may not be possible. That is not just my opinion, but the opinion of more than a few high level military people who are a hell of a lot smarter on these things than I am.

You could have made your point, without offering up violence against a liberal American as a solution.

Do you realize how un-American that sounds? You should, particularly on this day.

JK

Hey, Dave, uh, so what you’re saying is that your SecDef is intimidated by some reporters writing travel info? Ummmm, ok.

Some of these bloggers are giving half-hearted apologies now, but I would bet that years from now they will be talking about the evil NY Times, who printed security details of the SecDef’s house!!!!

Apparently Michelle Malkin and Mr. Horowitz should have done a little more research before they started ranting. As was my original suspicion, these folks were making a mountain out of an anthill (this didn’t even meet the qualification of a molehill.). I know how conservatives dislike the evil Daily Kos, but you really should see this.
Here is a clue:

All along, Don Rumsfeld gave his express permission to the NYT for these photographs to be taken. How can anything other than complete scorn be heaped on Malkin, Hinderaker, Horowitz, Red State, and all of the uber-patriotic copycat accusers who spent the weekend spewing the most dangerous accusations possible based on completely false premises? Who would think that any of them have a shred of credibility after seeing how irresponsible and impervious to facts they are  even when knowingly catalyzing lynch mobs against people?

one would hardly think a difference existed.
You’re welcome to demonstrate it to me — seriously. Let’s hear about it. Let’s hear what liberals are doing to support the War on Terror, besides singing, “Bring the Boys Home.”

Fortunately, the  soldiers of the hard right are cowards for the most part
There’s a bipartisan outreach, if ever I saw one.

If anyone from the right REALLY believes that the left doesn t have the best intentions for this country, I really don t know that their opinion is worth my consideration.
I don’t know if point #1: If anyone from the right REALLY believes that the left doesn t have the best intentions for this country
is even connected to point #2:
I really don t know that their opinion is worth my consideration
but I offer you the same opportunity I offered JK: Demonstrate the left’s support for the troops’ efforts in the GWoT.
That shouldn’t be hard, if it’s that obvious.
I believe that right-wing ideology is dangerous for this country
Well, you know something? I don’t think that left-wing ideology is dangerous for this country. I just think it’s ill – conceived and wrong – headed. Interestingly, you describe the right wing as dangerous , but are surprised that come conservatives feel the same way about the left.
Funny peculiar, eh?

Maybe it’s time to rethink the whole thing, eh?
And don’t forget the homework assignment.

Fortunately, the “soldiers” of the hard right are cowards for the most part. Still, when I see unhinged rhetoric from the likes of some on this thread, well, let me just say they may be making some not so pleasant news at some point.

If anyone from the right REALLY believes that the left doesn’t have the best intentions for this country, I really don’t know that their opinion is worth my consideration.

I believe that right-wing ideology is dangerous for this country, but I have no doubt that most wingnuts “believe” that their way is the best for this country. I don’t think that they want to destroy America.

Does the other side feel the same way about us? Doubtful. It is, however, a reflection on them, not on us.

We’ve spent so much time and effort sparring over the “politics” of this war. What has me very concerned is the increasing, and persistent effort by the right, to draw an equivalence between the real enemy on the ground in Afghanistan and Iraq, and their historical political adversary, here at home: the American liberal. Reading some of verbage from people like Frank and Dugger, for example, one would hardly think a difference existed.

JK

Think Hitler was just a misunderstood paper hanger

I’m Jewish, you goddamned asshole. I know you were playing one of your stupid games, but that went too far. I hope you’re proud of yourself. Eat shit and die (not necessarily in that order).

Also, why would someone admire Stalin and Hitler? Their politics were complete opposites.