May be too late on this. out of town for a day.

Some positions are ‘extreme’ regardless of how the public polls on them. And I will gladly address your question if you can tell which CNN poll and when. But I would caution I can get you a polled majority on just about anything by how and when the question is phrased.
Nevertheless, if there is an unambiguous poll that indicates Americans favor cutting and running per a specified near term date (as opposed to a plan to withdraw when conditons are suitable), regardless of the military situation (which I highly doubt), I will say I’m wrong – which I have been before and will be again.

Dugger

I do regard  strategic redeployment as proposed by leading Democrats as surrender.

But it’s not a quagmire. No, no, no, no.

BTW, what national Democrats are advocating socialized medicine? And again, 65% of your fellow Americans support universal healthcare, even if it means increased tax. Who is extreme, really?

If what you’re saying is “it’s extreme because I say it’s extreme”, well, you’re going to have to do better than that. Something tells me you can’t.

Wait a minute. The charge here was that there was no debate on climate change – all man made. Do you deny the op ed debate piece was written by an MIT scientist – debating several points on global warming?
Or by ‘no debate’ do you mean that there is a consensus on the political left and thats all that counts?

The reason maybe there is no debate is that people don’t address people like the MIT scientist or Lomborg.

Another thing, why not insist your nominee suppport Kyoto.

factcheck,

Yes. I do regard ’strategic redeployment’ as proposed by leading Democrats as surrender. And if 99% of the American people said so in a CNN poll or a Fox poll, I’d still say it was surrender. So would most soldiers.

Socialized medicine.

Dugger

Dugger

Just so you are aware, according to a recent CNN poll, 53% of Americans want a pullout date set. Either they are all “extremists” or……maybe you are the one that is out of tune with mainstream thought.

Many national Republicans, like Walter “Freedom Fries” Jones, NC congressman, also advocate the “extremist” view that we should set a timetable for withdrawal.

Even if I were to concede your point, which I won’t, you only came up with one “extreme” view from national Democrats? That’s all you’ve got?

Gore has “eschewed a firm withdrawal date” but has managed to do so without challenging all those filthy hippie peacenik surrender-monkey extremists?

He’s a talented fellow.

the WSJ has a neat article by a MIT climate scientist saying there are a number of disputes about global warming

News article? Or op-ed?

You don’t have to be Karnak to know the answer…

Number one – stategic rededeployment (Newspeak for surrender)in Iraq.

And Quaker, Gore has challenged no one on the left on the Iraq issue. My point exactly. If its Iraq, the surrender extremists rule the day. Is Iraq not important enough for Gore to come out and take on the Yahoos straight up? And Gore is still a complete alarmist idiot on the environment. Which reminds me, that the WSJ has a neat article by a MIT climate scientist saying there are a number of disputes about global warming – man’s impact included, contrary to Gore’s extremist assertion and the close minded idiotic “there is no argument” assertion emanating from here earlier.

Dugger

How about ‘no’?

Dugger

Dugger at 2:07 – no one, except the ex-communicated, will come out and challenge the extreme rigid left orthodoxy on the war.

Haw! Which is it?

Nahh. The problem is that the debate is within a leftist political bubble- between the extreme left and, the now rightists, the plain old left. Think of the French Revolution and the Girondists and the Montagnards (HoDean holding up la cabeza de Hillary and the mob of Kossacks go wild – sorry). And the funny thing is that no one, except the ex-communicated, will come out and challenge the extreme rigid left orthodoxy on the war. The extreme left will be pandered to until the nomination is won and then like Kerry, the nominee, unless he/she is of the ilk of Kucinich or Dean, will start shedding those extreme positions that got him nominated.

IMO, Hillary is your only hope.

Dugger (That ought to finish her)

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Dugger

The way I see it, Hillary Clinton is not going to run. She can see the writing on the wall this early with her getting booed left and right by her own base.