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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/01/superman-returns/#comment-38583</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 16:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone else can buy.
You&#039;re too young; you&#039;ll have to find an adult.
&lt;i&gt;Heh&lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone else can buy.<br />
You&#8217;re too young; you&#8217;ll have to find an adult.<br />
<i>Heh</i></p>
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		<title>By: Roni</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/01/superman-returns/#comment-38582</link>
		<dc:creator>Roni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 15:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank_D   Jul 7th, 2006 at 4:39 am
For the record, you can a ton of Superman DVD s here

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hidefdvd.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hidefdvd.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.hidefdvd.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;



Gee, Frank, you enjoy pointing out other commenter&#039;s grammatical errors, ending with a &quot;heh&quot;.  There is no verb in your sentence ... are you referring to stealing?  Downloading?  Buying?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank_D   Jul 7th, 2006 at 4:39 am<br />
For the record, you can a ton of Superman DVD s here</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hidefdvd.com/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.hidefdvd.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hidefdvd.com/</a></p>
<p>Gee, Frank, you enjoy pointing out other commenter&#8217;s grammatical errors, ending with a &#8220;heh&#8221;.  There is no verb in your sentence &#8230; are you referring to stealing?  Downloading?  Buying?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/01/superman-returns/#comment-38581</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 09:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, you can a ton of Superman DVD&#039;s here

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hidefdvd.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hidefdvd.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.hidefdvd.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, you can a ton of Superman DVD&#8217;s here</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hidefdvd.com/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.hidefdvd.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hidefdvd.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/01/superman-returns/#comment-38580</link>
		<dc:creator>duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 20:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think you&#039;re a bad person, Frank.  You&#039;re mean and angry much of the time, but i don&#039;t think you&#039;re a bad guy.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re a bad person, Frank.  You&#8217;re mean and angry much of the time, but i don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re a bad guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/01/superman-returns/#comment-38579</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 23:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Is there some reason why when I no longer post, the thread is ended?
Doesn t anybody ever have anything to say that isn t about what a bad person I am?&lt;/i&gt;
I think my questions have been answered.
Roni, you&#039;ve been attempting to play with me since your very first post.
That might change when you reach puberty. We can only hope.
Or, you could buy a parakeet -- that&#039;s budgie to you.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Is there some reason why when I no longer post, the thread is ended?<br />
Doesn t anybody ever have anything to say that isn t about what a bad person I am?</i><br />
I think my questions have been answered.<br />
Roni, you&#8217;ve been attempting to play with me since your very first post.<br />
That might change when you reach puberty. We can only hope.<br />
Or, you could buy a parakeet &#8212; that&#8217;s budgie to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Roni</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/01/superman-returns/#comment-38578</link>
		<dc:creator>Roni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 22:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pwease, pwease, won&#039;t SOMEone pway wit me?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pwease, pwease, won&#8217;t SOMEone pway wit me?</p>
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		<title>By: duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/01/superman-returns/#comment-38577</link>
		<dc:creator>duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 22:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Is there some reason why when I no longer post, the thread is ended?&lt;/i&gt;
Frank, it&#039;s because when you&#039;ve finished posting, we all have to use both hands to keep our heads from exploding.
&quot;My brain hurts...&quot;
Now you can tell me how that is impossible since I have no brain...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Is there some reason why when I no longer post, the thread is ended?</i><br />
Frank, it&#8217;s because when you&#8217;ve finished posting, we all have to use both hands to keep our heads from exploding.<br />
&#8220;My brain hurts&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Now you can tell me how that is impossible since I have no brain&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/01/superman-returns/#comment-38576</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 12:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there some reason why when I no longer post, the thread is ended?
Doesn&#039;t anybody ever have anything to say that isn&#039;t about what a bad person I am?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there some reason why when I no longer post, the thread is ended?<br />
Doesn&#8217;t anybody ever have anything to say that isn&#8217;t about what a bad person I am?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/01/superman-returns/#comment-38575</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 06:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, enough already, it&#039;s a comic book!
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/01/superman-returns/#comment-38574</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 05:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you stopped reading Superman in 1965, you should really shut it and stop pretending you know anything about Superman. As stated above, Superman is American and he fights for the world. The filmmakers are following in the footsteps of the numerous artists and writers who have worked on Superman from the past until now. Its not like Bryan Singer woke up one day and decided to make Superman a &quot;globalist&quot;. When earth came under attack in &quot;Our Worlds At War&quot;, Superman was &lt;a href=&quot;http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1563899159.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V1063868726_.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;on the frontlines&lt;/a&gt;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you stopped reading Superman in 1965, you should really shut it and stop pretending you know anything about Superman. As stated above, Superman is American and he fights for the world. The filmmakers are following in the footsteps of the numerous artists and writers who have worked on Superman from the past until now. Its not like Bryan Singer woke up one day and decided to make Superman a &#8220;globalist&#8221;. When earth came under attack in &#8220;Our Worlds At War&#8221;, Superman was <a href="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1563899159.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V1063868726_.jpg" rel="nofollow">on the frontlines</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse in SD</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/01/superman-returns/#comment-38573</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse in SD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 05:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank_D Said:&lt;i&gt;

What is wrong with you? The only reason you can  control your emotions  is because you seem to lack a cerebral cortex.

If you re too stupid or lazy to understand that, then you need to stay away from public conversations, especially if you can t control your emotions as you clearly cannot.

If you re too stupid or lazy to understand that, then you need to stay away from public conversations, especially if you can t control your emotions as you clearly cannot.

And you have no idea what you re even arguing. Conservatives like you feel the need to find a unpatriotic boogeyman wherever you can. It s pathetic.

The problem with Al Gore is that he ll never stop being Clark Kent s weaker, less assertive, dorkier brother.

It s not Superman s fault that liberals denigrate patriotism

Rex, I know you have no intelligent opinions, but I didn t know you had no intelligence, either.&lt;/i&gt;

Remember folks, Frand_D doesn&#039;t insult anyone.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank_D Said:<i></p>
<p>What is wrong with you? The only reason you can  control your emotions  is because you seem to lack a cerebral cortex.</p>
<p>If you re too stupid or lazy to understand that, then you need to stay away from public conversations, especially if you can t control your emotions as you clearly cannot.</p>
<p>If you re too stupid or lazy to understand that, then you need to stay away from public conversations, especially if you can t control your emotions as you clearly cannot.</p>
<p>And you have no idea what you re even arguing. Conservatives like you feel the need to find a unpatriotic boogeyman wherever you can. It s pathetic.</p>
<p>The problem with Al Gore is that he ll never stop being Clark Kent s weaker, less assertive, dorkier brother.</p>
<p>It s not Superman s fault that liberals denigrate patriotism</p>
<p>Rex, I know you have no intelligent opinions, but I didn t know you had no intelligence, either.</i></p>
<p>Remember folks, Frand_D doesn&#8217;t insult anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: The Mahablog » Super Film Review</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Mahablog » Super Film Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 03:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Some of the blog guys are in disagreement over the new Superman film. Oliver Willis liked it and gave it 4/4 stars. Ezra Klein disagrees. I saw it yesterday and am voting with Oliver on this one. I was thoroughly entertained. It s especially fun to watch on an IMAX screen; some scenes are in 3D. Way cool. [...]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Some of the blog guys are in disagreement over the new Superman film. Oliver Willis liked it and gave it 4/4 stars. Ezra Klein disagrees. I saw it yesterday and am voting with Oliver on this one. I was thoroughly entertained. It s especially fun to watch on an IMAX screen; some scenes are in 3D. Way cool. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/01/superman-returns/#comment-38571</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 00:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>txbubba: You now say that Superman was a global hero, because he had space adventures.
All I was saying was that in the comics I read (from about 55 to 65) Superman was not an &lt;i&gt;international&lt;/i&gt; character, i.e., global.
You proceeded to get all huffy,telling me I was confused, telling me I hadn&#039;t heard of characters I had already mentioned, then you get pouty and tell me I&#039;m insulting people.
The original discussion was about (IMHO, anyway) what happened to the &quot;American way&quot;. I tried to tell you that it was deliberately done away with by the film makers, and you tell me about Brainiac and Kandor.
Then I actually quote the director saying that he thought of Suoerman as an American hero, but it was his choice to make Superman a world savior, and somehow, I&#039;m &quot;too stupid or lazy to understand&quot; your incorrect observation.
I certainly understood what you were trying to say, but you were wrong.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>txbubba: You now say that Superman was a global hero, because he had space adventures.<br />
All I was saying was that in the comics I read (from about 55 to 65) Superman was not an <i>international</i> character, i.e., global.<br />
You proceeded to get all huffy,telling me I was confused, telling me I hadn&#8217;t heard of characters I had already mentioned, then you get pouty and tell me I&#8217;m insulting people.<br />
The original discussion was about (IMHO, anyway) what happened to the &#8220;American way&#8221;. I tried to tell you that it was deliberately done away with by the film makers, and you tell me about Brainiac and Kandor.<br />
Then I actually quote the director saying that he thought of Suoerman as an American hero, but it was his choice to make Superman a world savior, and somehow, I&#8217;m &#8220;too stupid or lazy to understand&#8221; your incorrect observation.<br />
I certainly understood what you were trying to say, but you were wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/01/superman-returns/#comment-38570</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 23:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the piece de resistance:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/find?q=automobile&amp;sourceid=mozilla-search&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;no previous car movies have been made&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Hehe&lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the piece de resistance:<br />
<a href="http://www.imdb.com/find?q=automobile&#038;sourceid=mozilla-search" rel="nofollow">no previous car movies have been made</a><br />
<i>Hehe</i></p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/01/superman-returns/#comment-38569</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 23:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;also let me correct you on something frank nostalgia refers to something that you experienced as a child and are now watching again.&lt;/i&gt;
Let me correct you, my salivating cartoonist.
&quot;Nostalgia&quot; comes from the Layin for &quot;our pain&quot;, It was defined by Freud when he encountered it in Swiss mercenaries, who were apparently emotionally debilitated by their longing to return to Switzerland. Amazing what a little reading can do, eh?


&lt;i&gt; superman can do this, cars cant.&lt;/i&gt;
The movie was not about cars -- did you see it? It seems you did not. The cars represented people -- people whose very lives were taken away by the Interstate. People like that really existed, unlike superhuman flying men from a far off planet that was so technologically advanced that they could launch a space ship across galaxies, but couldn&#039;t use a seismograph. Right. Superman was more real that cars.

You just spat on yourself, by making embarassingly pretentious remarks about someone who did nothing to you. Do you know the story of Route 66? Did you ever ride for two and one half days on US Highways that passed through towns? I doubt it. My simple minded friend, there are not enough showers in the world to clean that polluted dustbin you pretend is a brain. And of course I don&#039;t have Asberger&#039;s, because it&#039;s spelled asperger&#039;s, you dim bulb. And I have a friend with Asperger&#039;s who has better social skills than frameone, and he spends his days listening to Pacifica radio -- ever heard of it? You know, Democracy Now, Noam Chomsky, stuff like that?

txbubba: are you just busting my chops? Did you not read the director&#039;s words? What is wrong with you? The only reason you can &quot;control your emotions&quot; is because you seem to lack a cerebral cortex.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>also let me correct you on something frank nostalgia refers to something that you experienced as a child and are now watching again.</i><br />
Let me correct you, my salivating cartoonist.<br />
&#8220;Nostalgia&#8221; comes from the Layin for &#8220;our pain&#8221;, It was defined by Freud when he encountered it in Swiss mercenaries, who were apparently emotionally debilitated by their longing to return to Switzerland. Amazing what a little reading can do, eh?</p>
<p><i> superman can do this, cars cant.</i><br />
The movie was not about cars &#8212; did you see it? It seems you did not. The cars represented people &#8212; people whose very lives were taken away by the Interstate. People like that really existed, unlike superhuman flying men from a far off planet that was so technologically advanced that they could launch a space ship across galaxies, but couldn&#8217;t use a seismograph. Right. Superman was more real that cars.</p>
<p>You just spat on yourself, by making embarassingly pretentious remarks about someone who did nothing to you. Do you know the story of Route 66? Did you ever ride for two and one half days on US Highways that passed through towns? I doubt it. My simple minded friend, there are not enough showers in the world to clean that polluted dustbin you pretend is a brain. And of course I don&#8217;t have Asberger&#8217;s, because it&#8217;s spelled asperger&#8217;s, you dim bulb. And I have a friend with Asperger&#8217;s who has better social skills than frameone, and he spends his days listening to Pacifica radio &#8212; ever heard of it? You know, Democracy Now, Noam Chomsky, stuff like that?</p>
<p>txbubba: are you just busting my chops? Did you not read the director&#8217;s words? What is wrong with you? The only reason you can &#8220;control your emotions&#8221; is because you seem to lack a cerebral cortex.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/01/superman-returns/#comment-38568</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 20:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This should settle one thing at least:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.beliefnet.com/story/194/story_19400_1.html?WT.mc_id=NL55&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;From an interview&lt;/a&gt; of &#039;Superman Returns&#039; director Bryan Singer, by Michael Kress


How has our culture in America--or our reality--changed in the two decades since the last &quot;Superman&quot; movie came out, and how did that influence the way that you made decisions in creating this movie?


I wanted to make him a more global superhero. &lt;b&gt;I think he&#039;s always, in his heart, an American superhero.&lt;/b&gt; He was raised on a farm in Kansas. That&#039;s his background, besides his Kryptonian background. But in today&#039;s world, I felt he should be more of a global superhero. I wanted to really re-state the notion that he can be everywhere on the earth. He&#039;s Earth&#039;s greatest protector. He&#039;s not just America&#039;s greatest protector.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This should settle one thing at least:<br />
<a href="http://www.beliefnet.com/story/194/story_19400_1.html?WT.mc_id=NL55" rel="nofollow">From an interview</a> of &#8216;Superman Returns&#8217; director Bryan Singer, by Michael Kress</p>
<p>How has our culture in America&#8211;or our reality&#8211;changed in the two decades since the last &#8220;Superman&#8221; movie came out, and how did that influence the way that you made decisions in creating this movie?</p>
<p>I wanted to make him a more global superhero. <b>I think he&#8217;s always, in his heart, an American superhero.</b> He was raised on a farm in Kansas. That&#8217;s his background, besides his Kryptonian background. But in today&#8217;s world, I felt he should be more of a global superhero. I wanted to really re-state the notion that he can be everywhere on the earth. He&#8217;s Earth&#8217;s greatest protector. He&#8217;s not just America&#8217;s greatest protector.</p>
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		<title>By: txbubba</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/01/superman-returns/#comment-38567</link>
		<dc:creator>txbubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 20:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank, you came here insulting people. You started the name calling with me so get off your self-righteous stick pony. Where did I insult you in all the ways you claim? I didn&#039;t (though I&#039;m tempted to if I&#039;m going to be accused of something). It&#039;s more of your fevered conservative compulsion to be a martyr. Don&#039;t foist your forum baggage on me. That&#039;s your problem, and conflating me with others is indeed a problem. You&#039;re angry and you should get some help.

As for your insistence on &quot;forever,&quot; that&#039;s neither here nor there, but I understand why you cling on a single word when you can&#039;t make your argument. I established the point of contention and the whole frame for the space examples--that Superman is a global hero beyond America&#039;s boundaries. If you&#039;re too stupid or lazy to understand that, then you need to stay away from public conversations, especially if you can&#039;t control your emotions as you clearly cannot.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, you came here insulting people. You started the name calling with me so get off your self-righteous stick pony. Where did I insult you in all the ways you claim? I didn&#8217;t (though I&#8217;m tempted to if I&#8217;m going to be accused of something). It&#8217;s more of your fevered conservative compulsion to be a martyr. Don&#8217;t foist your forum baggage on me. That&#8217;s your problem, and conflating me with others is indeed a problem. You&#8217;re angry and you should get some help.</p>
<p>As for your insistence on &#8220;forever,&#8221; that&#8217;s neither here nor there, but I understand why you cling on a single word when you can&#8217;t make your argument. I established the point of contention and the whole frame for the space examples&#8211;that Superman is a global hero beyond America&#8217;s boundaries. If you&#8217;re too stupid or lazy to understand that, then you need to stay away from public conversations, especially if you can&#8217;t control your emotions as you clearly cannot.</p>
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		<title>By: txbubba</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/01/superman-returns/#comment-38566</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 17:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to see you apologize for both your spoilers and your hypocrisy.

No, Frank, I read your confused post in its entirety. You can&#039;t say, Oh I know about Brainiac, etc., but I&#039;m just saying that they don&#039;t matter. They do, Frank. Those stories were a significant part of the Superman stories.

Nobody is hesitant to call Superman an American hero: You clearly did not read the Singer quotes I linked to where he said that Superman is an American hero but fights for the world. This argument started because you disagreed with this statement: &quot;He makes his home here, he is a proud American, but Superman works for those who need help wherever they are.&quot; Again, my citing those Binder and later stories reinforces the statement that he helps and acts beyond America&#039;s boundaries. It&#039;s called &quot;evidence&quot; not &quot;hogwash.&quot;

Where&#039;s the denial of being an American? More importantly, where is your argument? You have nothing but unsupported claims.

Nobody has &quot;denigrated&quot; patriotism. But you&#039;re clearly not above making up accusations.

As for Superman not spending time away from earth, you better think again. Try Superman #141 where he spent several weeks at least when he went back to Krypton. Then you might try the &quot;Exile&quot; stories from 1989-90 that crossed &lt;i&gt;Superman&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;Action Comics&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Adventures of Superman&lt;/i&gt;. Then there&#039;s Denny O&#039;Neill&#039;s &quot;Sandman sage&quot; in &#039;72 that was a break from stories like &quot;The Starry-Eyed Siren of Space,&quot; &quot;The Demon Under the Red Sun,&quot; and  &quot;Planet of the Angels&quot; because Denny kept Superman on earth. Again the point is that Superman doesn&#039;t stop at America&#039;s borders.

I could go on, but you clearly don&#039;t know your Superman stories. And you have no idea what you&#039;re even arguing. Conservatives like you feel the need to find a unpatriotic boogeyman wherever you can. It&#039;s pathetic.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to see you apologize for both your spoilers and your hypocrisy.</p>
<p>No, Frank, I read your confused post in its entirety. You can&#8217;t say, Oh I know about Brainiac, etc., but I&#8217;m just saying that they don&#8217;t matter. They do, Frank. Those stories were a significant part of the Superman stories.</p>
<p>Nobody is hesitant to call Superman an American hero: You clearly did not read the Singer quotes I linked to where he said that Superman is an American hero but fights for the world. This argument started because you disagreed with this statement: &#8220;He makes his home here, he is a proud American, but Superman works for those who need help wherever they are.&#8221; Again, my citing those Binder and later stories reinforces the statement that he helps and acts beyond America&#8217;s boundaries. It&#8217;s called &#8220;evidence&#8221; not &#8220;hogwash.&#8221;</p>
<p>Where&#8217;s the denial of being an American? More importantly, where is your argument? You have nothing but unsupported claims.</p>
<p>Nobody has &#8220;denigrated&#8221; patriotism. But you&#8217;re clearly not above making up accusations.</p>
<p>As for Superman not spending time away from earth, you better think again. Try Superman #141 where he spent several weeks at least when he went back to Krypton. Then you might try the &#8220;Exile&#8221; stories from 1989-90 that crossed <i>Superman</i>, <i>Action Comics</i> and <i>Adventures of Superman</i>. Then there&#8217;s Denny O&#8217;Neill&#8217;s &#8220;Sandman sage&#8221; in &#8216;72 that was a break from stories like &#8220;The Starry-Eyed Siren of Space,&#8221; &#8220;The Demon Under the Red Sun,&#8221; and  &#8220;Planet of the Angels&#8221; because Denny kept Superman on earth. Again the point is that Superman doesn&#8217;t stop at America&#8217;s borders.</p>
<p>I could go on, but you clearly don&#8217;t know your Superman stories. And you have no idea what you&#8217;re even arguing. Conservatives like you feel the need to find a unpatriotic boogeyman wherever you can. It&#8217;s pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/01/superman-returns/#comment-38565</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 17:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>txbubba: Have you been out in the sun too long? I said twice (now three times),  they could have had him live in space forever
&lt;b&gt;live in space forever&lt;/b&gt;


&lt;i&gt;live in space&lt;/i&gt; &lt;b&gt;forever&lt;/b&gt;


&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;LIVE IN SPACE FOREVER!!!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;


I didn&#039;t say the &quot;space&quot; stories didn&#039;t matter. Not. once. not. ever.
So let&#039;s end this, because you&#039;re aggravating me.

One final note:
&lt;i&gt;I m glad to see you apologize for both your spoilers and your hypocrisy.&lt;/i&gt;
1) To make a mistake is not hypocricy -- check the dictionary.
2) And if you think I owe an apology to bumbling oafs like you who have insulted my profession, my age, my children, my personality, my intelligence, questioned my sanity -- as Bluto frameone likes to say, &quot;No quarter has been asked, and no quarter will be given&quot; -- you are sadly, woefully, mistaken.
I didn&#039;t make the rules of engagement here. (See the last paragraph of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/02/did-the-right-sleep-during-social-studies/#comment-42822&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this comment&lt;/a&gt;.)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>txbubba: Have you been out in the sun too long? I said twice (now three times),  they could have had him live in space forever<br />
<b>live in space forever</b></p>
<p><i>live in space</i> <b>forever</b></p>
<p><b><i>LIVE IN SPACE FOREVER!!!</i></b></p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say the &#8220;space&#8221; stories didn&#8217;t matter. Not. once. not. ever.<br />
So let&#8217;s end this, because you&#8217;re aggravating me.</p>
<p>One final note:<br />
<i>I m glad to see you apologize for both your spoilers and your hypocrisy.</i><br />
1) To make a mistake is not hypocricy &#8212; check the dictionary.<br />
2) And if you think I owe an apology to bumbling oafs like you who have insulted my profession, my age, my children, my personality, my intelligence, questioned my sanity &#8212; as Bluto frameone likes to say, &#8220;No quarter has been asked, and no quarter will be given&#8221; &#8212; you are sadly, woefully, mistaken.<br />
I didn&#8217;t make the rules of engagement here. (See the last paragraph of <a href="http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/02/did-the-right-sleep-during-social-studies/#comment-42822" rel="nofollow">this comment</a>.)</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/07/01/superman-returns/#comment-38564</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 12:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>txbubba: You started writing your post, before you read al pf mine, didn&#039;t you?
I said I knew about Krypto, Supergirl, and Bizarro.
It just so happens that I do remember the Braniac stories, and Kandor, too.
But what I said was, &quot;they could have had him live in space forever&quot;, which you even quoted. Did he ever &quot;live&quot; in space? Nope.
Did he ever get involved in adventures outside of America, after he beat the Nazis and the Japs, with the help of FDR, right, Oliver? =:-}
The rest of what you wrote is just typical liberal hogwash. You shouldn&#039;t have wasted your time. As irrelevant as it is, it is even more irrelevant to the story of Superman.
I wasn&#039;t suggesting that Superman was a conservative hero, or that he tie a yellow ribbon around an icicle at the entrance to the Fortress of Solitude.
But, there was a time when you could be a liberal or a conservative, and not hesitate to call yourself an American, and choose to ally yourself with clearly defined American values, for which Superman stood (remember &quot;the American way&quot;? What do you think that meant: Universal one payer health care? Abortion on demand? Tax cuts? Anti - flag burning amendments?)
It&#039;s not Superman&#039;s fault that liberals denigrate patriotism, while conservatives act like they own it, in addition to defining it.
And I didn&#039;t say that&#039;s why we can&#039;t win the GWoT. I said that&#039;s why we&#039;re not winning the GWoT. And, just because liberals stand around not thinking until DU and DailyKOS, and, of course, Oliver&#039;s Krypton Central, update; doesn&#039;t mean I get my marching orders from the White House, the RNC, FOX News, or talk radio, for that matter.
deets: Maybe I was a little harsh on Lois. But if she was really carrying a torch for Superman, and remember, she didn&#039;t know he wasn&#039;t coming back for five years, why jump into a new relationship  (read &quot;bedpartner&quot;) in less than 56 days?
You&#039;re right about one thing, though: &quot;It is pretty dumb to be debating a fictional character s love life on a blog anyway&quot;.
So leave Rush Limbaugh alone.
dagnabbit: Suoerman was made an &lt;i&gt;American&lt;/i&gt; citizen (couldn&#039;t avoid rubbing that in) by an act of Congress, years ago.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>txbubba: You started writing your post, before you read al pf mine, didn&#8217;t you?<br />
I said I knew about Krypto, Supergirl, and Bizarro.<br />
It just so happens that I do remember the Braniac stories, and Kandor, too.<br />
But what I said was, &#8220;they could have had him live in space forever&#8221;, which you even quoted. Did he ever &#8220;live&#8221; in space? Nope.<br />
Did he ever get involved in adventures outside of America, after he beat the Nazis and the Japs, with the help of FDR, right, Oliver? =:-}<br />
The rest of what you wrote is just typical liberal hogwash. You shouldn&#8217;t have wasted your time. As irrelevant as it is, it is even more irrelevant to the story of Superman.<br />
I wasn&#8217;t suggesting that Superman was a conservative hero, or that he tie a yellow ribbon around an icicle at the entrance to the Fortress of Solitude.<br />
But, there was a time when you could be a liberal or a conservative, and not hesitate to call yourself an American, and choose to ally yourself with clearly defined American values, for which Superman stood (remember &#8220;the American way&#8221;? What do you think that meant: Universal one payer health care? Abortion on demand? Tax cuts? Anti &#8211; flag burning amendments?)<br />
It&#8217;s not Superman&#8217;s fault that liberals denigrate patriotism, while conservatives act like they own it, in addition to defining it.<br />
And I didn&#8217;t say that&#8217;s why we can&#8217;t win the GWoT. I said that&#8217;s why we&#8217;re not winning the GWoT. And, just because liberals stand around not thinking until DU and DailyKOS, and, of course, Oliver&#8217;s Krypton Central, update; doesn&#8217;t mean I get my marching orders from the White House, the RNC, FOX News, or talk radio, for that matter.<br />
deets: Maybe I was a little harsh on Lois. But if she was really carrying a torch for Superman, and remember, she didn&#8217;t know he wasn&#8217;t coming back for five years, why jump into a new relationship  (read &#8220;bedpartner&#8221;) in less than 56 days?<br />
You&#8217;re right about one thing, though: &#8220;It is pretty dumb to be debating a fictional character s love life on a blog anyway&#8221;.<br />
So leave Rush Limbaugh alone.<br />
dagnabbit: Suoerman was made an <i>American</i> citizen (couldn&#8217;t avoid rubbing that in) by an act of Congress, years ago.</p>
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