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	<title>Comments on: Are Immigration Extremists Marginal Even In The GOP?</title>
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		<title>By: duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/28/are-immigration-extremists-marginal-even-in-the-gop/#comment-38153</link>
		<dc:creator>duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, man, you said it, I didn&#039;t. Don&#039;t go puttin&#039; words in my mouth, Frank. (and just for the record, you have called me a name unprovoked)

My stand on Israel-Palestine? Really don&#039;t have one, to be honest. They both have the right to exist.
Any other questions?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, man, you said it, I didn&#8217;t. Don&#8217;t go puttin&#8217; words in my mouth, Frank. (and just for the record, you have called me a name unprovoked)</p>
<p>My stand on Israel-Palestine? Really don&#8217;t have one, to be honest. They both have the right to exist.<br />
Any other questions?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/28/are-immigration-extremists-marginal-even-in-the-gop/#comment-38152</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Catholic Italian Republican conservative Right - to - Lifer, you half wit*...


*Nice try, pulling the anti - semitism crap out of your rectum... What&#039;s your stand on Israel - Plaestine?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Catholic Italian Republican conservative Right &#8211; to &#8211; Lifer, you half wit*&#8230;</p>
<p>*Nice try, pulling the anti &#8211; semitism crap out of your rectum&#8230; What&#8217;s your stand on Israel &#8211; Plaestine?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/28/are-immigration-extremists-marginal-even-in-the-gop/#comment-38151</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;A statue of the 10 commandments in front of a courthouse is not going to be the end of our society, nor is a creche at town hall.&lt;/i&gt;


Next you&#039;re going to tell me it doesn&#039;t bother any Democratics or liberals &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; know.


I believe that liberals and Democratics know you can&#039;t go wrong making fun of southerners (dumb rednecks), and Catholics (read &quot;child molesting priests&quot;, even though teachers molest way more children than priests.)
Coming up a close third are Italians. That&#039;s why we&#039;ll have a black woman President (C. Rice) before we have an Italian President (R. Giuliani).


Wm F. Buckley revealed the left&#039;s dirty little secret years ago: Anti - Catholicism is to the Left, what anti - semitism is to the Right.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>A statue of the 10 commandments in front of a courthouse is not going to be the end of our society, nor is a creche at town hall.</i></p>
<p>Next you&#8217;re going to tell me it doesn&#8217;t bother any Democratics or liberals <i>you</i> know.</p>
<p>I believe that liberals and Democratics know you can&#8217;t go wrong making fun of southerners (dumb rednecks), and Catholics (read &#8220;child molesting priests&#8221;, even though teachers molest way more children than priests.)<br />
Coming up a close third are Italians. That&#8217;s why we&#8217;ll have a black woman President (C. Rice) before we have an Italian President (R. Giuliani).</p>
<p>Wm F. Buckley revealed the left&#8217;s dirty little secret years ago: Anti &#8211; Catholicism is to the Left, what anti &#8211; semitism is to the Right.</p>
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		<title>By: duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/28/are-immigration-extremists-marginal-even-in-the-gop/#comment-38150</link>
		<dc:creator>duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Next you re going to tell me it doesn t bother any Democratics or liberals you know.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
No,  actually it doesn&#039;t.
Frank, that is the most racist and intolerant rant I have ever seen you post here, and that&#039;s saying something.
Of course, none of the Repulcians or conservatives &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; know would&lt;i&gt;ever&lt;/i&gt; make fun of a southerner or a Catholic, the Kennedy&#039;s notwithstanding.
So, to sum up, you&#039;re anti-semitic and you don&#039;t like Italian Republican conservatives. Do I have that right?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Next you re going to tell me it doesn t bother any Democratics or liberals you know.</p></blockquote>
<p>No,  actually it doesn&#8217;t.<br />
Frank, that is the most racist and intolerant rant I have ever seen you post here, and that&#8217;s saying something.<br />
Of course, none of the Repulcians or conservatives <i>you</i> know would<i>ever</i> make fun of a southerner or a Catholic, the Kennedy&#8217;s notwithstanding.<br />
So, to sum up, you&#8217;re anti-semitic and you don&#8217;t like Italian Republican conservatives. Do I have that right?</p>
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		<title>By: duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/28/are-immigration-extremists-marginal-even-in-the-gop/#comment-38149</link>
		<dc:creator>duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;If the Islamofascists we were fighting were Roman Catholics from the South, the left would be clamoring for President Bush to go nuclear.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Frank, that&#039;s a terrible thing to say and you know it. Do I need to cite evidence? Are you seriously suggesting that you believe no one in the Democratic Party believes in God or are Catholic?

You went OT on this thread about extremism to say something about Obama, positive or negative, I still can&#039;t figure out. I happen to agree with Obama; that while I may not subscribe to the same beliefs as others, it won&#039;t hurt me to respect those beliefs. A statue of the 10 commandments in front of a courthouse is not going to be the end of our society, nor is a creche at town hall.
Seriously, I don&#039;t know how you manage to function in society
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>If the Islamofascists we were fighting were Roman Catholics from the South, the left would be clamoring for President Bush to go nuclear.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Frank, that&#8217;s a terrible thing to say and you know it. Do I need to cite evidence? Are you seriously suggesting that you believe no one in the Democratic Party believes in God or are Catholic?</p>
<p>You went OT on this thread about extremism to say something about Obama, positive or negative, I still can&#8217;t figure out. I happen to agree with Obama; that while I may not subscribe to the same beliefs as others, it won&#8217;t hurt me to respect those beliefs. A statue of the 10 commandments in front of a courthouse is not going to be the end of our society, nor is a creche at town hall.<br />
Seriously, I don&#8217;t know how you manage to function in society</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Melanie Morgan plays what role in the Republican Party?
Besides none?
And of course if duros62 says it&#039;s wrong with no support, documentation or evidence, then it must be wrong.
Or not.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Melanie Morgan plays what role in the Republican Party?<br />
Besides none?<br />
And of course if duros62 says it&#8217;s wrong with no support, documentation or evidence, then it must be wrong.<br />
Or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/28/are-immigration-extremists-marginal-even-in-the-gop/#comment-38147</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 22:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unlike you, TomY, I see the world in greater than 24 hour units, and I get my news from all over the world, not just Krypton Central, DU, and DailyKOS.


There are few things that get liberals more exercized than getting close to outlawing abortion, and getting even remotely close to acknowledging the existence of God.


If the Islamofascists we were fighting were Roman Catholics from the South, the left would be clamoring for President Bush to go nuclear.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike you, TomY, I see the world in greater than 24 hour units, and I get my news from all over the world, not just Krypton Central, DU, and DailyKOS.</p>
<p>There are few things that get liberals more exercized than getting close to outlawing abortion, and getting even remotely close to acknowledging the existence of God.</p>
<p>If the Islamofascists we were fighting were Roman Catholics from the South, the left would be clamoring for President Bush to go nuclear.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/28/are-immigration-extremists-marginal-even-in-the-gop/#comment-38146</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 22:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since you obviously &quot;read&quot; it with no comprehension the first time, I will indicate for you the salient* points:


Sen. ______ _____ &lt;b&gt;chastised fellow Democrats&lt;/b&gt; on Wednesday &lt;b&gt;for failing to  acknowledge the power of faith in the lives of the American people&lt;/b&gt;,  and said the party must compete for the support of evangelicals and other churchgoing Americans.
 &lt;b&gt;Not every mention of God in public is a breach to the wall of separation.&lt;/b&gt; Context matters,  the ________ Democrat said in remarks prepared for delivery to a conference of Call to Renewal, a faith-based movement to overcome poverty.
 &lt;b&gt;It is doubtful that children reciting the Pledge of Allegiance feel oppressed or brainwashed as a consequence of muttering the phrase  under God, &lt;/b&gt;  he said.  &lt;b&gt;Having voluntary student prayer groups using school property to meet should not be a threat&lt;/b&gt;, any more than its use by the High School Republicans should threaten Democrats.


Does that sound like the kind of Democratics, and liberals, we&#039;ve been hearing from lately? (The &quot;God is coming!&quot; God is coming!&quot; crowd)



* Meaning #1: having a quality that thrusts itself into attention
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since you obviously &#8220;read&#8221; it with no comprehension the first time, I will indicate for you the salient* points:</p>
<p>Sen. ______ _____ <b>chastised fellow Democrats</b> on Wednesday <b>for failing to  acknowledge the power of faith in the lives of the American people</b>,  and said the party must compete for the support of evangelicals and other churchgoing Americans.<br />
 <b>Not every mention of God in public is a breach to the wall of separation.</b> Context matters,  the ________ Democrat said in remarks prepared for delivery to a conference of Call to Renewal, a faith-based movement to overcome poverty.<br />
 <b>It is doubtful that children reciting the Pledge of Allegiance feel oppressed or brainwashed as a consequence of muttering the phrase  under God, </b>  he said.  <b>Having voluntary student prayer groups using school property to meet should not be a threat</b>, any more than its use by the High School Republicans should threaten Democrats.</p>
<p>Does that sound like the kind of Democratics, and liberals, we&#8217;ve been hearing from lately? (The &#8220;God is coming!&#8221; God is coming!&#8221; crowd)</p>
<p>* Meaning #1: having a quality that thrusts itself into attention</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/28/are-immigration-extremists-marginal-even-in-the-gop/#comment-38145</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 22:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More on Obama from MyDD

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/6/28/104440/256&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/6/28/104440/256&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/6/28/104440/256&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on Obama from MyDD</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/6/28/104440/256" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/6/28/104440/256" rel="nofollow">http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/6/28/104440/256</a></p>
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		<title>By: duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/28/are-immigration-extremists-marginal-even-in-the-gop/#comment-38144</link>
		<dc:creator>duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 22:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, that doesn&#039;t sound like extremism to me. Sounds to me, as it always has, like common sense.

This does, though.
CLIPS: Frequent MSNBC guest Melanie Morgan: If NYT&#039;s Keller convicted of treason, &quot;I would have no problem with him being sent to the gas chamber&quot;
See the difference, Frank, or should the letters be bigger for you to read and understand?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, that doesn&#8217;t sound like extremism to me. Sounds to me, as it always has, like common sense.</p>
<p>This does, though.<br />
CLIPS: Frequent MSNBC guest Melanie Morgan: If NYT&#8217;s Keller convicted of treason, &#8220;I would have no problem with him being sent to the gas chamber&#8221;<br />
See the difference, Frank, or should the letters be bigger for you to read and understand?</p>
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		<title>By: duros62</title>
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		<dc:creator>duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 22:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, nice generalization, Frank. And completely wrong, of course.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, nice generalization, Frank. And completely wrong, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: TomY</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/28/are-immigration-extremists-marginal-even-in-the-gop/#comment-38142</link>
		<dc:creator>TomY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 22:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strawman. If you want to characterize liberals as being really worked up about something, a more appropriate version would be something like the &quot;strategic failure in Iraq is coming!&quot; &quot;strategic failure in Iraq is coming!&quot; crowd.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strawman. If you want to characterize liberals as being really worked up about something, a more appropriate version would be something like the &#8220;strategic failure in Iraq is coming!&#8221; &#8220;strategic failure in Iraq is coming!&#8221; crowd.</p>
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		<title>By: duros62</title>
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		<dc:creator>duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 21:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And your point is what, exctly, Frank? That Democrats have a concept of God and religion? Horrors! Don&#039;t tell Ann!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And your point is what, exctly, Frank? That Democrats have a concept of God and religion? Horrors! Don&#8217;t tell Ann!</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/28/are-immigration-extremists-marginal-even-in-the-gop/#comment-38140</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 14:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of extremism, who said this? &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Sen. ______ _____ chastised fellow Democrats on Wednesday for failing to &quot;acknowledge the power of faith in the lives of the American people,&quot; and said the party must compete for the support of evangelicals and other churchgoing Americans.
&quot;Not every mention of God in public is a breach to the wall of separation. Context matters,&quot; the ________ Democrat said in remarks prepared for delivery to a conference of Call to Renewal, a faith-based movement to overcome poverty.
&quot;It is doubtful that children reciting the Pledge of Allegiance feel oppressed or brainwashed as a consequence of muttering the phrase &#039;under God,&quot;&#039; he said. &quot;Having voluntary student prayer groups using school property to meet should not be a threat, any more than its use by the High School Republicans should threaten Democrats.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of extremism, who said this?<br />
<blockquote><i>Sen. ______ _____ chastised fellow Democrats on Wednesday for failing to &#8220;acknowledge the power of faith in the lives of the American people,&#8221; and said the party must compete for the support of evangelicals and other churchgoing Americans.<br />
&#8220;Not every mention of God in public is a breach to the wall of separation. Context matters,&#8221; the ________ Democrat said in remarks prepared for delivery to a conference of Call to Renewal, a faith-based movement to overcome poverty.<br />
&#8220;It is doubtful that children reciting the Pledge of Allegiance feel oppressed or brainwashed as a consequence of muttering the phrase &#8216;under God,&#8221;&#8216; he said. &#8220;Having voluntary student prayer groups using school property to meet should not be a threat, any more than its use by the High School Republicans should threaten Democrats.</i></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/28/are-immigration-extremists-marginal-even-in-the-gop/#comment-38139</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 14:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give up?

Sen Barack Obama.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give up?</p>
<p>Sen Barack Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/28/are-immigration-extremists-marginal-even-in-the-gop/#comment-38138</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 01:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of</p>
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		<title>By: factcheck</title>
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		<dc:creator>factcheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think I agree.  An incumbent only getting 56% of the vote in a party primary is a bad sign.

Whatever the challenger did, he motivated the hard right wing base that votes in primaries.  The more reasonable voters who only show up for general elections would have handed the challenger a spanking.

Of course, in Utah, there may just be a paucity of reasonable voters!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think I agree.  An incumbent only getting 56% of the vote in a party primary is a bad sign.</p>
<p>Whatever the challenger did, he motivated the hard right wing base that votes in primaries.  The more reasonable voters who only show up for general elections would have handed the challenger a spanking.</p>
<p>Of course, in Utah, there may just be a paucity of reasonable voters!</p>
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