Comments on: The Democratic Cop Out http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/20/the-democratic-cop-out/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:30:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Frank_D http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/20/the-democratic-cop-out/#comment-37276 Frank_D Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:06:58 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2221#comment-37276 Apparently you don't know how many diehard Yankee fans hate Steinbrenner, and would be hardpressed to recall the name of the general manager... See, if you don't support the <i> efforts</i> of the troops, they becone demoralized, and have difficulty performing their mission. Personally, I can tell you that it's distracting, and leads to carelessness. That means more flag draped coffins. Apparently you don’t know how many diehard Yankee fans hate Steinbrenner, and would be hardpressed to recall the name of the general manager…

See, if you don’t support the efforts of the troops, they becone demoralized, and have difficulty performing their mission.
Personally, I can tell you that it’s distracting, and leads to carelessness.
That means more flag draped coffins.

]]> By: JSA http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/20/the-democratic-cop-out/#comment-37275 JSA Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:06:18 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2221#comment-37275 "That makes sense. It s not the same thing as saying,  I support the NY Yankees, and it s the 7th inning. Let s leave the field, because I don t think they should have played today  even though they re itching to stay in, and win, the game. That makes sense, too. The problem is staying loyal to the team while you have issues with the manager and GM. “That makes sense. It s not the same thing as saying,  I support the NY Yankees, and it s the 7th inning. Let s leave the field, because I don t think they should have played today  even though they re itching to stay in, and win, the game.

That makes sense, too. The problem is staying loyal to the team while you have issues with the manager and GM.

]]> By: Frank_D http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/20/the-democratic-cop-out/#comment-37274 Frank_D Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:06:18 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2221#comment-37274 <i>Since when has any position within any political party ever been the opinion of every single member of the party?</i> Yes, Oliver, <a href="http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/21/gop-values/" rel="nofollow">since when</a>? Since when has any position within any political party ever been the opinion of every single member of the party?
Yes, Oliver, since when?

]]> By: Frank_D http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/20/the-democratic-cop-out/#comment-37273 Frank_D Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:06:05 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2221#comment-37273 JSA: <i>But now that we have, I hope we don t fail</i> That makes sense. It's not the same thing as saying, "I support the NY Yankees, and it's the 7th inning. Let's leave the field, because I don't think they should have played today -- even though they're itching to stay in, and win, the game." JSA: But now that we have, I hope we don t fail

That makes sense. It’s not the same thing as saying, “I support the NY Yankees, and it’s the 7th inning. Let’s leave the field, because I don’t think they should have played today — even though they’re itching to stay in, and win, the game.”

]]> By: JSA http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/20/the-democratic-cop-out/#comment-37272 JSA Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:06:58 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2221#comment-37272 Frank, I don't think we should have invaded. But now that we have, I hope we don't fail. If others can't accept that, well, I can't help it. Frank,
I don’t think we should have invaded. But now that we have, I hope we don’t fail. If others can’t accept that, well, I can’t help it.

]]> By: Frank_D http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/20/the-democratic-cop-out/#comment-37271 Frank_D Fri, 23 Jun 2006 04:06:05 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2221#comment-37271 "How does one who is sincerely opposed to the war express that opposition without being labeld as hoping for defeat?" I would suggest that if you want to believe the former while claiming to believe the latter, then the problem would be yours. I certainly don't know how. “How does one who is sincerely opposed to the war express that opposition without being labeld as hoping for defeat?”
I would suggest that if you want to believe the former while claiming to believe the latter, then the problem would be yours.
I certainly don’t know how.

]]> By: Roni http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/20/the-democratic-cop-out/#comment-37270 Roni Fri, 23 Jun 2006 02:06:33 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2221#comment-37270 As long as I never have to be a 'patient', 'drpedro'. Can you differentiate your ass from a hole in the ground (important for a 'practicing surgeon') wearing the rose colored glasses you share with The Decider? As long as I never have to be a ‘patient’, ‘drpedro’. Can you differentiate your ass from a hole in the ground (important for a ‘practicing surgeon’) wearing the rose colored glasses you share with The Decider?

]]> By: drpedro http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/20/the-democratic-cop-out/#comment-37269 drpedro Fri, 23 Jun 2006 01:06:02 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2221#comment-37269 Well Roni, at least you recognize my intellectual superiority! ; ) Well Roni, at least you recognize my intellectual superiority!

; )

]]> By: Roni http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/20/the-democratic-cop-out/#comment-37268 Roni Thu, 22 Jun 2006 06:06:28 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2221#comment-37268 drpedro Says: June 21st, 2006 at 11:10 am And Roni, I feel your pain. I am like M&M s, you can t just eat one! It s a curse& & .. factcheck Says: June 21st, 2006 at 11:10 am roni, these trolls have nothing in their lives, that is why they troll here. It is either troll or commit suicide. That s why I pretty much ignore most of them. They are very small, sad people, looking for validation. :-) LOL ... factcheck, I always smile reading drpedro's posts. The time and effort a "busy surgeon" invests being intellectually superior to people he complains about regularly is moronic. drpedro Says:
June 21st, 2006 at 11:10 am
And Roni, I feel your pain. I am like M&M s, you can t just eat one! It s a curse& & ..

factcheck Says:
June 21st, 2006 at 11:10 am
roni, these trolls have nothing in their lives, that is why they troll here. It is either troll or commit suicide. That s why I pretty much ignore most of them. They are very small, sad people, looking for validation.

:-) LOL … factcheck, I always smile reading drpedro’s posts. The time and effort a “busy surgeon” invests being intellectually superior to people he complains about regularly is moronic.

]]> By: drpedro http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/20/the-democratic-cop-out/#comment-37267 drpedro Wed, 21 Jun 2006 23:06:33 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2221#comment-37267 please read carefully. I said weakened, and that is what I meant. Reconstruction doesn't mean there isn't any violence. Tom, the war was won in 6 weeks. We are there helping the Iraqi's get back on their feet after living under the heel of an autocrat for the last 30 years. please read carefully. I said weakened, and that is what I meant. Reconstruction doesn’t mean there isn’t any violence.

Tom, the war was won in 6 weeks. We are there helping the Iraqi’s get back on their feet after living under the heel of an autocrat for the last 30 years.

]]> By: TomY http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/20/the-democratic-cop-out/#comment-37266 TomY Wed, 21 Jun 2006 22:06:39 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2221#comment-37266 So Pedro's a defeatist too, he just puts the defeat down to different enemies. Fine. Hatred of your fellow countrymen is nothing new, but it won't help our soldiers or our country, nor will it redeem an unwinnable war. Bring the soldiers home now. So Pedro’s a defeatist too, he just puts the defeat down to different enemies. Fine. Hatred of your fellow countrymen is nothing new, but it won’t help our soldiers or our country, nor will it redeem an unwinnable war. Bring the soldiers home now.

]]> By: TomY http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/20/the-democratic-cop-out/#comment-37265 TomY Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:06:31 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2221#comment-37265 Mark my words: by November 1, Pedro will be howling about how the Democrats, liberals, media (the usual Malkinite boogeymen) lost Iraq. Between that time, there will be chest beating, muscle flexing, and more GOP masturbation. There will also be death, heroisim, and savagery. But none of it has a chance in hell of redeeming Bush's strategic blunder. This enterprise was doomed from the get-go. Mark my words: by November 1, Pedro will be howling about how the Democrats, liberals, media (the usual Malkinite boogeymen) lost Iraq. Between that time, there will be chest beating, muscle flexing, and more GOP masturbation. There will also be death, heroisim, and savagery. But none of it has a chance in hell of redeeming Bush’s strategic blunder. This enterprise was doomed from the get-go.

]]> By: drpedro http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/20/the-democratic-cop-out/#comment-37264 drpedro Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:06:25 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2221#comment-37264 Oh no, I have begun howling that already. It is clearly the case that those usual suspects have weakened our Iraqi stance. Of interest, that was their goal! Success achieved liberals! At the cost of US lives you have weakened our reconstruction of Iraq....Bravo! Oh no, I have begun howling that already. It is clearly the case that those usual suspects have weakened our Iraqi stance. Of interest, that was their goal!

Success achieved liberals! At the cost of US lives you have weakened our reconstruction of Iraq….Bravo!

]]> By: JSA http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/20/the-democratic-cop-out/#comment-37263 JSA Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:06:09 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2221#comment-37263 "Success achieved liberals! At the cost of US lives you have weakened our reconstruction of Iraq& ." How? And why are US lives being lost at all if we're in the "reconstruction" phase? “Success achieved liberals! At the cost of US lives you have weakened our reconstruction of Iraq& .”

How? And why are US lives being lost at all if we’re in the “reconstruction” phase?

]]> By: TomY http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/20/the-democratic-cop-out/#comment-37262 TomY Wed, 21 Jun 2006 20:06:57 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2221#comment-37262 If you're accusing me of believing that we have already lost the war, I think the picture next to my comments is clear enough. Playing word games isn't going to change the fact that Bush wants to keep flushing soldiers down the toilet for nothing more than to flatter himself and his followers' self conceptions. If you’re accusing me of believing that we have already lost the war, I think the picture next to my comments is clear enough. Playing word games isn’t going to change the fact that Bush wants to keep flushing soldiers down the toilet for nothing more than to flatter himself and his followers’ self conceptions.

]]> By: drpedro http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/20/the-democratic-cop-out/#comment-37261 drpedro Wed, 21 Jun 2006 20:06:25 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2221#comment-37261 Tomy just say these words out-loud "I am a defeatist. Nothing the US Military does in Iraq will change my mind. I am completely beholden to failure in Iraq, as that is the only way my political party has a snowball's chance in hell of winning an election" Honestly, if the leftists here would just admit this, I think most of us cons would have little left to argue about. Tomy just say these words out-loud

“I am a defeatist. Nothing the US Military does in Iraq will change my mind. I am completely beholden to failure in Iraq, as that is the only way my political party has a snowball’s chance in hell of winning an election”

Honestly, if the leftists here would just admit this, I think most of us cons would have little left to argue about.

]]> By: drpedro http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/20/the-democratic-cop-out/#comment-37260 drpedro Wed, 21 Jun 2006 19:06:59 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2221#comment-37260 No sundown, as usual, you don't have it straight. Back to your Fundamentals in Propaganda class..... Tomy as usual gets all unresponsive and changes the subject when he is caught dead to rights describing himself as a defeatist...thats ok, the silence speaks volumes... No sundown, as usual, you don’t have it straight.

Back to your Fundamentals in Propaganda class…..

Tomy as usual gets all unresponsive and changes the subject when he is caught dead to rights describing himself as a defeatist…thats ok, the silence speaks volumes…

]]> By: TomY http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/20/the-democratic-cop-out/#comment-37259 TomY Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:06:04 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2221#comment-37259 Farris is only able to see the world in terms of liberals being evil, in this case, by hating the troops. In reality, the military is not the appropriate or even an adequate tool for doing what the political leadership asks of it. This is Bush's failure, not the Army's. I know you Malkinites want to blame anyone but Bush -- maybe liberals, maybe the media, maybe liberal generals -- who knows? But this failure is Bush's, and Bush's alone. History will remember. Farris is only able to see the world in terms of liberals being evil, in this case, by hating the troops. In reality, the military is not the appropriate or even an adequate tool for doing what the political leadership asks of it. This is Bush’s failure, not the Army’s. I know you Malkinites want to blame anyone but Bush — maybe liberals, maybe the media, maybe liberal generals — who knows?

But this failure is Bush’s, and Bush’s alone. History will remember.

]]> By: factcheck http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/20/the-democratic-cop-out/#comment-37258 factcheck Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:06:56 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2221#comment-37258 roni, these trolls have nothing in their lives, that is why they troll here. It is either troll or commit suicide. That's why I pretty much ignore most of them. They are very small, sad people, looking for validation. roni, these trolls have nothing in their lives, that is why they troll here. It is either troll or commit suicide. That’s why I pretty much ignore most of them. They are very small, sad people, looking for validation.

]]> By: drpedro http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/20/the-democratic-cop-out/#comment-37257 drpedro Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:06:44 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2221#comment-37257 tomy, you say your not a defeatist, then go on to describe yourself as....... a defeatist. Read your last post a bit more critically, I think you will see the irony you accuse me of being unable to recognize. And Roni, I feel your pain. I am like M&M's, you can't just eat one! It's a curse........ tomy, you say your not a defeatist, then go on to describe yourself as……. a defeatist.

Read your last post a bit more critically, I think you will see the irony you accuse me of being unable to recognize.

And Roni, I feel your pain. I am like M&M’s, you can’t just eat one! It’s a curse……..

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