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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/14/not-getting-it/#comment-36452</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, but the last line of your post had me laughing to hard to type.
So you&#039;re in 2000 - 2004 Battalion of the Bush Haters&#039; Tin Foil Hat Brigade?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but the last line of your post had me laughing to hard to type.<br />
So you&#8217;re in 2000 &#8211; 2004 Battalion of the Bush Haters&#8217; Tin Foil Hat Brigade?</p>
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		<title>By: oldseal</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/14/not-getting-it/#comment-36451</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank_D:
&quot;Of course.
Bill Clinton didn t do what he said should be done, and somehow that makes him a better man than the President who did.
OK.&quot;

Does the republican echo of &quot;wag the dog&quot;, &quot;no war for Monica&quot; mean anything to you.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=14642&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=14642&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=14642&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

The last ELECTED President and First Lady we had was under attack the entire time he was in office.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank_D:<br />
&#8220;Of course.<br />
Bill Clinton didn t do what he said should be done, and somehow that makes him a better man than the President who did.<br />
OK.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does the republican echo of &#8220;wag the dog&#8221;, &#8220;no war for Monica&#8221; mean anything to you.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=14642" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=14642" rel="nofollow">http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=14642</a></p>
<p>The last ELECTED President and First Lady we had was under attack the entire time he was in office.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/14/not-getting-it/#comment-36450</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 03:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course.
Bill Clinton didn&#039;t do what &lt;i&gt;he said&lt;/i&gt; should be done, and somehow that makes him a better man than the President who did.
OK.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course.<br />
Bill Clinton didn&#8217;t do what <i>he said</i> should be done, and somehow that makes him a better man than the President who did.<br />
OK.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/14/not-getting-it/#comment-36449</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 00:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Must have missed the part where President invaded and occupied Iraq when the murderer of 3,000 Americans went unpunished.

Oh, wait, that didn&#039;t happen.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must have missed the part where President invaded and occupied Iraq when the murderer of 3,000 Americans went unpunished.</p>
<p>Oh, wait, that didn&#8217;t happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyrus the Virus</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/14/not-getting-it/#comment-36448</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know Oliver doesn&#039;t like advice from the other side, but if the Dems nominate Al Gore for President and Gore then chooses Ed Rendell as his running mate, there&#039;s no way you guys lose.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Oliver doesn&#8217;t like advice from the other side, but if the Dems nominate Al Gore for President and Gore then chooses Ed Rendell as his running mate, there&#8217;s no way you guys lose.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/14/not-getting-it/#comment-36447</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you mean &lt;i&gt;this&lt;/i&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/16/clinton.iraq.speech/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bill Clinton&lt;/a&gt;?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you mean <i>this</i> <a href="http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/16/clinton.iraq.speech/" rel="nofollow">Bill Clinton</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/14/not-getting-it/#comment-36446</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, I would dispute whether this is a good week for Bush. I&#039;ve given the devil his due on numerous occasions in the past - I just don&#039;t think he gets it this week.

I had faith in 2000, 2002 and 2004. What did I get for it? More of the same. I&#039;d like to think there&#039;s another Bill Clinton out there, and maybe it is Al Gore, but even as great as that would be - don&#039;t you see there&#039;s something functionally wrong with a party when it needs the political equivalent of Jesus to save it from damnation every four years? The conservative movement is a plug-in apparatus, a team of people willing to fight no matter who the top man is. The Democrats apparently can&#039;t even run a primary campaign in Conneticut. Come on!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, I would dispute whether this is a good week for Bush. I&#8217;ve given the devil his due on numerous occasions in the past &#8211; I just don&#8217;t think he gets it this week.</p>
<p>I had faith in 2000, 2002 and 2004. What did I get for it? More of the same. I&#8217;d like to think there&#8217;s another Bill Clinton out there, and maybe it is Al Gore, but even as great as that would be &#8211; don&#8217;t you see there&#8217;s something functionally wrong with a party when it needs the political equivalent of Jesus to save it from damnation every four years? The conservative movement is a plug-in apparatus, a team of people willing to fight no matter who the top man is. The Democrats apparently can&#8217;t even run a primary campaign in Conneticut. Come on!</p>
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		<title>By: Bushwacked</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/14/not-getting-it/#comment-36445</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 03:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
* raising the minimum wage
* ending tax breaks for the wealthy
* fixing medicare specifically and healthcare in general
* education
* getting the fuck out of Iraq
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
And the so-called &quot;conservatives&quot; in the republican party can campaign on on their lousy record, promise more of the same in addition to the following:
&lt;b&gt;Staying in Iraq, til hell freezes over, even building permanet military bases thereEnding the &quot;death tax&quot; for millionaires and increasing the federal deficit by more tax cuts while working folks get crumbs and their children get the bill
Privitazing social securityStagnant wage levels with ever increasing gasoline pricesAttacking Iran with nuclear weapons&lt;/b&gt;

Democrats could be so lucky that the republicans were that brazen and stupid, rather than their usual &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11442710/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cheap stunts&lt;/a&gt;.
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* raising the minimum wage<br />
* ending tax breaks for the wealthy<br />
* fixing medicare specifically and healthcare in general<br />
* education<br />
* getting the fuck out of Iraq
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<p>And the so-called &#8220;conservatives&#8221; in the republican party can campaign on on their lousy record, promise more of the same in addition to the following:<br />
<b>Staying in Iraq, til hell freezes over, even building permanet military bases thereEnding the &#8220;death tax&#8221; for millionaires and increasing the federal deficit by more tax cuts while working folks get crumbs and their children get the bill<br />
Privitazing social securityStagnant wage levels with ever increasing gasoline pricesAttacking Iran with nuclear weapons</b></p>
<p>Democrats could be so lucky that the republicans were that brazen and stupid, rather than their usual <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11442710/" rel="nofollow">cheap stunts</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Roni</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/14/not-getting-it/#comment-36444</link>
		<dc:creator>Roni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 02:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>factcheck Says:
June 14th, 2006 at 8:38 pm
I thought that the #1 evil terror guy was Osama bin Laden?


factcheck, that&#039;s so ... September 11th, 2001!  Are you also under the illusion we invaded Iraq to find stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction?  Can you not keep up with the Bush administration&#039;s Programme of Bullshit?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>factcheck Says:<br />
June 14th, 2006 at 8:38 pm<br />
I thought that the #1 evil terror guy was Osama bin Laden?</p>
<p>factcheck, that&#8217;s so &#8230; September 11th, 2001!  Are you also under the illusion we invaded Iraq to find stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction?  Can you not keep up with the Bush administration&#8217;s Programme of Bullshit?</p>
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		<title>By: factcheck</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/14/not-getting-it/#comment-36443</link>
		<dc:creator>factcheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 01:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought that the #1 evil terror guy was Osama bin Laden?
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		<title>By: JK</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/14/not-getting-it/#comment-36442</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 00:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OW...if you don&#039;t think this has been a good week for Bush, then everything else you say lacks punch. At some point, you just have to give the &quot;devil his due,&quot; right?

Evil #1 terror guy dead. Rove skates.  Bush travels to Iraq.

That&#039;s a good week for Bush. And a GREAT week, for our troops...who deserve to feel good about themseleves and the job they&#039;re doing.

Will it end the war sooner? I have my serious doubts. But this is a good week for Bush. Let&#039;s get that out of the way, shall we?

Bill Clinton came out of nowhere in 1992. I had no frigging idea who the man was, sittiing across from Paul Tsongas.  Did you?

Heck..I think Al Gore could upset the apple cart. A bit of a wild card.  Kerry is just white noise the past month or two.

I really think, however, that the future of the Democratic party lies in the &quot;new&quot; blood....H. Clinton, Obama, Richardson, Edwards, to name a few.

All I&#039;m saying is that you have to have a bit of faith. The 4 people I mention above....they&#039;ve got their shit together. Faith.

JK
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OW&#8230;if you don&#8217;t think this has been a good week for Bush, then everything else you say lacks punch. At some point, you just have to give the &#8220;devil his due,&#8221; right?</p>
<p>Evil #1 terror guy dead. Rove skates.  Bush travels to Iraq.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a good week for Bush. And a GREAT week, for our troops&#8230;who deserve to feel good about themseleves and the job they&#8217;re doing.</p>
<p>Will it end the war sooner? I have my serious doubts. But this is a good week for Bush. Let&#8217;s get that out of the way, shall we?</p>
<p>Bill Clinton came out of nowhere in 1992. I had no frigging idea who the man was, sittiing across from Paul Tsongas.  Did you?</p>
<p>Heck..I think Al Gore could upset the apple cart. A bit of a wild card.  Kerry is just white noise the past month or two.</p>
<p>I really think, however, that the future of the Democratic party lies in the &#8220;new&#8221; blood&#8230;.H. Clinton, Obama, Richardson, Edwards, to name a few.</p>
<p>All I&#8217;m saying is that you have to have a bit of faith. The 4 people I mention above&#8230;.they&#8217;ve got their shit together. Faith.</p>
<p>JK</p>
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		<title>By: chum</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/14/not-getting-it/#comment-36441</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 23:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s really hard for the Dems to control what gets covered when they don&#039;t get to set the agenda.  They can&#039;t call Russert ot Mathews or O&#039;Reilly for that matter and say I&#039;d like to come on to discuss some issue.  It doesn&#039;t work that way.  Producers contact potential participants to come in and discuss the issue du jour, usually one that the Repubs put on the agenda.

Talk radio is a lost cause altogether.  It&#039;s like going on a blind date, stag, for the Dems.  With Air America and a few other venues they are able to mingle a bit, but it&#039;s often in a beat bar near closing time.  Not all that listen to the hate-mongers are righties, as some like me occasionally tune in to see what the latest talking points are.  But, like the sun rising each morning it is guaranteed, based on what the issue is or what was said by the left the day before in response, there is going to be an all day down-dressing of &quot;liberals&quot; about to take place.  Forget this dumb-downed following and those on FOX for that matter.  They are lost souls who don&#039;t turn elections.  It&#039;s a captive audience, and unless Turner or some other mogul buys Clear Channel, Westwood, etc. this is unfertile ground until more markets can be penetrated.

Similarly the entire south should be written off.  The last election proved that we don&#039;t need them anyhow to win an election.  If the voting system allowed, Ohio would have turned the last election and a solid red south would have been left wondering how that strategy put them back in the bottom of the barrel where they belong.  Just to see Zell Miller crawl back under his rock would be worth telling them to go pound salt.

The Dems, regardless of what venue they are in, have to hammer the same talking points no matter what the discuss is about.  Most Republicans are really good at shifting the attention away from their weaknesses to their opponents weaknesses.  Most Dems are MIA in shifting it right back in their face.  Here&#039;s an example of how it could go:

Host: There is about to be a vote on another $90 billion for the Iraq war, do you plan on voting for it?

Dem: I will (won&#039;t) vote for it, but we have to stop throwing money at this problem at some point in time because with Republicans in charge our deficits and national debt are out of control.  We&#039;re mortgaging our children&#039;s future to the Chinese (bogeymen help).

Rep: We have to approve this spending so our troops have the means to defeat terrorism.  We don&#039;t like the current fiscal situation, but we have a war to fight that has got to be won.

Dem: Wait a second, let&#039;s not forget that this was a war of choice.  We failed to get the bad guys in Afghanistan due this distraction, and now we have a whole new group in Iraq, folks like Zarkawi who were nobodies before the Republicans decided that pre-emtive war was the way to go.  A bad situation was made much, much worse.

Rep: Well we&#039;re fighting them over there so we don&#039;t have to face them here.  The right decision was made, and we have the terrorists on the run.  We can&#039;t afford to let Iraq slip into the hands of our enemies.

Dem: First of all we never had to fight them here, mainly because they slipped under the Republican radar on 9/11, and second we have no better idea who they are over there than we did before the invasion of Iraq.  Especially after all of the &quot;fixing&quot; the Republicans have been doing since they control all aspects of our government.  Do you just want to kill everyone over there?  Is that the Republican plan, as Cal Thomas just proposed in a recent column?

Rep: No, we want to get those who mean us harm, one at a time.

Dem: Republicans are causing more harm than they are fixing, and their tired old war plans just aren&#039;t working.  All war all the time is not the answer.

Host: What would you suggest?

Dem: Here is where a plan is needed.  To first admitting that what we did was wrong would go a long way to let the world know we&#039;re serious. Then beg, heck,  even pay if we have to for the UN to put a different face on things as we pull out.  We have to show the Iraqis that we don&#039;t have designs on their country and that we have their back by pulling out to the perimeters as Kerry and Murtha suggest.  (It&#039;s only a start, but a policy can be drawn around this.)

Who on the left do you know that could carry this conversation?  Not many!

Dems have to attack Repubs at their every &quot;perceived&quot; strength.  Strong on defense, make it common knowledge that they throw money at the military with no accountability, screw the troops at the margins, and start unecessary wars and then conduct them as poorly as can be imagined.

Do the sane with fiscal responsibility, values via corruption, even attack their faith every single day by simply interjecting a simple phrase:

If Republicans think that Jesus Christ would support (insert entire Republican agenda) then I must have a defective bible.

Hold their feet to a fire so hot that it burns your hands in the process, but they won&#039;t be standing when your done.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really hard for the Dems to control what gets covered when they don&#8217;t get to set the agenda.  They can&#8217;t call Russert ot Mathews or O&#8217;Reilly for that matter and say I&#8217;d like to come on to discuss some issue.  It doesn&#8217;t work that way.  Producers contact potential participants to come in and discuss the issue du jour, usually one that the Repubs put on the agenda.</p>
<p>Talk radio is a lost cause altogether.  It&#8217;s like going on a blind date, stag, for the Dems.  With Air America and a few other venues they are able to mingle a bit, but it&#8217;s often in a beat bar near closing time.  Not all that listen to the hate-mongers are righties, as some like me occasionally tune in to see what the latest talking points are.  But, like the sun rising each morning it is guaranteed, based on what the issue is or what was said by the left the day before in response, there is going to be an all day down-dressing of &#8220;liberals&#8221; about to take place.  Forget this dumb-downed following and those on FOX for that matter.  They are lost souls who don&#8217;t turn elections.  It&#8217;s a captive audience, and unless Turner or some other mogul buys Clear Channel, Westwood, etc. this is unfertile ground until more markets can be penetrated.</p>
<p>Similarly the entire south should be written off.  The last election proved that we don&#8217;t need them anyhow to win an election.  If the voting system allowed, Ohio would have turned the last election and a solid red south would have been left wondering how that strategy put them back in the bottom of the barrel where they belong.  Just to see Zell Miller crawl back under his rock would be worth telling them to go pound salt.</p>
<p>The Dems, regardless of what venue they are in, have to hammer the same talking points no matter what the discuss is about.  Most Republicans are really good at shifting the attention away from their weaknesses to their opponents weaknesses.  Most Dems are MIA in shifting it right back in their face.  Here&#8217;s an example of how it could go:</p>
<p>Host: There is about to be a vote on another $90 billion for the Iraq war, do you plan on voting for it?</p>
<p>Dem: I will (won&#8217;t) vote for it, but we have to stop throwing money at this problem at some point in time because with Republicans in charge our deficits and national debt are out of control.  We&#8217;re mortgaging our children&#8217;s future to the Chinese (bogeymen help).</p>
<p>Rep: We have to approve this spending so our troops have the means to defeat terrorism.  We don&#8217;t like the current fiscal situation, but we have a war to fight that has got to be won.</p>
<p>Dem: Wait a second, let&#8217;s not forget that this was a war of choice.  We failed to get the bad guys in Afghanistan due this distraction, and now we have a whole new group in Iraq, folks like Zarkawi who were nobodies before the Republicans decided that pre-emtive war was the way to go.  A bad situation was made much, much worse.</p>
<p>Rep: Well we&#8217;re fighting them over there so we don&#8217;t have to face them here.  The right decision was made, and we have the terrorists on the run.  We can&#8217;t afford to let Iraq slip into the hands of our enemies.</p>
<p>Dem: First of all we never had to fight them here, mainly because they slipped under the Republican radar on 9/11, and second we have no better idea who they are over there than we did before the invasion of Iraq.  Especially after all of the &#8220;fixing&#8221; the Republicans have been doing since they control all aspects of our government.  Do you just want to kill everyone over there?  Is that the Republican plan, as Cal Thomas just proposed in a recent column?</p>
<p>Rep: No, we want to get those who mean us harm, one at a time.</p>
<p>Dem: Republicans are causing more harm than they are fixing, and their tired old war plans just aren&#8217;t working.  All war all the time is not the answer.</p>
<p>Host: What would you suggest?</p>
<p>Dem: Here is where a plan is needed.  To first admitting that what we did was wrong would go a long way to let the world know we&#8217;re serious. Then beg, heck,  even pay if we have to for the UN to put a different face on things as we pull out.  We have to show the Iraqis that we don&#8217;t have designs on their country and that we have their back by pulling out to the perimeters as Kerry and Murtha suggest.  (It&#8217;s only a start, but a policy can be drawn around this.)</p>
<p>Who on the left do you know that could carry this conversation?  Not many!</p>
<p>Dems have to attack Repubs at their every &#8220;perceived&#8221; strength.  Strong on defense, make it common knowledge that they throw money at the military with no accountability, screw the troops at the margins, and start unecessary wars and then conduct them as poorly as can be imagined.</p>
<p>Do the sane with fiscal responsibility, values via corruption, even attack their faith every single day by simply interjecting a simple phrase:</p>
<p>If Republicans think that Jesus Christ would support (insert entire Republican agenda) then I must have a defective bible.</p>
<p>Hold their feet to a fire so hot that it burns your hands in the process, but they won&#8217;t be standing when your done.</p>
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		<title>By: lordrunningclam</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/14/not-getting-it/#comment-36440</link>
		<dc:creator>lordrunningclam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank D:

All fine ideas I support 100%

I&#039;m sorry, I can&#039;t tell if you are trying to be serious or ironic.  The last 6 years have completely buggered my irony detector.  If you&#039;re serious, well fine.  The dems should run on those and the GOPers should run on the opposite an we will see.  If you&#039;re being ironic, then ha ha - that&#039;s a good one.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank D:</p>
<p>All fine ideas I support 100%</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, I can&#8217;t tell if you are trying to be serious or ironic.  The last 6 years have completely buggered my irony detector.  If you&#8217;re serious, well fine.  The dems should run on those and the GOPers should run on the opposite an we will see.  If you&#8217;re being ironic, then ha ha &#8211; that&#8217;s a good one.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/14/not-getting-it/#comment-36439</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If any Democrat had run on those issues in the last six years and lost, I&#039;d be right there with you saying retool, retool. But the plain facts are that they haven&#039;t and I would argue its the reason they have lost and will keep losing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If any Democrat had run on those issues in the last six years and lost, I&#8217;d be right there with you saying retool, retool. But the plain facts are that they haven&#8217;t and I would argue its the reason they have lost and will keep losing.</p>
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		<title>By: JSA</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/14/not-getting-it/#comment-36438</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Of course we (Republicans) believe all these things; we believe in social security; we believe in work for the unemployed; we believe in saving homes. Cross our hearts and hope to die, we believe in all these things; but we do not like the way the present Administration is doing them. Just turn them over to us. We will do all of them-we will do more of them-we will do them better; and, most important of all, the doing of them will not cost anybody anything.&quot;

FDR
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Of course we (Republicans) believe all these things; we believe in social security; we believe in work for the unemployed; we believe in saving homes. Cross our hearts and hope to die, we believe in all these things; but we do not like the way the present Administration is doing them. Just turn them over to us. We will do all of them-we will do more of them-we will do them better; and, most important of all, the doing of them will not cost anybody anything.&#8221;</p>
<p>FDR</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/14/not-getting-it/#comment-36437</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry lrc, I definitely believe that these are all suicidal issues.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry lrc, I definitely believe that these are all suicidal issues.</p>
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		<title>By: lordrunningclam</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/14/not-getting-it/#comment-36436</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I see it, the Republicans put together a winning strategy based on diverse and sometimes conflicting special interests. There are people who are pro life who will never vote for a democrat because they aren&#039;t.  During the last election I knew an avid hunter who thought Bush was the biggest jackass on two legs but was conviced that Kerry would personally send troops to his house to confiscate his guns.  Some people wouldn&#039;t vote for dems purely on racial or religious grounds.  I figure collectively the single issue Republican voters probably amount to 25-30% of the electorate, which is about Bush&#039;s remaining hard core base right now.  Screw &#039;em.  They&#039;re lost.

If you can&#039;t win elections by stating your core beliefs and illustrating how the differ from the other guy, then you don&#039;t deserve to win elections.  Lots and lots of people think the US is off track right now.  I believe the Dems can win if they run a core values kind of campaign and state exactly what separates them from the GOPers and what they would do to get the country back on track.  They need a broad based approach.  They&#039;ll never win basing campaigns on single issues.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I see it, the Republicans put together a winning strategy based on diverse and sometimes conflicting special interests. There are people who are pro life who will never vote for a democrat because they aren&#8217;t.  During the last election I knew an avid hunter who thought Bush was the biggest jackass on two legs but was conviced that Kerry would personally send troops to his house to confiscate his guns.  Some people wouldn&#8217;t vote for dems purely on racial or religious grounds.  I figure collectively the single issue Republican voters probably amount to 25-30% of the electorate, which is about Bush&#8217;s remaining hard core base right now.  Screw &#8216;em.  They&#8217;re lost.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t win elections by stating your core beliefs and illustrating how the differ from the other guy, then you don&#8217;t deserve to win elections.  Lots and lots of people think the US is off track right now.  I believe the Dems can win if they run a core values kind of campaign and state exactly what separates them from the GOPers and what they would do to get the country back on track.  They need a broad based approach.  They&#8217;ll never win basing campaigns on single issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/14/not-getting-it/#comment-36435</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not just Bush&#039;s &quot;good week&quot; (I, and the polls, don&#039;t think it&#039;s been that good for him), its the continued Democratic incapability to capitalize on &lt;em&gt;anything&lt;/em&gt;. Don&#039;t you think I want to write about Democrats kicking ass and taking names? But they aren&#039;t. They&#039;re whimpering at best, losers at worst.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just Bush&#8217;s &#8220;good week&#8221; (I, and the polls, don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s been that good for him), its the continued Democratic incapability to capitalize on <em>anything</em>. Don&#8217;t you think I want to write about Democrats kicking ass and taking names? But they aren&#8217;t. They&#8217;re whimpering at best, losers at worst.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/14/not-getting-it/#comment-36434</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s why Democrats can&#039;t win:

They believe in

* raising the minimum wage
* ending tax breaks for the wealthy
* fixing medicare specifically and healthcare in general
* education
* getting the fuck out of Iraq
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<p>They believe in</p>
<p>* raising the minimum wage<br />
* ending tax breaks for the wealthy<br />
* fixing medicare specifically and healthcare in general<br />
* education<br />
* getting the fuck out of Iraq</p>
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		<title>By: Bushwacked</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/14/not-getting-it/#comment-36433</link>
		<dc:creator>Bushwacked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post, JK.  The Bush Administration has developed an unbelievable talent for screwing things up so Democrats just need to keep their powder dry.  There is plenty of fodder to use if the dems just have the cahones to speak frankly to the republicans spin.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post, JK.  The Bush Administration has developed an unbelievable talent for screwing things up so Democrats just need to keep their powder dry.  There is plenty of fodder to use if the dems just have the cahones to speak frankly to the republicans spin.</p>
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