Comments on: The Plague Of “It” And The Last Word On “It” http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/the-plague-of-it-and-the-last-word-on-it/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:30:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Bushwacked http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/the-plague-of-it-and-the-last-word-on-it/#comment-36045 Bushwacked Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:06:31 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2157#comment-36045 OK, I'll admit that phrase was humorous, however she could regret the "harpy" comment. I can see a cartoon coming out depicting her with wings and bird legs. OK, I’ll admit that phrase was humorous, however she could regret the “harpy” comment. I can see a cartoon coming out depicting her with wings and bird legs.

]]> By: Frank_D http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/the-plague-of-it-and-the-last-word-on-it/#comment-36044 Frank_D Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:06:57 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2157#comment-36044 I already bought it. The thesis of the book was substantially discussed, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/046508995X/ref=sr_11_1/103-5640816-4491040?%5Fencoding=UTF8" rel="nofollow">on an academic level</a>, years ago, The chapter which includes the piece on the "Jersey Girls" (all three pages of it), contains 47 pages, out of a 281 page book. The thesis of the book is inside the front sleeve. You don't have to buy the book to find what it is. I didn't have to buy the book, or read it, to understand what she was driving, and how true it was. Some of the one - liners in the book, and the quotes by liberals are really funny. And I love laughing at liberals. I already bought it. The thesis of the book was substantially discussed, on an academic level, years ago,
The chapter which includes the piece on the “Jersey Girls” (all three pages of it), contains 47 pages, out of a 281 page book.
The thesis of the book is inside the front sleeve. You don’t have to buy the book to find what it is.
I didn’t have to buy the book, or read it, to understand what she was driving, and how true it was.
Some of the one – liners in the book, and the quotes by liberals are really funny.
And I love laughing at liberals.

]]> By: Frank_D http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/the-plague-of-it-and-the-last-word-on-it/#comment-36043 Frank_D Mon, 12 Jun 2006 01:06:22 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2157#comment-36043 How's this? (Referring to the use of radiocarbon dating to uncover the 'Piltdown Man' hoax): <blockquote><i>Yes, the same process that recently helped us pin down the exact year of Helen Thomas' birth also determined that the Piltdown Man's skull was from a thousand - year - old human fossil and the jaw from a modern orangutan</i></blockquote> Don't tell me you didn't chuckle, a little bit. How’s this? (Referring to the use of radiocarbon dating to uncover the ‘Piltdown Man’ hoax):

Yes, the same process that recently helped us pin down the exact year of Helen Thomas’ birth also determined that the Piltdown Man’s skull was from a thousand – year – old human fossil and the jaw from a modern orangutan

Don’t tell me you didn’t chuckle, a little bit.

]]> By: buma http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/the-plague-of-it-and-the-last-word-on-it/#comment-36042 buma Sun, 11 Jun 2006 23:06:05 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2157#comment-36042 Hey wingers: Does Ann speak for you and your party? Are you going to buy her great new book? Hey wingers:
Does Ann speak for you and your party? Are you going to buy her great new book?

]]> By: Frank_D http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/the-plague-of-it-and-the-last-word-on-it/#comment-36041 Frank_D Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:06:35 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2157#comment-36041 As to Ann herself, for some reason, I was watching the interview with my "therapist's cap" on, and I noticed several unusual things: She laughed a lot, but in an "uncomfortable" way, sort of a "heh, heh", like a chuckle. I interpreted it as, "I'm not sure if you're going to take this properly, but I've got to say it anyway." There was an extremely awkward moment, when Casich said, "Ann, I told my wife you were going to be on the show, and she said, 'I usually agree with Ann, but why is she so mean?'" Now, my reaction would have been diplomatic, an attempt to ameliorate the situation. Hers was, "Well, {chuckle} has she read the book?" In other words, there was no attempt to personalize the situation -- restore a friendly relationship with John. As to Ann herself, for some reason, I was watching the interview with my “therapist’s cap” on, and I noticed several unusual things: She laughed a lot, but in an “uncomfortable” way, sort of a “heh, heh”, like a chuckle. I interpreted it as, “I’m not sure if you’re going to take this properly, but I’ve got to say it anyway.”
There was an extremely awkward moment, when Casich said, “Ann, I told my wife you were going to be on the show, and she said, ‘I usually agree with Ann, but why is she so mean?’”
Now, my reaction would have been diplomatic, an attempt to ameliorate the situation.
Hers was, “Well, {chuckle} has she read the book?”
In other words, there was no attempt to personalize the situation — restore a friendly relationship with John.

]]> By: Frank_D http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/the-plague-of-it-and-the-last-word-on-it/#comment-36040 Frank_D Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:06:17 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2157#comment-36040 Finally, and I've seen this for a while, I think she "gets on a roll", and becomes more and more reckless, and less and less diplomatic, much in the way that people begin to embellish on a story, in direct relation to the approval of the audience, however small or large. There is something a little off, but not terribly serious. For example, she would never admit what I believe to be true: That whether or not these controversial "landmines" are planted consciously or unconsciously, she would never back down, as long as it sells books. On the other hand, if apologizing would boost sales, she would apologize in a heartbeat. There's a saying: "When people say 'It's not the money, it's the principle;' it's the money." Finally, and I’ve seen this for a while, I think she “gets on a roll”, and becomes more and more reckless, and less and less diplomatic, much in the way that people begin to embellish on a story, in direct relation to the approval of the audience, however small or large.
There is something a little off, but not terribly serious. For example, she would never admit what I believe to be true: That whether or not these controversial “landmines” are planted consciously or unconsciously, she would never back down, as long as it sells books.
On the other hand, if apologizing would boost sales, she would apologize in a heartbeat.
There’s a saying: “When people say ‘It’s not the money, it’s the principle;’ it’s the money.”

]]> By: Frank_D http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/the-plague-of-it-and-the-last-word-on-it/#comment-36039 Frank_D Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:06:17 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2157#comment-36039 I think there is something wrong with Ann Coulter. I was up late last night and saw a re - broadcast of John Casich's <i>Heartland</i>. He announced that he would be talking to her about the book, which I had begun to read yesterday morning. I had jumped to the "offending passage" immediately, and found it unduly harsh, but no less offensive than the attitude of the "Jersey Girls" towards President Bush, Condi Rice, et. al. Sure, it's not nice to say widows were happy their husbands were dead, but her point in the chapter concerned the Democratic "uses of righteous indignation," so it was more about the ability to be indignant, and perhaps "satisfied" would have been a better word. I think there is something wrong with Ann Coulter.
I was up late last night and saw a re – broadcast of John Casich’s Heartland. He announced that he would be talking to her about the book, which I had begun to read yesterday morning. I had jumped to the “offending passage” immediately, and found it unduly harsh, but no less offensive than the attitude of the “Jersey Girls” towards President Bush, Condi Rice, et. al.
Sure, it’s not nice to say widows were happy their husbands were dead, but her point in the chapter concerned the Democratic “uses of righteous indignation,” so it was more about the ability to be indignant, and perhaps “satisfied” would have been a better word.

]]> By: duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/the-plague-of-it-and-the-last-word-on-it/#comment-36038 duros62 Sat, 10 Jun 2006 19:06:50 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2157#comment-36038 <a href="http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/2006/06/hope_she_gets_s.html#comments" rel="nofollow">This is an interesting viewpoint.</a> Some of you are clinicians, therapists, etc. Speaking from a clinical standpoint, would you admit that AC is a little unstable at this point? and if I shouldn't take her seriously, why does she keep talking? (Frank, you're point about calling AC "It" is well-taken. Doesn't change my view that she is a repugnant human being.) This is an interesting viewpoint.
Some of you are clinicians, therapists, etc. Speaking from a clinical standpoint, would you admit that AC is a little unstable at this point?
and if I shouldn’t take her seriously, why does she keep talking?
(Frank, you’re point about calling AC “It” is well-taken. Doesn’t change my view that she is a repugnant human being.)

]]> By: Frank_D http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/the-plague-of-it-and-the-last-word-on-it/#comment-36037 Frank_D Sat, 10 Jun 2006 18:06:34 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2157#comment-36037 My copy arrived today. Thanks, Oliver, for the reminder. My copy arrived today. Thanks, Oliver, for the reminder.

]]> By: Frank_D http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/the-plague-of-it-and-the-last-word-on-it/#comment-36036 Frank_D Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:06:37 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2157#comment-36036 Maybe the point is not to take anything either of them says too seriously. AC isn't exactly WFB, Jr., and yet he can be funny, too. Maybe the point is not to take anything either of them says too seriously. AC isn’t exactly WFB, Jr., and yet he can be funny, too.

]]> By: Bushwacked http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/the-plague-of-it-and-the-last-word-on-it/#comment-36035 Bushwacked Sat, 10 Jun 2006 01:06:13 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2157#comment-36035 AC was entertaining when she was on Politically Incorrect opposite Bill Mahr as they seemed to work well together as opposite views. Maybe it was because she didn't seem as offensive then. JR always struck me as just a nut case, but I guess that's part of her schtick. How can anyone take something she says seriously? AC was entertaining when she was on Politically Incorrect opposite Bill Mahr as they seemed to work well together as opposite views. Maybe it was because she didn’t seem as offensive then.
JR always struck me as just a nut case, but I guess that’s part of her schtick. How can anyone take something she says seriously?

]]> By: Frank_D http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/the-plague-of-it-and-the-last-word-on-it/#comment-36034 Frank_D Fri, 09 Jun 2006 23:06:55 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2157#comment-36034 First of all, calling her "It" is neither efficacious, edifying, nor amusing. Second of all, my point was that Joan Rivers and Ann Coulter amuse for the same reason -- they don't care who they "crack" on. And, their looks don't matter. I don't think AC is pretty -- mildly attractive, but that's about it. 5 or 6 surgeries ago, JR was prettier than AC. First of all, calling her “It” is neither efficacious, edifying, nor amusing.
Second of all, my point was that Joan Rivers and Ann Coulter amuse for the same reason — they don’t care who they “crack” on. And, their looks don’t matter.
I don’t think AC is pretty — mildly attractive, but that’s about it.
5 or 6 surgeries ago, JR was prettier than AC.

]]> By: duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/the-plague-of-it-and-the-last-word-on-it/#comment-36033 duros62 Fri, 09 Jun 2006 20:06:05 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2157#comment-36033 The difference, Frank, in case it has slipped by everyone here, is that Joan rivers is a comedian and entertainer (sic). Ann Coulter is not. It is supposed to be a political commentator, but instead resorts to slime and smear to get her rabid points across. Even if It were a comedian, It wouldn't be funny. The difference, Frank, in case it has slipped by everyone here, is that Joan rivers is a comedian and entertainer (sic). Ann Coulter is not. It is supposed to be a political commentator, but instead resorts to slime and smear to get her rabid points across.
Even if It were a comedian, It wouldn’t be funny.

]]> By: Frank_D http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/the-plague-of-it-and-the-last-word-on-it/#comment-36032 Frank_D Fri, 09 Jun 2006 19:06:59 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2157#comment-36032 wishful thinking, buma... Joan Rivers is about a hundred years old { ;) }, and she still cracks me up on the red carpet. What makes you think AC'll never get married, or, better yet, what if it turns out she's gay, and just happens to oppose gay marriage. wishful thinking, buma…
Joan Rivers is about a hundred years old { ;) }, and she still cracks me up on the red carpet.
What makes you think AC’ll never get married, or, better yet, what if it turns out she’s gay, and just happens to oppose gay marriage.

]]> By: buma http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/the-plague-of-it-and-the-last-word-on-it/#comment-36031 buma Fri, 09 Jun 2006 02:06:17 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2157#comment-36031 ann coulter will become less of a factor as she ages and becomes less telegenic. A wrinkled crone spouting her hate of liberals will begin to look like a bitter old maid. This woman has little credibility speaking out against gay marriage when she has not committed to the institution herself. ann coulter will become less of a factor as she ages and becomes less telegenic. A wrinkled crone spouting her hate of liberals will begin to look like a bitter old maid. This woman has little credibility speaking out against gay marriage when she has not committed to the institution herself.

]]> By: Bushwacked http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/the-plague-of-it-and-the-last-word-on-it/#comment-36030 Bushwacked Fri, 09 Jun 2006 00:06:46 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2157#comment-36030 Maybe Ann is simply taking a cue from Oliver and playing to win. She is doing it the republican way - slander and lies. But if that's fine with you guys, it really doesn't matter to me. I dont buy her books or waste time listening to her squak. Maybe Ann is simply taking a cue from Oliver and playing to win.

She is doing it the republican way – slander and lies. But if that’s fine with you guys, it really doesn’t matter to me. I dont buy her books or waste time listening to her squak.

]]> By: deets http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/the-plague-of-it-and-the-last-word-on-it/#comment-36029 deets Thu, 08 Jun 2006 20:06:20 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2157#comment-36029 Pedro- how can you say that we need emotional window dressings to cram our ideas down anybodys throats? its not an "us vs. them" argument. we arent the minority anymore. the majority of the counrty is against the war now. we dont need to , nor have we ever, crammed cindy sheehan down anybody's throat. plus, i guess i missed the memo that said that the bush administrations lies that led us into war were actually rational. damn, you forget to watch fox news one day and your out of the loop. Pedro-

how can you say that we need emotional window dressings to cram our ideas down anybodys throats? its not an “us vs. them” argument. we arent the minority anymore. the majority of the counrty is against the war now. we dont need to , nor have we ever, crammed cindy sheehan down anybody’s throat. plus, i guess i missed the memo that said that the bush administrations lies that led us into war were actually rational. damn, you forget to watch fox news one day and your out of the loop.

]]> By: TomY http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/the-plague-of-it-and-the-last-word-on-it/#comment-36028 TomY Thu, 08 Jun 2006 18:06:48 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2157#comment-36028 Mike, the reason liberals have promoted advocates with personal ties to these issues (take Sheehan as an example) is from a misguided belief that Republicans have too much decency to go after them personally. Of course, we all know that the GOP's go-to tactic in every election or contest of ideas is to smear them personally, and it hasn't stopped them from doing it to Kerry, Sheehan, these widows, McCain when it suited them, ad nauseum. The funny thing is that you still hear people like you, Mike, complaining about how these spokesmen are untouchable. Obviously, they aren't, when Michelle Malking and her ilk get to call Kerry a coward and traitor who fabircated his medals, or say that the widows enjoyed their husbands' deaths. So what are you complaining about, Mike? You got your bloody cake and ate it too. Mike, the reason liberals have promoted advocates with personal ties to these issues (take Sheehan as an example) is from a misguided belief that Republicans have too much decency to go after them personally. Of course, we all know that the GOP’s go-to tactic in every election or contest of ideas is to smear them personally, and it hasn’t stopped them from doing it to Kerry, Sheehan, these widows, McCain when it suited them, ad nauseum. The funny thing is that you still hear people like you, Mike, complaining about how these spokesmen are untouchable. Obviously, they aren’t, when Michelle Malking and her ilk get to call Kerry a coward and traitor who fabircated his medals, or say that the widows enjoyed their husbands’ deaths. So what are you complaining about, Mike? You got your bloody cake and ate it too.

]]> By: TomY http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/the-plague-of-it-and-the-last-word-on-it/#comment-36027 TomY Thu, 08 Jun 2006 18:06:41 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2157#comment-36027 No rational arguments, huh? Should be easy to prove, then. First tell us who exactly you're talking about, then show they've made no appeals on the basis of reason. Unless, of course, you're just lying again to score an "emotionally true" point. No rational arguments, huh? Should be easy to prove, then. First tell us who exactly you’re talking about, then show they’ve made no appeals on the basis of reason. Unless, of course, you’re just lying again to score an “emotionally true” point.

]]> By: TomY http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/the-plague-of-it-and-the-last-word-on-it/#comment-36026 TomY Thu, 08 Jun 2006 18:06:27 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=2157#comment-36026 If only Republicans had the moral restraint to confine themselves to Sheehan's and the widows' arguments. What world are you living in, Mike? Arguments have nothing to do with American politics. It's all competing narratives these days, and whatever party offers the most self-congratulatory one tends to win. These days happens to be the "vote for me and you're a courageous freedom lover" party. If only Republicans had the moral restraint to confine themselves to Sheehan’s and the widows’ arguments. What world are you living in, Mike? Arguments have nothing to do with American politics. It’s all competing narratives these days, and whatever party offers the most self-congratulatory one tends to win. These days happens to be the “vote for me and you’re a courageous freedom lover” party.

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