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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/for-the-record-2/#comment-36158</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rheinhard asked:

&lt;blockquote&gt;So, if a smaller liberal commenter who perhaps did their political blog as a side occupation and wished to remain anonymous but was outed and relentless harrased, that s cool then, right?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You know, while blogs do allow for anonymous commenting, and one of the regular writers (not just a cmooenter, but someone with post origination privileges) on my site does post under a pseudonym, it seems to me that anyone who posts anything in a public forum had better be prepared for the fact that anonymity is not guaranteed.

I do give credit to Mr Willis for publishing under his real name -- if only he&#039;d take down that ugly picture!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rheinhard asked:</p>
<blockquote><p>So, if a smaller liberal commenter who perhaps did their political blog as a side occupation and wished to remain anonymous but was outed and relentless harrased, that s cool then, right?</p></blockquote>
<p>You know, while blogs do allow for anonymous commenting, and one of the regular writers (not just a cmooenter, but someone with post origination privileges) on my site does post under a pseudonym, it seems to me that anyone who posts anything in a public forum had better be prepared for the fact that anonymity is not guaranteed.</p>
<p>I do give credit to Mr Willis for publishing under his real name &#8212; if only he&#8217;d take down that ugly picture!</p>
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		<title>By: factcheck</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/for-the-record-2/#comment-36157</link>
		<dc:creator>factcheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 20:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right duros, but I thought the country was implied.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right duros, but I thought the country was implied.</p>
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		<title>By: duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/for-the-record-2/#comment-36156</link>
		<dc:creator>duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 19:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Dr  Pee
666 Quack Lane
Fugasy, Texas 77777

You forgot the country; The People&#039;s Free Republic of Asshatistan
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Dr  Pee<br />
666 Quack Lane<br />
Fugasy, Texas 77777</p>
<p>You forgot the country; The People&#8217;s Free Republic of Asshatistan</p>
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		<title>By: factcheck</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/for-the-record-2/#comment-36155</link>
		<dc:creator>factcheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 18:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll post it frame:

&quot;Dr&quot; Pee
666 Quack Lane
Fugasy, Texas 77777

Now I don&#039;t encourage death threats.  But use this address how you wish /snark
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll post it frame:</p>
<p>&#8220;Dr&#8221; Pee<br />
666 Quack Lane<br />
Fugasy, Texas 77777</p>
<p>Now I don&#8217;t encourage death threats.  But use this address how you wish /snark</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/for-the-record-2/#comment-36154</link>
		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 16:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How posting the address of an idiot doctor? No big deal?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How posting the address of an idiot doctor? No big deal?</p>
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		<title>By: Cyrus the Virus</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/for-the-record-2/#comment-36153</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyrus the Virus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 15:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While most of Oliver&#039;s post was pretty much bullshit, especially the whole &quot;us liberals try so hard to be nice, but  big mean conservatives make us stoop to their level&quot;, that whole online integrity thing really is pretty lame and pointless.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While most of Oliver&#8217;s post was pretty much bullshit, especially the whole &#8220;us liberals try so hard to be nice, but  big mean conservatives make us stoop to their level&#8221;, that whole online integrity thing really is pretty lame and pointless.</p>
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		<title>By: August J. Pollak</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/for-the-record-2/#comment-36152</link>
		<dc:creator>August J. Pollak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 15:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trevino&#039;s hard at work telling everyone to disavow NRO after the Armando incident as well, I assume?

Amazing how a campaign called &quot;online integrity&quot; can&#039;t manage to find... integrity. And here we all were thinking Trevino actually meant it or something...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trevino&#8217;s hard at work telling everyone to disavow NRO after the Armando incident as well, I assume?</p>
<p>Amazing how a campaign called &#8220;online integrity&#8221; can&#8217;t manage to find&#8230; integrity. And here we all were thinking Trevino actually meant it or something&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/for-the-record-2/#comment-36151</link>
		<dc:creator>drpedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 14:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how do you know?

The people posting the info were the the FreeRepublic....FR is who took the information DOWN.

Some individual posted about a bartender.  And that is the equivalent of posting the address of a nationally syndicated columnist?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how do you know?</p>
<p>The people posting the info were the the FreeRepublic&#8230;.FR is who took the information DOWN.</p>
<p>Some individual posted about a bartender.  And that is the equivalent of posting the address of a nationally syndicated columnist?</p>
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		<title>By: Rheinhard</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/for-the-record-2/#comment-36150</link>
		<dc:creator>Rheinhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 14:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; So, if a smaller liberal commenter who perhaps did their political blog as a side occupation and wished to remain anonymous but was outed and relentless harrased, that s cool then, right

Right. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, OK then.

What about a sort of weighted equivalence.  Would 3 lesser, sane mortals be equivalent to one Magalang?  Five?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> So, if a smaller liberal commenter who perhaps did their political blog as a side occupation and wished to remain anonymous but was outed and relentless harrased, that s cool then, right</p>
<p>Right. </p></blockquote>
<p>Well, OK then.</p>
<p>What about a sort of weighted equivalence.  Would 3 lesser, sane mortals be equivalent to one Magalang?  Five?</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/for-the-record-2/#comment-36149</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 08:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freerepublic is &quot;small time&quot;? And the only reason the Freepers pulled it was because they got some bad pub.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freerepublic is &#8220;small time&#8221;? And the only reason the Freepers pulled it was because they got some bad pub.</p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/for-the-record-2/#comment-36148</link>
		<dc:creator>drpedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 05:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait a second, just a thread or two back you were saying small time bloggers didn&#039;t count, right?

But here was the most telling part of the single reference...

&lt;b&gt;Freerepublic.com Web site&#039;s sysop pulled some of the information as it was called to his attention &lt;/b&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a second, just a thread or two back you were saying small time bloggers didn&#8217;t count, right?</p>
<p>But here was the most telling part of the single reference&#8230;</p>
<p><b>Freerepublic.com Web site&#8217;s sysop pulled some of the information as it was called to his attention </b></p>
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		<title>By: doug r</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/for-the-record-2/#comment-36147</link>
		<dc:creator>doug r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 05:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, OJ is searching golf courses worldwide for the &quot;real killers&quot;...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, OJ is searching golf courses worldwide for the &#8220;real killers&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/for-the-record-2/#comment-36146</link>
		<dc:creator>drpedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 05:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So, if a smaller liberal commenter who perhaps did their political blog as a side occupation and wished to remain anonymous but was outed and relentless harrased, that s cool then, right&quot;

Right.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So, if a smaller liberal commenter who perhaps did their political blog as a side occupation and wished to remain anonymous but was outed and relentless harrased, that s cool then, right&#8221;</p>
<p>Right.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/for-the-record-2/#comment-36145</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 04:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For reference this is what went down &lt;a href=&quot;http://archive.salon.com/politics/red/2001/06/06/blue/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;on Free Republic&lt;/a&gt; when the Bush twins got busted for underage drinkings
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For reference this is what went down <a href="http://archive.salon.com/politics/red/2001/06/06/blue/index.html" rel="nofollow">on Free Republic</a> when the Bush twins got busted for underage drinkings</p>
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		<title>By: Jadegold</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/for-the-record-2/#comment-36144</link>
		<dc:creator>Jadegold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 04:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Dr&quot; P&#039;s been hitting the pipe, again.

&lt;i&gt;I mean big name liberals on par with Malkin &lt;/i&gt;

This isn&#039;t about &quot;name&quot; or readership or favorite football teams.  It&#039;s about Maglalang deliberately trying to intimidate some liberal commenters.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Dr&#8221; P&#8217;s been hitting the pipe, again.</p>
<p><i>I mean big name liberals on par with Malkin </i></p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t about &#8220;name&#8221; or readership or favorite football teams.  It&#8217;s about Maglalang deliberately trying to intimidate some liberal commenters.</p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/for-the-record-2/#comment-36143</link>
		<dc:creator>drpedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 03:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is what I would like to see:  Show me the addresses of liberals that were published by conservatives.....I mean big name liberals on par with Malkin
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is what I would like to see:  Show me the addresses of liberals that were published by conservatives&#8230;..I mean big name liberals on par with Malkin</p>
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		<title>By: Rheinhard</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/for-the-record-2/#comment-36142</link>
		<dc:creator>Rheinhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 03:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I mean big name liberals on par with Malkin &quot;

So, if a smaller liberal commenter who perhaps did their political blog as a side occupation and wished to remain anonymous but was outed and relentless harrased, that&#039;s cool then, right?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I mean big name liberals on par with Malkin &#8221;</p>
<p>So, if a smaller liberal commenter who perhaps did their political blog as a side occupation and wished to remain anonymous but was outed and relentless harrased, that&#8217;s cool then, right?</p>
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		<title>By: JWG</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/for-the-record-2/#comment-36141</link>
		<dc:creator>JWG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 02:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It s time liberals understood that conservatives don t believe values apply to them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Whether or not this is true doesn&#039;t change the fact that Oliver advocates playing dirty. How can you complain about conservatives if you&#039;re going to support OW&#039;s position? Do you believe values apply to liberals like Oliver?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It s time liberals understood that conservatives don t believe values apply to them.</p></blockquote>
<p>Whether or not this is true doesn&#8217;t change the fact that Oliver advocates playing dirty. How can you complain about conservatives if you&#8217;re going to support OW&#8217;s position? Do you believe values apply to liberals like Oliver?</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/for-the-record-2/#comment-36140</link>
		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 02:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of us, including myself, have had the same &quot;schtick&quot; for years.

Call me an idealist, but sooner or later, some gifted soul, on the blogosphere, news, or print media, is going to have a &quot;Thomas Paine&quot; moment.

And it will all change.

JK
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of us, including myself, have had the same &#8220;schtick&#8221; for years.</p>
<p>Call me an idealist, but sooner or later, some gifted soul, on the blogosphere, news, or print media, is going to have a &#8220;Thomas Paine&#8221; moment.</p>
<p>And it will all change.</p>
<p>JK</p>
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		<title>By: Bill L.</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/06/08/for-the-record-2/#comment-36139</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 02:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we need a common dictionary for these discussions, because I tend to think of a &quot;smear&quot; as deliberately distorting or outright fabricating information about an opponent with the intention of undermining their credibility.

For others, the &quot;steady as a rock and twice as smart crowd,&quot; to &quot;smear&quot; someone all you have to do is point out their past behavior without even the slightest shred of embellishment.  Well, assuming its a liberal &quot;smearing&quot; a wingnut, naturally.  I always assumed that was called &quot;reality&quot; as supported by the &quot;facts.&quot;  Whoops, my bad.

And how is a one line comment with a link to a story and the &quot;smear-ee&quot;(eh, you get the idea), who really is more qualified to debate the matter, &quot;a new low?&quot;

In the horse race for goofiest kool aid guzzler, I had originally pegged Pedro to win, with who would &quot;place&quot; and &quot;show&quot; being much more heated contests.  Damned if I don&#039;t come across a new post every five minutes that doesn&#039;t make me want to change my bets.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we need a common dictionary for these discussions, because I tend to think of a &#8220;smear&#8221; as deliberately distorting or outright fabricating information about an opponent with the intention of undermining their credibility.</p>
<p>For others, the &#8220;steady as a rock and twice as smart crowd,&#8221; to &#8220;smear&#8221; someone all you have to do is point out their past behavior without even the slightest shred of embellishment.  Well, assuming its a liberal &#8220;smearing&#8221; a wingnut, naturally.  I always assumed that was called &#8220;reality&#8221; as supported by the &#8220;facts.&#8221;  Whoops, my bad.</p>
<p>And how is a one line comment with a link to a story and the &#8220;smear-ee&#8221;(eh, you get the idea), who really is more qualified to debate the matter, &#8220;a new low?&#8221;</p>
<p>In the horse race for goofiest kool aid guzzler, I had originally pegged Pedro to win, with who would &#8220;place&#8221; and &#8220;show&#8221; being much more heated contests.  Damned if I don&#8217;t come across a new post every five minutes that doesn&#8217;t make me want to change my bets.</p>
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