Comments on: Please Explain

By: drpedro

drpedro — Tue, 06 Jun 2006 19:06:21 +0000

zython pops up with a big ole’ “but(t)” pretty quickly there eh?

“sure, many journalists say* they re democrats, but…..”

shorter: “I’m an idiot, BUT…BUT…BUT!”

By: Dugger

Dugger — Mon, 05 Jun 2006 23:06:26 +0000

“The MSM hasn t been liberal in 30 years, you jackass, get over it.”

Right you are. I separate left wing agenda-driven news ‘reporting’ from ‘liberal’.

“Why exactly the media feels that demanding accountability, oversight, and common sense leadership – as prescribed by the constitution – is now only the domain of leftism? ”

Hmmm. Who said this?

Dugger

By: Zython

Zython — Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:06:40 +0000

Leave it to Farris to be only able to read each individual word and not full sentences. Here’s a clip from said article.

Many outside-the-Beltway Democrats want the party to turn forcefully against the war in Iraq and to investigate, censure or even impeach President Bush should the party win control of Congress this fall.

Maybe it’s just me, but investegations, censurings, and impeachments sound like forms of accountability to me.

By: Zython

Zython — Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:06:15 +0000

Oh, almost forgot. drpedro, sure, many journalists say* they’re democrats, but what about the people on top? The editors? These are the people that decide in the end what goes in and what doesn’t.

*Don’t forget, Bill O’Riley says he’s an independent, but…well…you know where I’m going with this.

On the other hand, you’ll probably ignore this post, just like you did in “The Premise is Simply Invalid”.

By: BD

BD — Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:06:37 +0000

Funny thing, Farris, is that it might be possible to get both accountability and “payback” in the same set of actions. The two are not, in fact, mutually exclusive, as you would imply.

By: SaveFarris

SaveFarris — Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:06:08 +0000

Actually Dugger the article was about Dems using subpeona power and oversight

Nope. Sorry.

What you say the article is about: “demanding accountability, oversight, and common sense leadership” Except there’s one small problem. NONE of those words appear in the article. It also clearly implies that Bush has already been tried & convicted in Lefty minds and Dem ascendency would lead directly to impeachment.

Leftists don’t want “accountability”. They want payback.

By: drpedro

drpedro — Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:06:07 +0000

Journalist are more than twice as likely to state they are democrats vs republicans. Further, journalist are state they are republicans at one-half the rate the general population does. http://www.poynter.org/content/content_view.asp?id=28808 Perhaps "liberal" doesn't equal "democrat" in your book wolfie, but it sure as hell leans more to the left than to the right.

By: Oliver Willis

Oliver Willis — Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:06:44 +0000

Actually Dugger the article was about Dems using subpeona power and oversight if/when they regain the majority and how this was all of a sudden a “leftist” position.

By: qkslvr_wolf

qkslvr_wolf — Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:06:05 +0000

Not to mention its not between liberals and fanatics, but between moderates and liberals.

And the threatening point above is accurate.

The “MSM” hasn’t been liberal in 30 years, you jackass, get over it.

By: Dugger

Dugger — Mon, 05 Jun 2006 18:06:39 +0000

The MSM is overwhelmingly leftist. And did you read the article? Where was there anything about demanding accountability etc. it describes the divide between liberals and leftist fanatics. Perhaps those are your words to describe the far left position on Iraq – which to most us means withdrawing right away or on a strict timetable. Which is interesting since, per that definition, even Al Gore does not support accountability etc. Could Gore, too, now become a non person – along with Lieberman, and Hillary?

Dugger

By: Rheinhard

Rheinhard — Mon, 05 Jun 2006 18:06:19 +0000

Everything you need to know about this piece is encapsulated in the word choice in the first sentence:

Anti-war and anti-Bush fervor is growing among rank and file Democrats, threatening to pull the party to the left and creating a rift between increasingly belligerent activists and the party’s leaders in Washington.

You see the narrative? Any effort on the left side of the party is “threatening”. When was the last time there was an article anywhere suggesting the activities of the James Dobson and Pat Robertson religious whackos, or the Grover Norquist “we should drown government in the bathtub” laissez-faire zealots where “threatening” to pull the Republican party to the right?

By: mr.curmudgeon

mr.curmudgeon — Mon, 05 Jun 2006 16:06:04 +0000

Because it always has been. When the media actually *was* “leftist” (as opposed to corporate/conservatively dominated, like it is now), I think there was a greater obligation to inform the people, rather than placate them. (Can you hear Edward R. Murrow spinning in his grave?)

The right has a stranglehold on these talking heads, and they’ll spew whatever filth necessary to keep the money-train humming. Accountability be damned.