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	<title>Comments on: Low, Even For Bill O&#8217;Reilly</title>
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		<title>By: (: Tom :)</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/24/low-even-for-bill-oreilly/#comment-34805</link>
		<dc:creator>(: Tom :)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2006 20:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank: your comments are always filtered through the &lt;i&gt;Putsch spin ---&gt; English&lt;/i&gt; translator.  It&#039;s the only way they can be understood.  And possibly you should check the mirror when you talk about unclear comments and/or being drunk when they are written.

So I can understand it when you try to make an apples-to-apples comparison between a conservative talk show host publicly punking a high school kid, and OW linking to some publicly available material from TV broadcasts which shows how much of an idiot one of the Bushes was on camera.  And I&#039;m trying to point out that you are being somewhat of a liar when you say if it was bad for one, it is bad for the other - because it wasn&#039;t OW who went on TV and made false statements about pierced putsch in your example.  It wasn&#039;t anybody who went on TV and made false statements about pierce - OW&#039;s clip is of pierce himself making a fool of himself.

If you were to compare O&#039;Reilly to Limbaugh, you would be making a valid comparison.  They both made up stuff about high school kids in order to make fun of them on national TV.  If there was a liberal TV talk show host who made up crap about a high school student in order to smear him/her and label him/her as an &lt;i&gt;eeeevul conservative&lt;/i&gt; (the way O&#039;Reilly smeared and labeled this kid as an &lt;i&gt;eeeeeevul librul&lt;/i&gt;), and you pointed to that as a comparison to what O&#039;Reilly did, you might have a valid argument.  But what you did was no more than a cheap smear tactic against OW.  Standard practice for Repugnicants these days...

Plus, these comments are more to point out the standard Publican hypocrisy, lies, debate deflection, and smear tactics that Publicans engage in these days.  Your comment is a classic example of that sort of thing IMHO and I wanted to point that out.

Not that I think you&#039;ll listen to anything I have to say anyway.  Or that you care one way or the other.  You haven&#039;t so far - why would things change now?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank: your comments are always filtered through the <i>Putsch spin &#8212;> English</i> translator.  It&#8217;s the only way they can be understood.  And possibly you should check the mirror when you talk about unclear comments and/or being drunk when they are written.</p>
<p>So I can understand it when you try to make an apples-to-apples comparison between a conservative talk show host publicly punking a high school kid, and OW linking to some publicly available material from TV broadcasts which shows how much of an idiot one of the Bushes was on camera.  And I&#8217;m trying to point out that you are being somewhat of a liar when you say if it was bad for one, it is bad for the other &#8211; because it wasn&#8217;t OW who went on TV and made false statements about pierced putsch in your example.  It wasn&#8217;t anybody who went on TV and made false statements about pierce &#8211; OW&#8217;s clip is of pierce himself making a fool of himself.</p>
<p>If you were to compare O&#8217;Reilly to Limbaugh, you would be making a valid comparison.  They both made up stuff about high school kids in order to make fun of them on national TV.  If there was a liberal TV talk show host who made up crap about a high school student in order to smear him/her and label him/her as an <i>eeeevul conservative</i> (the way O&#8217;Reilly smeared and labeled this kid as an <i>eeeeeevul librul</i>), and you pointed to that as a comparison to what O&#8217;Reilly did, you might have a valid argument.  But what you did was no more than a cheap smear tactic against OW.  Standard practice for Repugnicants these days&#8230;</p>
<p>Plus, these comments are more to point out the standard Publican hypocrisy, lies, debate deflection, and smear tactics that Publicans engage in these days.  Your comment is a classic example of that sort of thing IMHO and I wanted to point that out.</p>
<p>Not that I think you&#8217;ll listen to anything I have to say anyway.  Or that you care one way or the other.  You haven&#8217;t so far &#8211; why would things change now?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/24/low-even-for-bill-oreilly/#comment-34804</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2006 20:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you could spare me the childish code, I might have some idea what you&#039;re driving at.
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		<title>By: Hattie</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/24/low-even-for-bill-oreilly/#comment-34803</link>
		<dc:creator>Hattie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2006 19:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t the Bush gas tax something else?
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/24/low-even-for-bill-oreilly/#comment-34802</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2006 18:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom: Your comments should come with a Tom - English translator.

(Or you need to wait a few hours before you start drinking)

What the hell are you talking about?

Do I really want to know?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom: Your comments should come with a Tom &#8211; English translator.</p>
<p>(Or you need to wait a few hours before you start drinking)</p>
<p>What the hell are you talking about?</p>
<p>Do I really want to know?</p>
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		<title>By: (: Tom :)</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/24/low-even-for-bill-oreilly/#comment-34801</link>
		<dc:creator>(: Tom :)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2006 14:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Almost as total a deflection, Frank, as you posting a clip OW got from a public broadcast to compare to Bill O&#039;&lt;i&gt;Really?&lt;/i&gt; harassing a high school girl (who never appeared in public in the first place).

If O&#039;&lt;i&gt;Really?&lt;/i&gt; had gone after somebody who had publicly made some statements similar to young pierce, you might have half a leg to stand on.

Also, I&#039;m not sure, but I think there might be a slight difference between the harassment of high school girls from prominent Publican media personalities, vs. a (somewhat) liberal blogger putting something together from publicly available footage.

Maybe it&#039;s just me... and everyone else who doesn&#039;t have their head up &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Putsch&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&#039;s a$$.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost as total a deflection, Frank, as you posting a clip OW got from a public broadcast to compare to Bill O&#8217;<i>Really?</i> harassing a high school girl (who never appeared in public in the first place).</p>
<p>If O&#8217;<i>Really?</i> had gone after somebody who had publicly made some statements similar to young pierce, you might have half a leg to stand on.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m not sure, but I think there might be a slight difference between the harassment of high school girls from prominent Publican media personalities, vs. a (somewhat) liberal blogger putting something together from publicly available footage.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just me&#8230; and everyone else who doesn&#8217;t have their head up <b><i>Putsch</i></b>&#8216;s a$$.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/24/low-even-for-bill-oreilly/#comment-34800</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 23:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A total deflection from the point, and the post, Tom.
If it is low for O&#039;Reilly, then it is low for Oliver.
Who said it was OK for Limbaugh?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A total deflection from the point, and the post, Tom.<br />
If it is low for O&#8217;Reilly, then it is low for Oliver.<br />
Who said it was OK for Limbaugh?</p>
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		<title>By: (: Tom :)</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/24/low-even-for-bill-oreilly/#comment-34799</link>
		<dc:creator>(: Tom :)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 21:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D&#039;oh!!

Which was the original point of OW s &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;post&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.

We apologize for the inconvenience.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D&#8217;oh!!</p>
<p>Which was the original point of OW s <b><i>post</i></b>.</p>
<p>We apologize for the inconvenience.</p>
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		<title>By: (: Tom :)</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/24/low-even-for-bill-oreilly/#comment-34798</link>
		<dc:creator>(: Tom :)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 21:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, making fun of a kid is pretty bad.  I wonder what sort of person &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Clinton&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;would do something like that&lt;/a&gt;?

&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;In 1993, when Chelsea was still in braces, Rush Limbaugh said the following: &quot;Everyone knows the Clintons have a cat; Socks is the White House cat. But did you know there is also a White House dog?&quot; He then pointed to a video monitor, which switched to a picture of Chelsea. Although Limbaugh has claimed that it was a technical error, as Al Franken documented in his book Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them, since the show was on a tape delay, if it truly was a technical error, it could have been corrected prior to airing of the show. In addition, the joke would not have made sense if Limbaugh had not intended for Chelsea&#039;s photo to appear on screen, as the White House had no dog. (Buddy did not join the Clinton family until a few years later.)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

Kinda interesting, too - so far the examples are Publicans making fun of high school girls (who never asked to be in the spotlight), and &lt;b&gt;one&lt;/b&gt; Media fluffhead (who I would be calling part of the &lt;i&gt;conservative&lt;/i&gt; media, while you seem to be considering her part of the &lt;i&gt;liberal&lt;/i&gt; media) making fun of  &lt;b&gt;one&lt;/b&gt; 19 year old boy (who just happens to be a relative of the guy occupying the White House right now, &lt;i&gt;who is making a public statement on TV&lt;/i&gt;).

But, hey - if that&#039;s the best you&#039;ve got, well... I know you guys are getting pretty close to the bottom of the barrel these days.

Which was the original point of OW&#039;s point.  So we come full circle once again.  And I&#039;m out...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, making fun of a kid is pretty bad.  I wonder what sort of person <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Clinton" rel="nofollow">would do something like that</a>?</p>
<p><b><i>In 1993, when Chelsea was still in braces, Rush Limbaugh said the following: &#8220;Everyone knows the Clintons have a cat; Socks is the White House cat. But did you know there is also a White House dog?&#8221; He then pointed to a video monitor, which switched to a picture of Chelsea. Although Limbaugh has claimed that it was a technical error, as Al Franken documented in his book Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them, since the show was on a tape delay, if it truly was a technical error, it could have been corrected prior to airing of the show. In addition, the joke would not have made sense if Limbaugh had not intended for Chelsea&#8217;s photo to appear on screen, as the White House had no dog. (Buddy did not join the Clinton family until a few years later.)</i></b></p>
<p>Kinda interesting, too &#8211; so far the examples are Publicans making fun of high school girls (who never asked to be in the spotlight), and <b>one</b> Media fluffhead (who I would be calling part of the <i>conservative</i> media, while you seem to be considering her part of the <i>liberal</i> media) making fun of  <b>one</b> 19 year old boy (who just happens to be a relative of the guy occupying the White House right now, <i>who is making a public statement on TV</i>).</p>
<p>But, hey &#8211; if that&#8217;s the best you&#8217;ve got, well&#8230; I know you guys are getting pretty close to the bottom of the barrel these days.</p>
<p>Which was the original point of OW&#8217;s point.  So we come full circle once again.  And I&#8217;m out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: factcheck</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/24/low-even-for-bill-oreilly/#comment-34797</link>
		<dc:creator>factcheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 14:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, it is, unless you are in the Bush family, then it is under 40.  Youthful indiscretions and all.
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		<title>By: BD</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/24/low-even-for-bill-oreilly/#comment-34796</link>
		<dc:creator>BD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 14:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t 19 legal adulthood?
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/24/low-even-for-bill-oreilly/#comment-34795</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 13:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/03/18/all-hail-pierce-bush/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Making fun of a kid&lt;/a&gt; is so awful.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/03/18/all-hail-pierce-bush/" rel="nofollow">Making fun of a kid</a> is so awful.</p>
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		<title>By: factcheck</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/24/low-even-for-bill-oreilly/#comment-34794</link>
		<dc:creator>factcheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 02:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the hell does that article have to do with anything?

BTW, everywhere I&#039;ve worked, if you speak publically against the management of your company, you are terminated.  Maybe you could tell me what part of the constitution that this ACLU&#039;s proposed action violates.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the hell does that article have to do with anything?</p>
<p>BTW, everywhere I&#8217;ve worked, if you speak publically against the management of your company, you are terminated.  Maybe you could tell me what part of the constitution that this ACLU&#8217;s proposed action violates.</p>
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		<title>By: JWG</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/24/low-even-for-bill-oreilly/#comment-34793</link>
		<dc:creator>JWG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 02:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I really don t understand the hard rights fascination with the ACLU.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Maybe the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/24/us/24aclu.html?ei=5090&amp;en=cd8a5fd1f6941a5d&amp;ex=1306123200&amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;emc=rss&amp;pagewanted=print&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NYT&lt;/a&gt; can explain it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I really don t understand the hard rights fascination with the ACLU.</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/24/us/24aclu.html?ei=5090&#038;en=cd8a5fd1f6941a5d&#038;ex=1306123200&#038;partner=rssuserland&#038;emc=rss&#038;pagewanted=print" rel="nofollow">NYT</a> can explain it.</p>
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		<title>By: duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/24/low-even-for-bill-oreilly/#comment-34792</link>
		<dc:creator>duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 22:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried doing a drinking game where you take a shot every time O&#039;Reilly mentions his name. I had to get my stomach pumped.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried doing a drinking game where you take a shot every time O&#8217;Reilly mentions his name. I had to get my stomach pumped.</p>
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		<title>By: factcheck</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/24/low-even-for-bill-oreilly/#comment-34791</link>
		<dc:creator>factcheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 19:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know what you mean.   Though my choice of food to deposit in O&#039;Really&#039;s lap would be a falafel.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what you mean.   Though my choice of food to deposit in O&#8217;Really&#8217;s lap would be a falafel.</p>
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		<title>By: Hattie</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/24/low-even-for-bill-oreilly/#comment-34790</link>
		<dc:creator>Hattie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 18:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a troll.
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		<title>By: JK</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/24/low-even-for-bill-oreilly/#comment-34789</link>
		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 18:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is starting to occur to me, is that Bill &quot;Give me the Fallafel&quot; O&#039;Reilly&#039;s ratings must be declining. He&#039;s getting his ugly mug inserted into the spotlight at least once a week, by saying something controversial.

Do some of you ever wish that you&#039;d come across these guys in a restaurant? I&#039;d love to &quot;accidentally&quot; drop a bowl of tripe on his head.

JK
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is starting to occur to me, is that Bill &#8220;Give me the Fallafel&#8221; O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s ratings must be declining. He&#8217;s getting his ugly mug inserted into the spotlight at least once a week, by saying something controversial.</p>
<p>Do some of you ever wish that you&#8217;d come across these guys in a restaurant? I&#8217;d love to &#8220;accidentally&#8221; drop a bowl of tripe on his head.</p>
<p>JK</p>
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		<title>By: factcheck</title>
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		<dc:creator>factcheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 17:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t wait until Friday: This will be a good topic on &quot;Wait, wait, don&#039;t lie to me&quot;, Al Franken and Joe Conason&#039;s multiple-Peabody award winning game show.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t wait until Friday: This will be a good topic on &#8220;Wait, wait, don&#8217;t lie to me&#8221;, Al Franken and Joe Conason&#8217;s multiple-Peabody award winning game show.</p>
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		<title>By: factcheck</title>
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		<dc:creator>factcheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 17:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t understand the hard rights fascination with the ACLU.  Why are they against freedom and civil liberties?

They didn&#039;t condemn Rush Limbaugh for enlisting the aid of the ACLU, why attack this girl?
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<p>They didn&#8217;t condemn Rush Limbaugh for enlisting the aid of the ACLU, why attack this girl?</p>
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