This happened literally one block away from my apartment.
The reward in hopes of solving a homicide in Takoma Park, Md., is now up to $5,000.
Investigators said 66-year-old Victor Dao was shot during a robbery last Monday on Flower Avenue.
Police said Dao gave the robbers everything they asked for, but they killed him anyway.
Police returned to the area were Dao was killed Monday night and handed out fliers.
They’re hoping someone will recognize three men caught on a surveillance camera using the victim’s credit card.
This man was killed, for no reason at all. He did what the scumbags told him to, and he was killed anyway.
Makes you think just how precarious life can be- turn right, you face death, turn left, and you’re safe. A real tragedy.
That’s right. If you’re in the wrong place, and the wrong time…. the fragility of life can reveal itself. Horrible story.
People like those who shot this man have no concept of the value of human life.
If you turn on CNN, or Fox…all you hear about is Natalie Holloway. But these kinds of stories happen every single day. Boston, these days, has had an upsurge in murders that it hasn’t seen in years.
I could go on and on about guns….the truth is, some nutcase in Georgia today tried to run over 4 people at a McDonalds with his car. Two of them were kids. Apparently, he had a smile of his face. Guns just make it easier to reach objective A.
It’s the lack of giving a shit about a human life that causes this crap. That is the common denominator. Where does that kind of thinking start, and how do we stop it.
JK
Not to be a dick, but…
Police said Dao gave the robbers everything they asked for, but they killed him anyway.
How do they know what they asked him for? There’s no sound on those surveillance cameras, is there?
you know, if Dao had a gun, maybe HE would be here today, and three goons would be pushing up daisies.
This is one good reason states should have “shall issue” laws. Cops are always saying “just give them what they want”. What if they want to rape your daughter? How do you know if they just want your wallet or if they want to kill you?
If more of these monsters got popped by law-abiding citizens, you might find a lot less crime like this around….
Pedro: shut up. Turning my town into the wild west is not what any of us who live here want.
They know because when the cops came Mr. Dao was still alive, they got the ID for the killers from the victim.
An armed society is a society inches away from anarchy. There’s a reason we evolved from the wild west. I told you to shut up because its beyond cheap to use the senseless death of a man as a hobby horse for even more gunnuttery.
“An Armed Society is a Polite Society”
And on that note, the new season of Deadwood begins Sun June 11th, go and watch, its full of reeeeeal polite armed people.
But then I do have to concede pedro his well thought out point, and say yes, definately and obviously, if Dao had pulled out a gun on three guys who had guns on him, he certainly, clearly, obviously would have survived and everything would be super cool.
Oh hell, furthermore, if muggers realized that more people had guns, then they’d just plain stop their life of crime, get born again, and live happy and fulfilling lives as productive members of the community instead of, oh, say… just shooting the people without bothering to ask nicely first and then robbing them as they lay bleeding, dying on the ground.
Thank you Guns, is there any problem you cant solve?
It s the lack of giving a shit about a human life that causes this crap. That is the common denominator. Where does that kind of thinking start, and how do we stop it?
I wonder.
JK, get a grip for a second. How many times in the last couple of weeks has Oliver taken a case of an assault on an immigrant and used it to villify “the right”, despite the fact that the political persuasion of the perp was never mentioned?
I think Frank’s link was rather silly considering that i highly doubt these thugs sit around saying “hey, since abortion is legal in this country, that must mean i can kill whoever i want”, but your selective outrage over “politicizing” tragedy is rather hollow.
JK,
Come on, be serious for a second. While I think Frank’s link was rather off the mark, since i highly doubt these thugs sit there and say “since we have legal abortion in this country, that must mean it’s ok to kill whomever the hell we please”, it’s not as if Frank and Pedro are the first ones on this site to politicize tradgedy.
In fact, i read the link and it makes no reference to the perps, but believe me, if it turns out the perps were White Supremacists, and since the vic was Asian-American, even though robbery appears to be the motive, I’m sure our dear host will find a way to politicize it.
Come on, in the last two weeks alone, how many times has Oliver linked to stories on assaults on immigrants, and even though it makes no reference to any political affiliation of the perps, decided to blame it on “the right”?
Leave it to Frank and Pedro to be the only ones in this thead trying to politicize this event.
Scum.
JK
Give me the “wild west”….anyday
Drpedro – A man too late for his times.
Jk this is politics of the personal.
Arizona has “shall issue” and open carry laws.
Phoenix violent crime rate is 1.16 x the national average. Baltimores is 2.9x the average.
http://www.cityrating.com/citycrime.asp?city=Baltimore&state=MD
So, would you rather live in a place where your constitutional right to protect yourself exists, or a place where it has been taken away by liberals who have their own bodyguards?
Guns in the well trained hands of citizens are a serious plus.
To get to JK’s original point in his first comment, however, it’s not just national news that desensitizes (if that’s a word) us to violence. Local news might be even worse.
On Sunday night, there was a triple murder here in Philly in the Port Richmond section of the city.
On the local newscast that i watched Monday night (NBC 10), the triple murder got about fifteen seconds of coverage, whereas they had THREE reporters, and about the first ten minutes of the broadcast, dedicated to Barbaro and his ankle. Granted Barbaro was from right outside Philly (at least his owners were), but the coverage was straight out of the Onion or a Saturday Night Live sketch.
Using Drpedro’s site, NYC appears to have an overall violent crime rate virtually identical to Phoenix’s (1.23 times the national average vs. 1.16). Rates for Houston and Dallas (Texas allows concealed handgun permits) are higher, though not as high as Baltimore. This begs for a study (if it hasn’t already been done) of the amount of variance in violent crime rate explained by carry laws.
I should have known this is where this would end up. (Looks at Jay and smiles…Gays, Guns and God. The big three. Remember that one, Jay C?)
This time, it’s Guns.
JSA…there is a book out there by John Lott, “More Guns Less Crime” based on a study funded by the Olin Foundation. That’s the stuff Pedro is probably getting at.
Can you say “conflict of interest?” Most of the people who work in the business I do know that you can’t ignore obvious COI issues, or even the appearance of COI, without managing them.
Can Lott’s research be called into question because he was founded by a foundation that has loose ties with a gun manufacturer? IMO, yes, that’s a reasonable criticism of John Lott.
This whole argument is tired.
Guns are only part of a larger problem.
JK
P.S. By the way…if OW doesn’t want a conceal carry law in D.C., he lives there, his view on this certainly trumps ours.
JK can’t see a connection between a lack of respect for life and abortion on demand, Cyrus concurs because thugs don’t sit around saying hey, since abortion is legal in this country, that must mean i can kill whoever i want
But there has been an increase in shooting everyone at a crime scene, even on videotape, so there won’t be witnesses.
And this has nothing to do with a lack of respect for life.
The best joke of all is that I’m accused of politicizing crime. I ask you, when was the last time Oliver referred to street crime?
It’s is in his neighborhood now. Now it matters.
Get real.
There were roughly 4000 abortions yesterday, but a murder in Oliver’s neighborhood is suddenly important.
Frank, maybe the types of thugs that commit a lot of these crimes are far more enlightened where you live, but speaking as someone who spent seven years with the Philadelphia Police Department, yes, i can say emphatically that abortion on demand has absolutely nothing to do with crimes like the one Oliver linked to.
On another note, it said earlier this morning that my 9:45am comment didn’t go through, now all of a sudden it’s there.
Thanks JK.
I actually don’t think you are going to find a 1:1 relation on concealed carry laws and crime rates…it is much too complex for as simple an answer as that.
Common sense would dictate though that if you were a criminal, you might think twice about robbing someone if there was, say, a thirty percent chance that person was armed.
We live in a world that contains true monsters…and as I am sure Cyrus can attest to, the police cannot be there all the time. What is wrong with a well trained populace carrying a weapon? Arizona is definately not in anarchy….
How can we be surprised at street crime when we see the total disregard of life exhibited elsewhere?
Frank,
Abortion, last time I looked, was legal.
Murder, last time I looked, was not.
You, last time I checked, are an idiot.
JK
P.S. Pedro is not “scum.” That was uncalled for…my apologies. I get worked up about this kind of crap. I’m trying harder….though. As for Crusty McFranc….Oy.
Yeah, because there was no street crime before we went into Iraq.
Fucking idiot.
Cyrus – I think frame was being ironic, and recalling Frank’s post that legalized abortion leads to the death of people like Victor Dao.
I thought there was a chance of that, but based on some of his previous arguments, i went with him being serious.
One more thing, real quick. Frank, if you were using the abortion on demand/cheapens life argument in regard to one of those stories about a 17yr old throwing her newborn in a dumpster, i’d say it MIGHT have some merit.
But it just doesn’t in the case of Mr Dao. I’ve seen too many of these thugs.
I’m truly sorry if you small minded dolts can’t connect the dots from abortion on demand to elimination of the death penalty, and then restoring it again under limited circumstances — an indicator that taking a life is not the big deal it once was. [Which is why crooks murder everyone in the place during a simple hold up.]
For example, we have District Attorneys in NYC who have declared that they will not pursue a death penalty under any circumstances. It has been years since anyone was executed.
Still no dots?
How about Terri Schiavo, and X amount of plugs pulled?
Still no dots?
I guess I’m an idiot, and you’re all smarter than I am. It’s a good thing I have enough self – esteem to realize that you’re in an invulnerable state of denial.
And let me tell you something, Jerky Knothead, If you squared your IQ, and doubled your education, you wouldn’t be nearly as smart as I am — in any area.
Good God, i’m about to sound like a liberal here, but Frank, I’m sure there are countries with more liberal abortion policies than our own, that have completely outlawed the death penalty, and don’t have our murder rate.
Care to explain that?
I m sure there are countries with more liberal abortion policies than our own, that have completely outlawed the death penalty, and don t have our murder rate.
You’re sure? I’m not. Even in Britain, where once only the Flying Squad was armed, has an escalating murder rate, and now even the Bobbies want guns.
I’ll try it one more time. Mr. Dao was shot because he could identify his assailants. Get it?
BTW, what are”more liberal abortion policies than our own”? Abortion after birth?
Okay, no, i don’t. I guess you’re gonna have explain it to me.
There was a time when if you killed someone when you committed a crime, you were virtually guaranteed the death penalty. Now, that’s not true. What has changed?
There was a time when “pulling the plug” on someone was a last ditch, last resort thing to do. Now, you simply file a “DNR” paper. What has changed?
There was a time when 30 something states outlawed or limited abortion. Now, abortion on demand, up ’til the midst of childbirth, is legal.
Now, It takes about 10 to 11 years, on average, to execute a death penalty. What has changed?
I’m not sure where to put the dots, but they are connected.
I just saw a “special” Oprah, with Elie Wiesel, filmed at Auschwitz.
A few interesting observations:
1) They said about 10 times that 1 and one – half million Jews were killed, without saying how many people were killed there: Catholics, Jehovah’s Witnesses, homosexuals, Gypsies, mentally ill, etc. {1 and one – half million pregnancies are terminated each year, in the US.}
2) At the end, they said we must always remember. Then they zipped through the sources of the footage, including memorials, museums, and websites, to get to — the commercial for Stanley Steemer!
3) How many Jews were killed by Palestinians today?
Frank, how many spontaneous abortions occur in the U.S. every year (you know, the abortions a female body performs without help from a doctor/punch in the stomach)? I bet it’s close to 20 or 30 million. Probably more. That’s obviously an esimate, but I bet it’s close. Do you know of statistics on this issue? Anyone?
I think greater access to the day after pill would decrease the number of abortions by quite a large amount. Education will solve the abortion issue, not laws and moral assertiveness (saying things like “I’m right and you’re wrong and this is the way it has to be”). Education will also solve the violence issue too, but schools are too busy prepping their students for math and reading tests (and not science or social studies, especially low income schools who are “competing” for those federal funds) as opposed to teaching children right from wrong.
the spontaneous abortion rate for pregnancy is as high as 20%
How could there possible be 1 and one – half million abortions on demand, and more than 10 times that many spontaneous abortions?
That is absurd…
And irrelevant.
You can’t solve every thing with education, you know. That’s why there have always been laws, for the rich and poor, the educated and uneducated alike.
And schools were not teaching children right from wrong when I was a kid, except incidentally, by punishing children who “misbehaved.” Take it from someone who took education courses in the 90’s, misbehaving and punishment were not popular topics then, and as a parent of two school age children, I can tell you, they are not popular school topics now.
Even you disapprove of “moral assertiveness”while trying to make a case for school’s “teaching right from wrong.”
How do you propose to teach children “right from wrong” without “moral assertiveness”?