Comments on: Superman Returns Trailer #2

By: BD

BD — Wed, 24 May 2006 20:05:21 +0000

Frank, I hate to get into an argument about reading comprehension over this–and in fact the only reason I loosened my general personal restriction on communicating with you was because I figured that at least we could possibly have a civil discourse on fictional characters–but nowhere in that link you sent me does the summary support the contention “He damn sure didn’t go to the Himalayas.”

He prepares his entire life for this crusade. And once he gains sufficient strength and knowledge…

My guess, and please point me to something more substantive if I’m wrong, is that the old Detective Comics never explored how it was that Bruce Wayne trained to become Batman…he simply was.

However, how do you suppose he gained sufficient strength and knowledge? Not only to become an efficient and deadly martial artist, but also “the world’s greatest detective”? You get that experience and knowledge by taking in everything that the entire world can offer you. And that could very well include obscure ninja sects in the Himalayas.

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Wed, 24 May 2006 20:05:18 +0000

He damn sure didn't go to the Himalayas. http://www.onceuponadime.com/hist/batman.htm

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Wed, 24 May 2006 18:05:46 +0000

Did you read Detective Comics, before Batman had his own comic?

By: BD

BD — Wed, 24 May 2006 18:05:16 +0000

Nope, but my comic book days began long after yours ended. How did the old Detective explain the ways in which Bruce Wayne trained himself to become Batman?

By: BD

BD — Wed, 24 May 2006 16:05:05 +0000

If you’re referring to Batman Begins, Frank, then you either misinterpreted the film or are misinterpreting Buddhism. He wasn’t trained as a monk, he was trained as an assassin…and rejected the Order’s principles before he fell too far.

How that isn’t consistent with the Batman mythology is beyond me.

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Wed, 24 May 2006 12:05:52 +0000

Thanks, DavidL. I hope you’re right. We’ve already seen Batman turned into a Buddhist monk. I hope Supe remains straight and true.

By: DavidL

DavidL — Wed, 24 May 2006 08:05:48 +0000

Clarification for those not following: This movie picks up from Superman II and assumes (thankfully) that Superman III and IV never happened. This is a Pre-Crisis on Infinite Earths timeline although I’m sure some liberties were taken.
This is not ‘PC crap’, this is old school.
Back when Pa Kent dies, Clark gives half his salary to support his silver-haired old mother, Lois wears pink underwear and Superman is indeed, the world’s biggest boy scout.

I am so jazzed for this.

By: legion

legion — Tue, 23 May 2006 15:05:03 +0000

Man, I used to love that show. Curdled milk, anyone?

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Mon, 22 May 2006 23:05:53 +0000

No, sooperedd, Superman is an undocumented worker, and shouldn’t be deported, you know, like the other 12 million immingrants from Krypton.

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Mon, 22 May 2006 23:05:51 +0000

I guess Superman is going to represent Alien Nation in microcosm.

By: BD

BD — Mon, 22 May 2006 23:05:45 +0000

Whoa. Bulletproof eyes. Whoa.

By: sooperedd

sooperedd — Mon, 22 May 2006 23:05:29 +0000

Superman is an illegal alien and should be deported.

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Mon, 22 May 2006 21:05:02 +0000

I know he’s from Krypton… He landed here when his planet exploded. So his father didn’t speak to him.
I know he did in the movies, but this trailer seems to play that up.
Maybe I’m too sensitive.

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Mon, 22 May 2006 20:05:56 +0000

He was a regular Super – guy… He didn’t hang out at the Fortress of Solitude, he just went there for … solitude!
He was left here as a baby — whoever said he wasn’t “one of us”?
Of course he’s one of us!
He never got telepathic messages from Jor – El. Maybe all these changes took place after my comic book days ended (40 years ago), but the first, what was it, three movies had a Superman that I recognized.
Where did he go?
How the heck did Luthor ever find out about the FoS, let alone move in!?!
Too many changes…
Happening too fast…
Must lie down…

By: Oliver Willis

Oliver Willis — Mon, 22 May 2006 20:05:28 +0000

What are you talking about? Superman is an alien from Krypton. In the first Superman movies his father talks to him from beyond the grave, his essence stored in the crystals in the fortress of solitude. In the first Superman movie he spent several years in the fortress after leaving home when his father died.

By: doug r

doug r — Mon, 22 May 2006 19:05:31 +0000

Superman no alien, he from another planet! Frank so happy he cry!

By: Oliver Willis

Oliver Willis — Mon, 22 May 2006 18:05:11 +0000

Frank: WTF are you talking about?

By: legion

legion — Mon, 22 May 2006 17:05:10 +0000

I can’t get there through the firewall at work, but I saw a commercial last night that actually makes me want to support this – the bit with “saving” the airliner rocks!

By: lordrunningclam

lordrunningclam — Mon, 22 May 2006 15:05:50 +0000

Actually I found that a bit cringy. Cool, but cringy.

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Mon, 22 May 2006 15:05:17 +0000

The new F/X are turning Superman into something he wasn’t.

And, he was never an “alien” in the comics. He came from Smallville, for cryin’ out loud!

Is this some kind of PC crap?