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According to the latest NEWSWEEK poll, 53 percent of Americans think the NSA s surveillance program  goes too far in invading people s privacy, while 41 percent see it as a necessary tool to combat terrorism.

President Bush tried to reassure the public this week that its privacy is  fiercely protected, and that  we re not mining or trolling through the personal lives of innocent Americans. Nonetheless, Americans think the White House has overstepped its bounds: 57 percent said that in light of the NSA data-mining news and other executive actions, the Bush-Cheney Administration has  gone too far in expanding presidential power. That compares to 38 percent who think the Administration s actions are appropriate.

There s more bad news for the White House in the NEWSWEEK poll: President Bush s approval rating has dropped to the lowest in his presidency. At 35 percent, his rating is one point below the 36 percent he received in Newsweek s polls in March and November, 2005.

I’m betting a lot of that 41% overlaps with the 35% remaining in the Bush cult.

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24 Responses to “Too Much”

  1. doug r says:

    35%? You’re being generous, more like 29% according to Harris. Check the new graphic at Pollkatz, the swirling toilet bowl of opinion…

  2. Semanticleo says:

    When Newt says it’s too much, you’re really in the crapper.

  3. mike3k says:

    Don’t you mean 29%?

  4. Frank_D says:

    Sometimes, polls just don’t matter.
    This is one of those times.
    Setting aside the obvious, that the MSM has been screeching, “The sky is falling!” for two days, whch has no doubt contributed to the change in opinion, the constitutionality of this action is no longer in doubt, the utility and necessity of the program has been demonstrated, and it’s time for the haters of Bush self – proclaimed “defenders of our rights” to fold up their tents, and follow Cindy Sheehan into oblivion.
    Your 15 minutes is up.

  5. Rounds77 says:

    Frank, brave words coming from what is now the ultra minority of Americans known as Bush supporters. It is “yous guys” who are actually the ones fading into oblivion and who are becoming more irrelevant with each conducted poll.

  6. goatchowder says:

    Billmon nails it.

    But some things are wrong just because they’re wrong — not because a temporary majority (or even a permanent one) thinks they’re wrong.

    Real conservatives used to understand this. But the authoritarian right, for all of its talk about moral absolutes, understands and respects just one thing: power. In our system power flows from votes — and having the money to demagogue those votes. It doesn’t get more relativistic than that.

    What the government is doing is illegal and unamerican, and that would still be true if the polls showed 99% support — in fact, it would be even more true.

  7. TomY says:

    Rove indicted already? Is Cheney next? Couldn’t happen to more deserving people.

    HAW HAW HAW!!

    http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051306W.shtml

  8. Frank_D says:

    Big Brother is watching you. Collecting your names and addresses. Mapping out your telephone numbers and e-mail address. Making note of your interests. Paying close attention to how you spend your money.
    Big Brother is folding these bits of information about you and millions upon millions of your fellow Americans, and you d better be sitting down for this part entering it into searchable databases.

  9. Bill L. says:

    Ah, the sweet desperate smell of frustrated Bush humpers.

    Let no reality color your world.

    Let no civil right be so cherished it can’t be thrown under the bus.

    Suffer not the defenders of sanity and troublesome brown people from far off lands for they are not the deciders.

    When in doubt about the future, remember these simple words, “Diebold can fix it.”

    Go, and above all remember, thou shalt shag no leg save Bush.

    Aye, verily.

  10. elrod says:

    Frank,
    I’d love to hear about the “utility and necessity” of this program. That’s the part that galls me the most, honestly. I just don’t see how collecting a massive database of every call ever made is that helpful. How about the intelligence agencies spending their resources on spies who can actually inflitrate these terrorist networks and turn them in. I bet it’d be a whole lot more effective than this crazy high-tech gadgetry. Come to think of it, the NSA’s approach to counter-terrorism (too much technology, not enough manpower) is akin to our problems in Iraq. Too much reliance on a high-tech military and not enough troops. Every hypothetical scenario I’ve read about (Falkenrath’s in the WaPo, for example) is dealth with much better under traditional investigatory practices.

  11. SaveFarris says:

    Let’s assume this poll is dead on. So what?

  12. Rounds77 says:

    Farris, I’ll tell you “so what”. These polls mean that the overwhelming majority of Americans think the policies of this administration have been detrimenatal and even disasterous to our interests. Remember, perception is reality. It also makes most of wonder when that subborn 25 to 30 percent of us are going to “get it” like everyone else.

  13. Frank_D says:

    Rounds77: I think you’re a disgruntled Portugese fisherman with a harelip and a hunchback.
    Was I close?

  14. JK says:

    People like Crusty McFrank are the same people who cried bloody murder when there was talk of a national firearms ID card. It’ll punish law-abiding citizens!

    “The government will know where every law-abiding gun owner in America lives.”

    Shut your pie hole on this NSA stuff…you bunch of hypocrites. Just shut your hole. We’re sick of your crap.

    JK

  15. roche says:

    SaveFarris:

    It would make it considerably more difficult for Bush’s agenda to get fully implemented. Even though he can’t be voted out, Republicans in the House and Senate can.

  16. Frank_D says:

    Another well – thought out comment from Jerky Knothead.
    This is not about guns (which I don’t care about, but that doesn’t make me a Second Amendment opponent, like the jerks who think, “Well, gee, I don’t have a gun — why should anyone else?); or National ID Cards, which I oppose…
    So, shut that boothole you’re talkin’ out of!

  17. Roni says:

    Frank, why do you consider your insults discussion and everyone else’s insults are shit?

    I know you won’t respond :) … it continues to be enjoyable watching you talk out of your ass.

  18. buma says:

    I see frank mentions his opposition to National ID cards above. Actually, that would be the next logical step for Our Leader and his ministry of national security. If such a program were implemented would that be the final straw that causes frank to jump off the bushlover bandwagon? I doubt it.

  19. buma says:

    Had enough? In the immortal words of dugger on a different topic:

    “Bush Fatigue. It can’t happen.”
    If I knew how to put a smiley on that I would.

  20. JK says:

    Well, let’s see Crusty…how many instances is the party of “less government” willing to crawl up the ass of innocent Americans and invade our privacy, and constitutional rights?

    Where to we start? Do we start with a ban on gay marriage?

    Let’s travel over to making abortion illegal, shall we?

    No, wait…there’s more….don’t burn the flag, or your ass will end up in the slammer.

    Don’t you dare tell us we can’t pray in a public school….

    What’s that, you don’t have a yellow “Support our Troops,” magnet on your car? Traitor.

    Give up your most basic rights and freedoms liberal scum….but don’t you dare come after mine (2nd Ammendment).

    Hey…..Crusty…..

    “You can pry my phone logs from my cold, dead hands.”

    JK

  21. Frank_D says:

    Jerky Knothead: Who and what are you talking about?

    Where do we start?
    Is there a ban on gay marriage?
    Did I say there should be?

    Abortion should be illegal — it prevents babies froim being born, does it not?

    Is it against the law to burn the flag? No.

    I don’t have any magnets on my car…

    And all liberals aren’t scum …

    The government can find — and has already been finding out — all about you. They’ve been doing it for years. As technology has improved, so has their spying on us.

    Do I like it? No.

    Does that matter? No.

    This is a big non – story, and it will blow away, whether you like it — or me — or not.

  22. midderpidge says:

    As more information comes out about this program, we can expect the poll numbers to change. This program has a huge potential for misuse.

    And Frank, another one; why does the government need my credit information to help determine if I’m a security risk for an airplane ride?

  23. Frank_D says:

    midderpidge: How the hell should I know? I haven’t flown in a plane in twenty years…

  24. Roni says:

    Frank_D Says:
    May 15th, 2006 at 5:39 pm
    midderpidge: How the hell should I know? I haven t flown in a plane in twenty years&

    Holy crap, does that explain A LOT!!