Comments on: This Call Is Between Me, You and The NSA Guy On The Line

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Fri, 12 May 2006 19:05:21 +0000

No, RR, I just know you don’t. I also know that no — that is, NO – library records have been subpoena’d under the Patriot Act to date.
Also, my super top – secret friends in Wash, D.C. tell me that Sen.Clinton is not scheduled for residency in the White House — ever.

By: buma

buma — Fri, 12 May 2006 18:05:11 +0000

Frank, it’s good to know that if Hillary is president and this kind of data mining occurs, you will be at the forefront of her defense.

By: Repack Rider

Repack Rider — Fri, 12 May 2006 16:05:03 +0000

I would venture to say that not a one of them was jailed at Guantanamo for participating in a demonstration, taking out a library book, or telephoning Aunt Fatima in Damascus to wish her a happy birthday.

So you have the trial transcripts explaining all the evidence supporting the charges?

Wait.

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Fri, 12 May 2006 14:05:44 +0000

(: Tom A) Of course, you can identify those “wrongfully detained innocents*”, and, of course, indicate how self – evident it is that they don’t belong there;
B) You can also, I suppose, make some sort of connection between tossing suspected terrorists in the klink, and analyzing phone activity to detect the presence of terrorist cells.

* BTW, I would venture to say that not a one of them was jailed at Guantanamo for participating in a demonstration, taking out a library book, or telephoning Aunt Fatima in Damascus to wish her a happy birthday.

By: (: Tom :)

(: Tom :) — Fri, 12 May 2006 13:05:12 +0000

Frank_D Says:

May 11th, 2006 at 9:12 pm
L B: Get yoir finger off the panic button& I ve been hearing that Niemoller quote since the first time a cop bopped a Berkeley student over the head in 1965, and no one s been sent to a Gulag yet.

I’m guessing that the innocents in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as the Americans, Australians and British, who have been wrongfully Gitmotized would disagree with you, Frank. If they ever get the chance to voice their disagreements, that is…

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Fri, 12 May 2006 11:05:21 +0000

Gee, buma, if you and your fellow lefties weren’t flailing your arms and screaming like passengers bobbing in the water around a capsized ship, you might have read what conservatives have been saying, but the wail of “Ooh! Ooh! Wiretap!” is too loud in your collective ears.
Are you guys all drug dealers, or in the Mafia*, or something?

* Of course, there is no Mafia!

By: Beans

Beans — Fri, 12 May 2006 07:05:01 +0000

He does a wicked imitation of Ann. Gets me every time.

By: buma

buma — Fri, 12 May 2006 06:05:53 +0000

Where do the conservatarians weigh in on this one? Does this look like government small enough to drown in a bathtub?

By: Beans

Beans — Fri, 12 May 2006 06:05:20 +0000

This is very embarrassing for me because the chances are the NSA is now well aware that I’ve been having phone sex with Ann Coulter.

By: Beans

Beans — Fri, 12 May 2006 06:05:14 +0000

Oops! I mean Frank.

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Fri, 12 May 2006 03:05:42 +0000

Never mind what my argument “seems to be.” Before I open myself up to more accusations from the trembling frameone, who seems to think that fearing death at the hands of terrorists is for cowards, while fearing that the FBI is going to knock down his door because he called his Aunt Minnie in Akron is realistic, I’ll let it go, OK?

I had a job with the government* where every detail of my personal life was scrutinized, before I worked for them and during. Did it make me paranoid, or frightened of my own government? No. I “survived” Watergate, the Kennedy assassination, Walsh’s investigation of the Reagan administration, and Starr’s investigation of the Clintons, without missing a stride.

Now, suddenly, I’m going to worry because it’s the Bush administration?
I don’t think so.

I was too young for the “McCarthy’s coming!” McCarthy’s coming!” hysteria, and I’m too old (grown up? wise? quien sabe?) to get excited over this.

I’m sure everything will be fine.

* I worked for the IRS, and I’ve got news for you: The government can already do whatever the hell they want.

By: Roni

Roni — Fri, 12 May 2006 03:05:15 +0000

Frank_D Says:
May 11th, 2006 at 10:02 pm
Now, suddenly, I m going to worry because it s the Bush administration? I don t think so. I m sure everything will be fine.

Gosh, suddenly I feel much better. If Frank says he’s “sure” everything will be fine, then “surely” everything will be fine.

By: Leroy Brown

Leroy Brown — Fri, 12 May 2006 02:05:30 +0000

Look Frank, all I’m saying is that you’re argument seems to be “Why should I care? I have nothing to hide!” What I’m saying is that when we start letting the government do whatever they want, they soon may determine that in fact you ARE doing something they don’t like.

“But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.”

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Fri, 12 May 2006 02:05:13 +0000

L B: Get yoir finger off the panic button… I’ve been hearing that Niemoller quote since the first time a cop bopped a Berkeley student over the head in 1965, and no one’s been sent to a Gulag yet.
In fact, at most demonstrations, there are people begging to get arrested, because nothing’s going to happen to them.
Frameone’s and Oliver’s histrionics notwithstanding, the Republic shall stand…
You know why?

…I’ll be all around in the dark. I’ll be ever’-where – wherever you can look. Wherever there’s a fight so hungry people can eat, I’ll be there. Wherever there’s a cop beatin’ up a guy, I’ll be there. I’ll be in the way guys yell when they’re mad – I’ll be in the way kids laugh when they’re hungry an’ they know supper’s ready. An’ when the people are eatin’ the stuff they raise, and livin’ in the houses they build – I’ll be there, too.

By: Roni

Roni — Fri, 12 May 2006 01:05:40 +0000

Frank_D Says:
May 11th, 2006 at 6:39 pm
I say, that before the gummint listens in on the next call I make to Golden Imperial for Beef Chow Fun, or the next time I call United Taxi for a cab to the movies, you should kill me!
That s right!

Give me take out or give me death!

Frank, is this your birthday and Christmas presents, rolled into one for the next 10 years, to Beans and I?

By: Leroy Brown

Leroy Brown — Fri, 12 May 2006 01:05:26 +0000

Frank,
“When the Nazis arrested the Communists,
I said nothing; after all, I was not a Communist.
When they locked up the Social Democrats,
I said nothing; after all, I was not a Social Democrat.
When they arrested the trade unionists,
I said nothing; after all, I was not a trade unionist.
When they arrested the Jews, I said nothing; after all, I was not a Jew.
When they arrested me, there was no longer anyone who could protest.”
-Martin_Niemöller

Now, before you got your panties in a bunch, I’m not saying Bush is a Nazi. I am saying that if we don’t raise a stink over this, we may not have the ability to raise a stink when it gets worse.

By: frameone

frameone — Fri, 12 May 2006 01:05:17 +0000

Oh mercy. As if we needed more proof that idiot right is a personality cult, here it is in all it’s glory.

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Thu, 11 May 2006 23:05:59 +0000

I say, that before the gummint listens in on the next call I make to Golden Imperial for Beef Chow Fun, or the next time I call United Taxi for a cab to the movies, you should kill me!
That’s right!
Give me take out or give me death!

By: factcheck

factcheck — Thu, 11 May 2006 23:05:04 +0000

frame, I think you misunderstood JD’s disingenuous question. He is saying, I think, that since Verizon maintains a billing database that monitors what calls are made, so that they can charge you the proper toll, it’s really no big deal to give this info to the government so they can do with it what they wish.

Whiny. Titty. Babies.

By: frameone

frameone — Thu, 11 May 2006 22:05:42 +0000

“frameone : Do you think that AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, etal. did that long before now ?”

You think that these companies have been giving our phone records to the government to be collected in a permanent database? Are you kidding me?