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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/11/jeb-for-president/#comment-33640</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 20:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeb Bush isn&#039;t running, folks.  He&#039;ll run in 2012, and defeat President Feingold.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeb Bush isn&#8217;t running, folks.  He&#8217;ll run in 2012, and defeat President Feingold.</p>
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		<title>By: Dugger</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/11/jeb-for-president/#comment-33639</link>
		<dc:creator>Dugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 16:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JSA,

I was enjoying the watching hounds running the wrong trail.  Your sense was right.   Jeb won&#039;t make it because of Bush fatigue (for one among other reasons).

Dugger
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JSA,</p>
<p>I was enjoying the watching hounds running the wrong trail.  Your sense was right.   Jeb won&#8217;t make it because of Bush fatigue (for one among other reasons).</p>
<p>Dugger</p>
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		<title>By: Just John</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/11/jeb-for-president/#comment-33638</link>
		<dc:creator>Just John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 21:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain could run a push poll before the South Carolina primary:

Q:  &quot;Will Jeb Bush&#039;s Hispnic Immigrant smuggling wife effect your vote?&quot;
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<p>Q:  &#8220;Will Jeb Bush&#8217;s Hispnic Immigrant smuggling wife effect your vote?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JSA</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/11/jeb-for-president/#comment-33637</link>
		<dc:creator>JSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 19:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bush fatigue. It ain t gonna happen.&quot;

Dugger,

Do you mean Bush fatigue isn&#039;t going to happen, or Jeb won&#039;t be President because of Bush fatigue?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bush fatigue. It ain t gonna happen.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dugger,</p>
<p>Do you mean Bush fatigue isn&#8217;t going to happen, or Jeb won&#8217;t be President because of Bush fatigue?</p>
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		<title>By: hrdkandie02</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/11/jeb-for-president/#comment-33636</link>
		<dc:creator>hrdkandie02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 18:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont think we will ever see another Bush in office!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont think we will ever see another Bush in office!</p>
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		<title>By: mjb</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/11/jeb-for-president/#comment-33635</link>
		<dc:creator>mjb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 18:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bush fatigue. It ain t gonna happen.&quot;

That really is priceless.
I guess an extremely low approval rating is proof of lack of fatigue, just as the majority of Americans who oppose warrantless wiretapping shows support for the NSA program, or the vast majority of Iraqis who want us out is proof that, as Dick Cheney said, &quot;with respect to the question of were we greeted as liberators, I think we clearly are viewed as liberators by the vast majority of the Iraqi people.&quot;

One more point, how is that not a lie?  He knows for a fact that it is not &quot;clear&quot; at all, and that every poll conducted has shown huge majorities want us out.  To claim something is &quot;clear&quot; is a lie when you know it&#039;s not.  How do you cons defend that?  It&#039;s time you own up and admit, as I got one of my con friends to do, that you feel there are greater goals which justify lying to the people.  Then think of the company you are intellectually keeping by reaching that conclusion.

Just admit it, my friend seemed relieved after he did.  It seemed a weight was off his chest now that he no longer had to throw out the patently false BS talking points regarding the NSA scandal, the lies to gather public support for the runup to the war, Social Security, etc...  He no longer felt the need to say that no one lied in the runup, then pretend that I didn&#039;t just show him a blatant example of said lying to maintain the shroud of false consistency.  Now he just says that of course they lied, they had to, they wouldn&#039;t have gotten the support otherwise.  This is a great guy and great friend.  Shows how cultish the idea power can make people.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bush fatigue. It ain t gonna happen.&#8221;</p>
<p>That really is priceless.<br />
I guess an extremely low approval rating is proof of lack of fatigue, just as the majority of Americans who oppose warrantless wiretapping shows support for the NSA program, or the vast majority of Iraqis who want us out is proof that, as Dick Cheney said, &#8220;with respect to the question of were we greeted as liberators, I think we clearly are viewed as liberators by the vast majority of the Iraqi people.&#8221;</p>
<p>One more point, how is that not a lie?  He knows for a fact that it is not &#8220;clear&#8221; at all, and that every poll conducted has shown huge majorities want us out.  To claim something is &#8220;clear&#8221; is a lie when you know it&#8217;s not.  How do you cons defend that?  It&#8217;s time you own up and admit, as I got one of my con friends to do, that you feel there are greater goals which justify lying to the people.  Then think of the company you are intellectually keeping by reaching that conclusion.</p>
<p>Just admit it, my friend seemed relieved after he did.  It seemed a weight was off his chest now that he no longer had to throw out the patently false BS talking points regarding the NSA scandal, the lies to gather public support for the runup to the war, Social Security, etc&#8230;  He no longer felt the need to say that no one lied in the runup, then pretend that I didn&#8217;t just show him a blatant example of said lying to maintain the shroud of false consistency.  Now he just says that of course they lied, they had to, they wouldn&#8217;t have gotten the support otherwise.  This is a great guy and great friend.  Shows how cultish the idea power can make people.</p>
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		<title>By: BD</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/11/jeb-for-president/#comment-33634</link>
		<dc:creator>BD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 18:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t trust the memory of the population as much as you do, hrdkandie. Wait a few more terms, and watch how the same gutless fearmongering tactics get another right-winger elected on the promise that he or she will &quot;preserve American society.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t trust the memory of the population as much as you do, hrdkandie. Wait a few more terms, and watch how the same gutless fearmongering tactics get another right-winger elected on the promise that he or she will &#8220;preserve American society.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: buma</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/11/jeb-for-president/#comment-33633</link>
		<dc:creator>buma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 17:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dugger said bush fatigue but he may have meant bushHate. You know what a pandemic that is.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dugger said bush fatigue but he may have meant bushHate. You know what a pandemic that is.</p>
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		<title>By: mr.curmudgeon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/11/jeb-for-president/#comment-33632</link>
		<dc:creator>mr.curmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 16:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Bush fatigue. It ain t gonna happen.&lt;/i&gt;

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! It&#039;s already past fatigue Dear Dugger. It has gone straight to Bush Disgust and it&#039;s on it way to Bush Shame.

Clap harder.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Bush fatigue. It ain t gonna happen.</i></p>
<p>BWAHAHAHAHAHA! It&#8217;s already past fatigue Dear Dugger. It has gone straight to Bush Disgust and it&#8217;s on it way to Bush Shame.</p>
<p>Clap harder.</p>
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		<title>By: TomY</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/11/jeb-for-president/#comment-33631</link>
		<dc:creator>TomY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 16:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dugger has the post of the day. What could top that?
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		<title>By: Rheinhard</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/11/jeb-for-president/#comment-33630</link>
		<dc:creator>Rheinhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 16:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  Thanks for that comment, Semanticleo!  I hadn&#039;t even thought about that parallel!  Now that I think about it, there are tons of similarities to our current situation.   As I think about it, a number of scenes jump out at me from the outstanding 1991 HBO movie about it, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102715/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Prisoner of Honor&lt;/a&gt;, with regard to current events...

First, Major Henri, acting head of counterintelligence, is found out (by a mousy little &quot;plodder&quot;, Capt. Cuignet -- Patrick Fitzgerald?) as having completely faked the evidence against Dreyfus (WMD Intel?), including taping the top half of one letter to the bottom half of another.  He is berated by General Gonse (played by one of my fave actors evar, BRIAN BLESSED!), who says &quot;We believed you!  We believed everything you told us!&quot;  But Gonse is upbraided by Gen. Boisdeffre (Oliver Reed!), &quot;No, Gen. Gonse, we believed what we wanted to believe.&quot;  (Bush blaming CIA &quot;intelligence failure&quot;?)

Second, the narration explaining during the court trial that when Col. Picquart saw the generals shaking hands with Esterhazy, a man they knew to be a liar and a traitor, in order to preserve &quot;public faith in the Army&quot;, Picquart felt released from his oath and felt compelled to tell the whole truth (CIA leaker?)

Third, after Henri is imprisoned, Gen. de Pellieux visits him and presents him with a shaving kit including, naturally, a razor with a particularly fine edge, and says to Henri &quot;Make. us. proud.  of you.&quot; Henri is naturally found dead shortly after (convicted Duke Cunningham, apparently refusing to cooperate with investigators, as was revealed yesterday?)

Fourth, the scene where Gen. Mercier tells Gen. Boisdeffre a story of his early army days in Africa.  Mercier says his commander at the time promised a village headman that his village would be unharmed if some French soldiers that had been kidnapped by villagers were returned.  &quot;The soldiers were released, and you can guess the rest.  The headman and his son were killed, and the village burnt to the ground.  [My commander] didn&#039;t like doing it, got drunk after.  But when it came to honor or duty, duty came first!&quot;  (Any lie the admin wants to tell is always justified by similar &quot;duty&quot;...)

And finally, Picquart&#039;s stirring speech near the end, where he explains that if the High Command had had a modicum of integrity they could easily have arrested the true spy, Esterhazy, by lunchtime on the day the news arrived, and the nation could have been spared all the division that is now tearing it apart.  (do I even need to go on?)

Damn... now I am gonna have to find that tape among my still-packed moving boxes and watch it with my friends this weekend...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  Thanks for that comment, Semanticleo!  I hadn&#8217;t even thought about that parallel!  Now that I think about it, there are tons of similarities to our current situation.   As I think about it, a number of scenes jump out at me from the outstanding 1991 HBO movie about it, <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102715/" rel="nofollow">Prisoner of Honor</a>, with regard to current events&#8230;</p>
<p>First, Major Henri, acting head of counterintelligence, is found out (by a mousy little &#8220;plodder&#8221;, Capt. Cuignet &#8212; Patrick Fitzgerald?) as having completely faked the evidence against Dreyfus (WMD Intel?), including taping the top half of one letter to the bottom half of another.  He is berated by General Gonse (played by one of my fave actors evar, BRIAN BLESSED!), who says &#8220;We believed you!  We believed everything you told us!&#8221;  But Gonse is upbraided by Gen. Boisdeffre (Oliver Reed!), &#8220;No, Gen. Gonse, we believed what we wanted to believe.&#8221;  (Bush blaming CIA &#8220;intelligence failure&#8221;?)</p>
<p>Second, the narration explaining during the court trial that when Col. Picquart saw the generals shaking hands with Esterhazy, a man they knew to be a liar and a traitor, in order to preserve &#8220;public faith in the Army&#8221;, Picquart felt released from his oath and felt compelled to tell the whole truth (CIA leaker?)</p>
<p>Third, after Henri is imprisoned, Gen. de Pellieux visits him and presents him with a shaving kit including, naturally, a razor with a particularly fine edge, and says to Henri &#8220;Make. us. proud.  of you.&#8221; Henri is naturally found dead shortly after (convicted Duke Cunningham, apparently refusing to cooperate with investigators, as was revealed yesterday?)</p>
<p>Fourth, the scene where Gen. Mercier tells Gen. Boisdeffre a story of his early army days in Africa.  Mercier says his commander at the time promised a village headman that his village would be unharmed if some French soldiers that had been kidnapped by villagers were returned.  &#8220;The soldiers were released, and you can guess the rest.  The headman and his son were killed, and the village burnt to the ground.  [My commander] didn&#8217;t like doing it, got drunk after.  But when it came to honor or duty, duty came first!&#8221;  (Any lie the admin wants to tell is always justified by similar &#8220;duty&#8221;&#8230;)</p>
<p>And finally, Picquart&#8217;s stirring speech near the end, where he explains that if the High Command had had a modicum of integrity they could easily have arrested the true spy, Esterhazy, by lunchtime on the day the news arrived, and the nation could have been spared all the division that is now tearing it apart.  (do I even need to go on?)</p>
<p>Damn&#8230; now I am gonna have to find that tape among my still-packed moving boxes and watch it with my friends this weekend&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/11/jeb-for-president/#comment-33629</link>
		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 16:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will replace Bill Gates as head of Microsoft before Jeb Bush is elected President in 2008.

JK
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will replace Bill Gates as head of Microsoft before Jeb Bush is elected President in 2008.</p>
<p>JK</p>
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		<title>By: Dugger</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/11/jeb-for-president/#comment-33628</link>
		<dc:creator>Dugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 13:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush fatigue. It ain&#039;t gonna happen.

Dugger
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush fatigue. It ain&#8217;t gonna happen.</p>
<p>Dugger</p>
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		<title>By: buma</title>
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		<dc:creator>buma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 08:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeb will restore honor and dignity to the White House. Perhaps he&#039;ll be smart enough to ask Cheney to help him select a vice president.
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 06:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone recall the Dreyfus Affair?  This is worse.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12727867/from/RSS/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12727867/from/RSS/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12727867/from/RSS/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone recall the Dreyfus Affair?  This is worse.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12727867/from/RSS/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12727867/from/RSS/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12727867/from/RSS/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fuming Mucker</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/11/jeb-for-president/#comment-33625</link>
		<dc:creator>Fuming Mucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 05:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevertheless, be it a Bush or a Clinton, such an oligarchy would be &lt;i&gt;bad&lt;/i&gt; for this republic... it&#039;s bad enough with Rumsfeld and Cheney in power all these years.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevertheless, be it a Bush or a Clinton, such an oligarchy would be <i>bad</i> for this republic&#8230; it&#8217;s bad enough with Rumsfeld and Cheney in power all these years.</p>
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