Comments on: The Nugget Of The HUD Scandal http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/09/the-nugget-of-the-hud-scandal/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:00:25 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: JD http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/09/the-nugget-of-the-hud-scandal/#comment-33494 JD Thu, 11 May 2006 01:05:13 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1958#comment-33494 midderpidge - I am certainly not one to come down on Rep. Kennedy, but if you were to take him at his word, he claimed to be on his way to cast a vote. Do you think his condition would have affected his work ? midderpidge – I am certainly not one to come down on Rep. Kennedy, but if you were to take him at his word, he claimed to be on his way to cast a vote. Do you think his condition would have affected his work ?

]]> By: Frank_D http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/09/the-nugget-of-the-hud-scandal/#comment-33493 Frank_D Wed, 10 May 2006 22:05:02 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1958#comment-33493 <i>Kennedy did a personally bad thing that has no relation to how he does his job as an agent of the government.</i> Have you ever worked for the government? There are many government jobs where that kind of behavior made public would get you fired. Very little will happen to Jackson. He'll probably resign "to spend more time with his family" and end up making more money working for a "Think Tank." Kennedy did a personally bad thing that has no relation to how he does his job as an agent of the government.
Have you ever worked for the government?
There are many government jobs where that kind of behavior made public would get you fired.
Very little will happen to Jackson. He’ll probably resign “to spend more time with his family” and end up making more money working for a “Think Tank.”

]]> By: midderpidge http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/09/the-nugget-of-the-hud-scandal/#comment-33492 midderpidge Wed, 10 May 2006 20:05:43 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1958#comment-33492 Oh, I'm sorry I wasn't clear Frank: Strawman. Not he did it too, but he did a completely different unrelated thing. Kennedy did a personally bad thing that has no relation to how he does his job as an agent of the government. The other guy did his bad thing specifically in the way he does his job as an agent of the government. Oh, I’m sorry I wasn’t clear Frank: Strawman. Not he did it too, but he did a completely different unrelated thing. Kennedy did a personally bad thing that has no relation to how he does his job as an agent of the government. The other guy did his bad thing specifically in the way he does his job as an agent of the government.

]]> By: Dugger http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/09/the-nugget-of-the-hud-scandal/#comment-33491 Dugger Wed, 10 May 2006 18:05:53 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1958#comment-33491 You can stick your sweeping ad hominen conclusions where they belong. Nevertheless, this guy needs to go. That was bad. Dugger You can stick your sweeping ad hominen conclusions where they belong. Nevertheless, this guy needs to go. That was bad.

Dugger

]]> By: frameone http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/09/the-nugget-of-the-hud-scandal/#comment-33490 frameone Wed, 10 May 2006 18:05:09 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1958#comment-33490 "If only Democrats were in charge, then we d get quality public servants in charge of HUD. Fine, upstanding folk like Henry Cisneros& " Typical. A Clinton appointee has an affair and records perfectly legal payments to his ex-lover on a routine background check. When his voluntary admission is investigated it turns out he didn't reveal the full amount of the perfectly legal payments he made from personal funds. So in trying to cover his ass the Clinton appointee gets caught lying about otherwise perfectly legal payments from his personal funds to his ex-lover and loses his job. Now in the mind of idiot right wingers that's the same as a Bush appointee who may have broke the law during the course of doing his job by using political loyalty as a criteria for awarding government contracts. And here I thought you guys were opposed to out of control prosecutors who charge people with crimes that occurred as a result of the prosecutors own investigation. Oh wait, I guess that only applies when its Republicans being investigated. Which, of course, also explains why you look the other way when a Bush appointee plays politics with taxpayer money in violation of the law. At least your consistent idiots. “If only Democrats were in charge, then we d get quality public servants in charge of HUD. Fine, upstanding folk like Henry Cisneros& ”

Typical. A Clinton appointee has an affair and records perfectly legal payments to his ex-lover on a routine background check. When his voluntary admission is investigated it turns out he didn’t reveal the full amount of the perfectly legal payments he made from personal funds. So in trying to cover his ass the Clinton appointee gets caught lying about otherwise perfectly legal payments from his personal funds to his ex-lover and loses his job.

Now in the mind of idiot right wingers that’s the same as a Bush appointee who may have broke the law during the course of doing his job by using political loyalty as a criteria for awarding government contracts.

And here I thought you guys were opposed to out of control prosecutors who charge people with crimes that occurred as a result of the prosecutors own investigation. Oh wait, I guess that only applies when its Republicans being investigated. Which, of course, also explains why you look the other way when a Bush appointee plays politics with taxpayer money in violation of the law. At least your consistent idiots.

]]> By: duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/09/the-nugget-of-the-hud-scandal/#comment-33489 duros62 Wed, 10 May 2006 18:05:03 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1958#comment-33489 May I point out that the congressman from RI is taking responsibility for his actions and is seeking help for his problems? Hmmm... personal responsibility, what a concept. May I point out that the congressman from RI is taking responsibility for his actions and is seeking help for his problems?
Hmmm… personal responsibility, what a concept.

]]> By: Frank_D http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/09/the-nugget-of-the-hud-scandal/#comment-33488 Frank_D Wed, 10 May 2006 17:05:26 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1958#comment-33488 <i>Don t I remember you saying he was the victim of a witch hunt or something?</i> Actually, no. Don t I remember you saying he was the victim of a witch hunt or something?
Actually, no.

]]> By: Frank_D http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/09/the-nugget-of-the-hud-scandal/#comment-33487 Frank_D Wed, 10 May 2006 17:05:12 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1958#comment-33487 <i>also he is an individual and not representative of his party as a whole. </i> I wasn't blaming Kennedy for anything, or pulling a "they did it, too!" What I was saying was that they <i>all</i> do it all the time. Speaking of individuals and representatives, where do you get off making Jackson a representative of all Republicans (Oliver made him a representative of all black conservatives [!]) So, since you totally missed the point, I'll let you off with a warning... Need a ride home? And q - w, you're the second person who has offered me a trip ot of the country. 1) I'm way too busy to go anywhere but my computer and school; 2) I can't go to Australia -- what would I do there? I don't drink anymore... 3) I don't want to go to China -- it's too much like Vermont and or Massachusetts, except with lots of Asians. I like Asians, but I like my freedom more. 4) I was born here, I'm already a citizen. Can't you and JK pretend I snuck in over the Rio Grande a few weeks ago, and welcome me to America with open arms? also he is an individual and not representative of his party as a whole.
I wasn’t blaming Kennedy for anything, or pulling a “they did it, too!” What I was saying was that they all do it all the time.

Speaking of individuals and representatives, where do you get off making Jackson a representative of all Republicans (Oliver made him a representative of all black conservatives [!])

So, since you totally missed the point, I’ll let you off with a warning… Need a ride home?

And q – w, you’re the second person who has offered me a trip ot of the country.
1) I’m way too busy to go anywhere but my computer and school;
2) I can’t go to Australia — what would I do there? I don’t drink anymore…
3) I don’t want to go to China — it’s too much like Vermont and or Massachusetts, except with lots of Asians. I like Asians, but I like my freedom more.
4) I was born here, I’m already a citizen. Can’t you and JK pretend I snuck in over the Rio Grande a few weeks ago, and welcome me to America with open arms?

]]> By: midderpidge http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/09/the-nugget-of-the-hud-scandal/#comment-33486 midderpidge Wed, 10 May 2006 15:05:33 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1958#comment-33486 At least he didn't shoot anyone in the face Frank, also he is an individual and not representative of his party as a whole. This HUD thing is just another example of what the Bush white house does across the entire bureaucratic spectrum... Department scientists and bureaucrats cannot speak to the press, just the newly created PR political hacks; they tried only lobbyists with clear republican ties would have access to government; A CIA head whose chief job is weeding out ayone who isn't a Bush loyalist, hell, you can't even come within a mile of a Bush public appearance wearing an anti-Bush t-shirt. It goes on and on Frank. All erased in your mind by one Democratic politician who wrecked his car in some unclear drugged or drunk ride. This was a politician who had nothing except his family name to get elected on. If he were a republican, he'd make a perfect presidential candidate. At least he didn’t shoot anyone in the face Frank, also he is an individual and not representative of his party as a whole. This HUD thing is just another example of what the Bush white house does across the entire bureaucratic spectrum… Department scientists and bureaucrats cannot speak to the press, just the newly created PR political hacks; they tried only lobbyists with clear republican ties would have access to government; A CIA head whose chief job is weeding out ayone who isn’t a Bush loyalist, hell, you can’t even come within a mile of a Bush public appearance wearing an anti-Bush t-shirt. It goes on and on Frank. All erased in your mind by one Democratic politician who wrecked his car in some unclear drugged or drunk ride. This was a politician who had nothing except his family name to get elected on. If he were a republican, he’d make a perfect presidential candidate.

]]> By: qkslvr_wolf http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/09/the-nugget-of-the-hud-scandal/#comment-33485 qkslvr_wolf Wed, 10 May 2006 14:05:02 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1958#comment-33485 Frank, 1) Thats one guy. 2) What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? Not that I'm really against having an informed opionion on the guy's guilt, but hey, you're always whining about it with your cadre of corrupt congressmen, so I figured you might want to stop being a hypocrite {long moment of laughter, followed by slow breath catching. I crack myself up.} 3) You realize that..umm...its your people that are currently doing all the gerrymandering and protectionism that makes it hard to clean house when politicians break the law. Of course, I'm not saying that my side wouldn't do it too..but the difference is I'd vote the bastards out if they did, while you protect them because you like living in a one-party country. (you'd think you'd move someplace where thats the idea...you could go to China! Please?) 4) Hey, at least he's not getting drunk and stoned with prostitutes in exchange for putting in big fat earmarks, huh? Like a half a dozen of your folks? Lets hear you defend the duke some more. Don't I remember you saying he was the victim of a witch hunt or something? Frank,
1) Thats one guy.
2) What happened to “innocent until proven guilty”? Not that I’m really against having an informed opionion on the guy’s guilt, but hey, you’re always whining about it with your cadre of corrupt congressmen, so I figured you might want to stop being a hypocrite {long moment of laughter, followed by slow breath catching. I crack myself up.}
3) You realize that..umm…its your people that are currently doing all the gerrymandering and protectionism that makes it hard to clean house when politicians break the law. Of course, I’m not saying that my side wouldn’t do it too..but the difference is I’d vote the bastards out if they did, while you protect them because you like living in a one-party country. (you’d think you’d move someplace where thats the idea…you could go to China! Please?)
4) Hey, at least he’s not getting drunk and stoned with prostitutes in exchange for putting in big fat earmarks, huh? Like a half a dozen of your folks? Lets hear you defend the duke some more. Don’t I remember you saying he was the victim of a witch hunt or something?

]]> By: SaveFarris http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/09/the-nugget-of-the-hud-scandal/#comment-33484 SaveFarris Wed, 10 May 2006 13:05:58 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1958#comment-33484 If only Democrats were in charge, then we'd get quality public servants in charge of HUD. Fine, upstanding folk like Henry Cisneros... If only Democrats were in charge, then we’d get quality public servants in charge of HUD. Fine, upstanding folk like Henry Cisneros…

]]> By: Frank_D http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/09/the-nugget-of-the-hud-scandal/#comment-33483 Frank_D Wed, 10 May 2006 04:05:08 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1958#comment-33483 Ooooh! A politician broke the law! OhmyGawd! That's the first time that ever happened -- today! Wake up and smell the "spoils system." May I remind you: Who do you know that got stoned, crashed into a police barricade, staggered out of his car smelling of booze, got no sobriety test, and got a ride home from the Police? Was it: 1) Your friend Ralph 2) Your Uncle Pete -- you know, the one that gets drunk at all the parties 3) A Congressman from Rhode Island. Give up? Ooooh! A politician broke the law! OhmyGawd! That’s the first time that ever happened — today!

Wake up and smell the “spoils system.”

May I remind you: Who do you know that got stoned, crashed into a police barricade, staggered out of his car smelling of booze, got no sobriety test, and got a ride home from the Police?
Was it:
1) Your friend Ralph
2) Your Uncle Pete — you know, the one that gets drunk at all the parties
3) A Congressman from Rhode Island.

Give up?

]]> By: TomY http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/09/the-nugget-of-the-hud-scandal/#comment-33482 TomY Wed, 10 May 2006 02:05:29 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1958#comment-33482 I thought his mistake was to break the law. And then brag about it to journalists. And to put the Republican party ahead of country. Are those mistakes in the GOP Twilight Zone? I thought his mistake was to break the law. And then brag about it to journalists. And to put the Republican party ahead of country. Are those mistakes in the GOP Twilight Zone?

]]> By: Frank_D http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/09/the-nugget-of-the-hud-scandal/#comment-33481 Frank_D Wed, 10 May 2006 01:05:45 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1958#comment-33481 If only we had a sterling HUD Secretary like Andrew Cuomo. Jackson made one mistake In the words of <i>The Dirty Dozen</i>'s Major Reisman (Lee Marvin) to Wladislaw (Charles Bronson): "You made one mistake ... You got caught" If only we had a sterling HUD Secretary like Andrew Cuomo.

Jackson made one mistake
In the words of The Dirty Dozen’s Major Reisman (Lee Marvin) to Wladislaw (Charles Bronson): “You made one mistake … You got caught”

]]> By: garth http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/05/09/the-nugget-of-the-hud-scandal/#comment-33480 garth Wed, 10 May 2006 00:05:10 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1958#comment-33480 Blah blah blah AD HOMINEM! blah blah blah YOU LIBERALS blah blah MOONBATS! sorry, i was feeling my inner 'winger. note no grumpy "but it's not illegal" whining on this post? feh. Blah blah blah AD HOMINEM! blah blah blah YOU LIBERALS blah blah MOONBATS!

sorry, i was feeling my inner ‘winger. note no grumpy “but it’s not illegal” whining on this post? feh.

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