If there was a CIA-Congress-Defense Contractor scandal involving bribery, prostitutes and other illegal activity when Democrats were in the majority we’d be hearing about it over and over. As it is now, you’ve got to dig deep for this stuff.
A law enforcement official says the number-three man at the C-I-A is under F-B-I scrutiny.
Executive Director Kyle Foggo is already under investigation by the agency’s inspector general because of his friendship with a San Diego businessman linked to a congressional bribery scandal.Another official says Foggo will also retire from the C-I-A because his boss, Porter Goss, quit Friday.
The F-B-I probe reportedly targets Foggo’s relationship with Brent Wilkes, a man identified in court papers as an unindicted coconspirator in the bribery probe.
Christ. Do your jobs.
Lapdogs : How the Press Rolled Over for Bush
You’ve got to look deep to find out about Foggo and Wilkes in the MSM? Seriously?
Once upon a time, the time before the Republican noise machine (the one written about and in no small part created by your boss), right-wingers howled that the press never reported the news they wanted to hear. So you know what they did? They created the Republican noise machine.
Oh, yeah…
The other hidden story…
It’s probably on the agenda right behind their planned in-depth look into Patrick Kennedy.
What kind of pain killers was he addicted to anyway? Probably not…
Oxycontin?
Nah.
Yeah, riiight!
Real deep…
Frank, rather than demonstrating how clever you are with googled stories, how about addressing Oliver’s very valid point that “If there was a CIA-Congress-Defense Contractor scandal involving bribery, prostitutes and other illegal activity when Democrats were in the majority we d be hearing about it over and over”?
Key-rice-tah.
The Dems were investigated for abusing the Post Office…THE F*CKING POST OFFICE, and yet the trolls really expect to be taken seriously when they try to downplay the whole hooker story.
What if one of the hookers was a foreign operative? Yeah, okay, bad Grisham/Clancy novel, but what if? What if a foreign agent got photographs of the agents in question and tried to blackmail them? Again, unlikely, but can anyone really say with a straight face that having high level members of the C-I-freaking-A compromising themselves in such a fashion isn’t serious news? What if the hookers were bait to trap high level officials as part of the ongoing feud between the CIA, State, and the current administration? Oh wait…
And don’t forget, it was a significant ethics breach that should have had its own special prosecutor when Al Gore made fundraising calls from the wrong telephone.
There are more plot twists in this convoluted saga than in an Agatha
Christie murder mystery.
Christ! Three years ago I said the Bush Gang would make the
Nixon criminals and the Reagan indictees look like kids swiping
candy from the Five and Dime, but I had no friggin’ idea how
bad it was going to be.
I am sure that the corporate press/media will get on this story just as soon as they have squeezed every detail out of the Kennedy car crash scandal that has the nation riveted.
Hey Frank,
here’s the list of MSM outlets from one of the pages you linked to (Googel News);
Glasgow Daily Record
The Moderate Voice
KVOA.com, AZ
Capitol Hill Blue, VA
Washington Post, United States
Free Market News Network
Seattle Post Intelligencer
Arkansas Democrat-Gazette
The MIT Tech, MA
Think Progress, DC
Slate
New York Times
International Herald Tribune
Dallas Morning News
The Nation
Project on Government Oversight
WorldNetDaily, OR
AlterNet, CA
Times Herald-Record, NY
San Francisco Chronicle
About – News & Issues, NY
Newsday, NY
Austin American-Statesman (subscription), TX
The Porterville Recorder, CA
BTC News
NBC Sandiego.com, CA
And this proves the story is being heavily covered by the Main Stream Media how, exactly?
Hey, roni… Are you asking me a serious question?
Holy crap!
Stop the presses!
Even though you couldn’t help but include a wise ass remark about googling the names of the two people in question — thus proving that the story was indeed being covered — you finally participated in the blog!
First of all, I could say that, like so many other commenters, lefties and righties alike, I picked the part of the post I chose to comment about…
As to your question, and Oliver’s point – “If there was a … scandal involving … Democrats … we d be hearing about it over and over,” I partially answered it already by pointing out the hundreds, and in one case, thousands, of outlets covering the story. As to whether or not this story would get similar coverage if Democrats were involved, I don’t know. Neither does Oliver, or anyone else in this thread.
I think for real evidence to support such an idea, you’d have to point to a similar scandal among Republicans that got minimal coverage.
This story has by no means “played out” yet.
In my view, news stories are a matter of prioroity. When this story is deemed “important enough”, i.e., more important than other stories — like Kennedy’s latest losing battle with drugs, or who’s getting shot on “Lost” — then it will get covered, and covered, and covered, and covered — until some dizzy coed gets lost in the Caribbean!
Is that a sign that the press “favors” Republicans? I don’t think so.
Is it a sign that the press thinks their average reader (or TV news viewer) can’t chew gum and walk? Bingo!
Impor
KVOA.com, AZ – TV station in Arizona
Washington Post – MSM
Seattle Post Intelligencer – MSM
Arkansas Democrat-Gazette – MSM
New York Times – MSM
International Herald Tribune – MSM
Dallas Morning News – MSM
The Nation – MSM
Times Herald-Record, NY – MSM
San Francisco Chronicle – MSM
Newsday, NY – MSM
Austin American-Statesman (subscription), TX – MSM
NBC Sandiego.com, CA – TV San Diego
You were saying?
In order for the point to be “valid” you (or Oliver) would need to show that the story is NOT being reported. Please inform us as to which media sources are ignoring the story. Or can you not really validate the point with, you know, evidence?
Another comment bites the dust…
Kinda ironic.
Ollie won’t talk about Mollohan until the “facts are in”….but “Hookergate”?
Shooting his electronic mouth right off, and bitching out the media cause they won’t pipe up ENOUGH….
This site has become tediously predictable…
drpedro Says:
May 9th, 2006 at 9:58 am
Kinda ironic.
Ollie won t talk about Mollohan until the facts are in & .but Hookergate ? Shooting his electronic mouth right off, and bitching out the media cause they won t pipe up ENOUGH& .
This site has become tediously predictable&
Why do you spend any time reading and responding to posts if this blog is tediously predictable?
I haven’t heard about the hooker angle in any news outlet. Frank, could you provide an actual link rather than just naming newspapers and asserting that they’ve covered Hookergate?
TomY, Frank DID provide a link. Here it is again.
MSNBC
Fox News
NY Times
Detroit Free Press
LA Times
CBS
CNN
Man! I wish this people would do their jobs!
None of my friends had heard about it as of last night
All two of them?
I’m kidding! Just kidding, but you created the opening.
Also, I think Hookergate is a misleading name for the scandal, should it prove to be true. The hookers may be tantalizing, but giving out defense/intelligence contracts to corrupt cronies is the heart of it. So it needs a better, pithier name, like CronyGate, ContractGate, or RepublicansarefundamentallyunseriousaboutnationalsecurityGate.
Don’t worry Roni, I am growing more bored with Ollie and his Echo Chamber. Used to be decent discussion, now it is just the Oliver beating his chest hoping for a job in a presumptive Democratic administration egged on by his band of thoughtless sycophants….
You’ll be missed, Dr. Pablo!
Enough Already…
If there is one thing that I cannot comprehend, are liberals and
Democrats complaining about the press and the coverage of the Bush
administration. Aside from September of 2001 to late 2002, the press
has been has been nothing but hostile to this ad…
Frank-
Your definition of the MSM is wide and deep. By perusing your list we find a lack of press coverage in Boston, Chicago, Atlanta, St. Louis, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Philly, Miami, New Orleans, Minneapolis, Cincinnati, Buffalo, Baltimore, North and South Carolina, Austin, Houston, Memphis, Salt Lake City, Las Vegas, etc. Again hardly widespread. By the way have you read the SF Chronicle lately? A collection of clumsily edited wire stories does not make it MSM to me, but you’ve proven many times in the past that reality is an impediment to your debating style. Another blowhard hoist on his own petard! PS. most of the links cited mentioned Dusty Foggo but didn’t mention the hookers though that is now creeping in thanks to its widespread knowledge on ‘leftie’ blogs. I’d like to think that you’re just doing your part to spread awareness of this Republican bribery and sex scandal. Thanks for the help, though I think it may have been inadvertent.
Oliver asks: “Where are the stories about Hookergate?”
Frank responds: “Look at all these stories about Kyle Foggo and Brent Wilkes!”
Can anyone spot the disconnect?
The disconnect is right here
Your question again?
Impor: Did you read all those stories? I sure didn’t…
I did notice on your list that the story wasn’t covered in Austin
You must have meant some other Austin
From your list: Austin American-Statesman (subscription), TX
Dude…try google. Here’s Boston. If Oliver allowed multiple links without waiting for moderation I’d give you the rest of the cities.
Seriously, can any of you on the left do the simplest of research? Every paper has mentioned Foggo, Wilkes, and prostitutes in the same article.
JWG: It’s obviously more important to catch me being wronng, than it is to get at the truth.
If 892 hits on Google news — not Google, mind you — and over 1100 hits on the second name, isn’t coverage, then there’s no point in continuing.
Frank_D Says:
May 9th, 2006 at 8:23 pm
JWG: It s obviously more important to catch me being wronng, than it is to get at the truth. If 892 hits on Google news not Google, mind you and over 1100 hits on the second name, isn t coverage,
THEN THERE’S NO POINT IN CONTINUING.
But that doesn’t stop you, does it, Frank? If you fundamentally disagree with Oliver and the majority of posters on Oliver’s blog, why, Why, WHY do you persist making comments?
drpedro Says:
May 9th, 2006 at 11:42 am
Don t worry Roni, I am growing more bored with Ollie and his Echo Chamber. Used to be decent discussion, now it is just the Oliver beating his chest hoping for a job in a presumptive Democratic administration egged on by his band of thoughtless sycophants& .
PHEWF, drpedro, I’m not ‘worried’ anymore. LOL. If your persistent participation in Oliver’s threads is a reflection of how bored you are with his blog, it would be interesting to know how uninvolved you are with issues you find fascinating. Like being a doctor, for example.
Hey Fellas- This is the part of my comment you should think about, “I d like to think that you re just doing your part to spread awareness of this Republican bribery and sex scandal. Thanks for the help, though I think it may have been inadvertent.” It is becoming obvious to me how truly inadvertent it is. Do you realize that you’re making a compendium of links that advertise the fact that it is very likely that Republican members of Congress and the CIA are deeply involved in a scandal involving prostitutes, bribery, insider contracts with unvetted ex-felons at the Homeland Security Department and cronyism at the CIA? Again I say thanks for the help. I’ll be sending those links on to my conservative friends sitting on the fence. You are living proof of the truth of this blog’s title. Sorry Oliver, it was just to true not to point it out.
Roni, you witless moron: I meant commenting on this thread. I wasn’t banishing myself to Siberia. If you persist in commenting on commenters, without ever commenting on a topic, why, Why, WHY do you persist in making comments?
Impor: Those links exist on the Internet. Perhaps you think that I labored for hours to find them (maybe you think it’s magic*), but actually it involved about 4 steps, and three minutes work.
If you choose to think of that as a great, “inadvertent” contribution to the Quixotic cause of “bringing down Bush before 2008,” I pity you.
* Arthur C. Clarke’s Third Law:
“Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.”
Frank_D Says:
May 10th, 2006 at 12:14 am
Roni, you witless moron: I meant commenting on this thread.
LOL … I know you were commenting on the thread, Frank. It’s just fun to fuck with the vacuous space you rent in your head.
It s just fun to fuck with the vacuous space you rent in your head.
The ignorant are easily amused.
Frank_D Says:
May 10th, 2006 at 2:05 am
It s just fun to fuck with the vacuous space you rent in your head.
The ignorant are easily amused.
Frank, just wondering if your response to JK is your definition of intelligent, versus ignorant, input …?
Frank_D Says:
May 9th, 2006 at 4:44 pm
JK, the whole Let s send Frank to Australia game began with the idea that you were so much smarter than everyone, that it would please you greatly if everyone who was less smart than you would leave the country.
After reading your posts for a while, I m convinced that there aren t really very many people in the world less smart than you.
If we were to remove from that group the people who have no desire to go to Australia, we could probably get them on one of those small jets that seats about 16 – 24 passengers.
Since there are so many, many, many, people who are smarter than you, and so very, very, very few people who want to go to Australia, I suggest you join them.
I ll bet you, if we passed the hat around only this blog, we could dig up the price of a ticket for you in no time.
Don t leave without this.
Correct answer, Frank.
When we’re looking for stories that indicate “mainstream media” interest in Foggo and Wilkes, you point us to 2,000 hits on Google News.
When we’re looking for stories on HookerGate, you point us to one story at a TV station in Montana.
You have correctly identified the disconnect between Oliver’s question and your response.
When we re looking for stories on HookerGate, you point us to one story at a TV station in Montana.
Quaker, you’re slipping! I was pointing out that the names came from the article Oliver originally posted!
And, the name “HookerGate” hasn’t caught on. Perhaps because “_____Gate” is overused?
Roni, you still here?
Good grief Quaker…you’re usually smarter than this. Name a mainstream news source that has NOT reported on Foggo and Wilkes being invloved in/investigated for prostitution. In reality, they are all reporting on the prostitution angle.
Thanks for the heads up about Google Frank. I’d never heard of it before. Just an off topic question for you here. Do you know what a gopher is, or archie?
Considering you didn’t know how to use it to know about all the media outlets reporting on the Foggo/Wilkes prostitution connections, you “inadvertantly” made yourself look fairly ignorant. Those of us pointing out the media reports were not “inadvertantly” making Republicans look bad since they were doing that themselves and the media was already reporting it.
Thanks for reminding me: I found this:
http://www.ed.gov/pubs/TeachersGuide/index.html
Gopher is not “a gopher”. Gopher and archie (without looking them up) are old browser prototypes, like the original, mosaic.
Now I’ll look them up:
You were right, and so was I. There is “a gopher” and “gopher”:
My Internet experience began with Netscape, before Gates came out with Internet Explorer.
Now I use Mozilla, and rely on newsletters from Talia Calishain, Gary Price and Chris Sherman, as well as other not so great “search engine luminaries” to keep up with the web, hidden, and not hidden.
Just tried Goss prostitue… got SIX!
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&lr=&newwindow=1&c2coff=1&tab=wn&ie=UTF-8&q=goss+prostitute&btnG=Search+News
Kinda paltry to be considered widespread coverage eh? Man this Google thing is neato!
I’ve gotta give Frank credit, he knew what I was referring to.
Hey Fellas,
You searched for Foggo and got lots of hits. I just searched for Foggo prostitute and got SEVEN! Try plugging this in your browser of choice. Being one of those annoying Apple folks mine is Safari.
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&lr=&newwindow=1&safe=off&c2coff=1&q=foggo%20prostitute&btnG=Search&sa=N&tab=wn
Kinda slim pickins eh?
Next time you’re giving me a test, be kind enough to let me know…
“Duke Cunningham” +Foggo
about 487 hits
“Duke Cunningham” +Wilkes
about 583 hits
Impor: You’re like the drunk looking for his dropped car keys down the block from where his car was, under the streetlight, because that’s where the light was!
Frank, you test people all the time and rip them to shreads when they don’t pass with flying colors, and particularly when they don’t agree with you.
Kudos to you and Impor for sharing information.
Frank- you are either an idiot or a dissembler, the original post was called “Hookergate: When Will The Press Start Following This?” and this thread is about prostitutes as they relate to Porter Goss and Dusty Foggo being at parties thrown by Wilkes where there were PROSTITUES in attendance, HOOKERS, LADIES OF THE NIGHT, HOS, STRUMPETS, WOMEN OF EASY VIRTUE. Googling;
Duke Cunningham +Foggo
about 487 hits
Duke Cunningham +Wilkes
about 583 hits
doesn’t give any indication of how many stories about PROSTITUES and Porter Goss’s reasons for suddenly resigning from the CIA are in the Main Stream Media. Googling;
Goss + prostitue& got SIX!
does! By the way my money is on idiot. Again I ask do you even read the posts before you reply?
Hey freaken google genius, Impor…
Try adding an “s” to prostitute…
“FOGGO WILKES PROSTITUTES” under google news: 866
You owe Frank an apology. You are the idiot. Again.
JWG:
1) Impor is pissed because he set me up for a fall with the Archie and Gopher question, and it didn’t work out like he planned;
2) I already explained that “HookerGate” hadn’t caught on, and it might not, so that looking for it was like looking for it where you wished it was, not where it might be – hence, the “drunk and the streetlight jibe” (”reason” to be pissed off #2);
3) Liberals only apologize to “oppressed minorities”; never to conservatives.
Thanks for jumping in, JWG.