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Coma se yama, “flip-flop?”
Don’t forget, the goal posts have been moved. It’s no longer that the words are in Spanish, but that they changed the words!!11!
Never mind that by definition, when you put new lyrics to an old melody, you have a new song.
Example: new lyrics were put to the melody of To Anacreon in Heaven, giving us the Star Spangled Banner. Two different songs.
So once again, and slowly, the…National…Anthem…was…not…changed.
I’m with Frank on this one. What it’s all about is whatever Frank says it’s about. They changed the words to a sacred song that was itself a work of plagiarism, or at least clearly lifted from an old drinking chanty. No one should be allowed to change the words. It bothers Frank.
It seems as if Bush says any old thing they put in front of him. I think his memory must be shot. Now if he would only forget about invading Iran.
deus: No one moved the goalposts. I’ve never said the Star Spangled Banner shouldn’t be translated into Spanish, although Lee Harris makes a good argument, on aesthetic grounds, why it shouldn’t be done.
No one ever said it was illegal, or immoral.
and beans: What I said, and what seems to be the case, is that it has disturbed a number of people — not just me.
So: slowly for the imbecilic lefties who inhabit these threads: The words of the National Anthem were changed to promote a political cause, while keeping the melody to wrap the change in a patriotic cloak.
It is my understanding — correct me if I’m wrong — that neither the author of To Anacreon in Heaven, nor his estate, has filed suit with regard to the royalties fom use of the melody.
BTW, if the “back story” to all this silliness on the part of you lefties is your way of saying, “We really don’t care what anyone does with or to the Star Spangled Banner, ” then have the balls to say that, instead of mocking those who do care.
It’s all the same to you, right? “It’s just a song.” “The flag is just a piece of cloth.” “There’s nothing worth fighting for.” “There are really no such things as borders, or countries.”
Very reasonable. Very sterile. Very coldblooded.
sundown: I think not.
I agree.
I still think we ought to be singing the original lyrics. They rule! But I doubt that Pat Robertson and James Dobson– let alone Gloria Steinem or Andrea Dworkin– would get behind them.
Let’s review the original lyrics to our precious, priceless national anthem:
A group of rich, classically-educated prep-school frat-boys contact the ghost of a long-dead greek poet, to ask him for permission to use his name for their frat.
The long-dead poet replies, “Yeah, dude! And, what’s more, I’ll teach you how to get sorority girls drunk and take advantage of them!
The Greco-Roman gods find out about this, and Zeus decides it’s irresponsible to give these frat-boys such powers. For the next two verses, they do what Greco-Roman gods do: they meddle in the matters of morals, and bicker viciously among themselves.
Finally, with the intervention of Jupiter, they agree to let the old dead poet teach the frat-boys how to get laid in style. The frat boys cheer with glee! Dude! The Gods have blessed us and our righteous party!
And onward they party, slipping roofies into drinks and deflowering sorority girls: intwining the Myrtle of Venus with Bacchus’s vine.
That is our fucking national anthem. I am so not kidding.
I don’t know what else someone would call the flag.
Is it a living plant? Is it an animal?
Is it dessert toping? Is it a detergent?
I think not.
Symbols have power, but putting too much stock in any one is silly. America would be America if we had no flag or anthem, and the principles on which the country were founded would be worth fighting for regardless.
So people burn flags, and possibly mock the anthem. Stop being so sensitive and insecure about it, you crybabies. It’s a detail. It’s surface. America can handle it even if some Americans simply can’t.
The words of the National Anthem were changed to promote a political cause, while keeping the melody to wrap the change in a patriotic cloak.
And for the umpteenth time, this is objectionable because….? You have provided neither moral, legal nor even rational arguments for your outrage.
It is my understanding correct me if I m wrong that neither the author of To Anacreon in Heaven, nor his estate, has filed suit with regard to the royalties fom use of the melody.
I’d guess that melody is considered public domain already and well past its copyright expiration. Which brings up another thing the GOP has been pushing recently – extending artistic copyrights well beyond historic norms so as to benefit Disney and TimeWarner. It’s simple, really. If it involves creating barriers to competition and concentrating wealth, the GOP is all for it.
It s all the same to you, right? It s just a song. “The flag is just a piece of cloth. There s nothing worth fighting for. There are really no such things as borders, or countries. Very reasonable. Very sterile. Very coldblooded.
From someone who likes to accuse others of being histrionic, that last paragraph does a pretty good job of flying off its hinge. The only thing you missed was the part about how we like to barbeque babies roasted over a bonfire of USA flags and King James Bibles. Yummy.
deus: If I am upset by what has been done, what could possibly be accomplished by explaining what bothers me to people who don’t care?
It is quite clear to me that most of the comments neither understand nor appreciate what was done.
For two days, commenters insisted that I, and others, were objecting to the translation of the National Anthem, when we were not, and we said so.
Now, you — who were one of them [Don t forget, the goal posts have been moved. It s no longer that the words are in Spanish, but that they changed the words!!], want to know the source of my outrage? Why?
Interestingly, your problem with the last sentence of my comment is that it seems histrionic.
Sundown {I don t know what else someone would call the flag.} didn’t think it was histrionic.
My wife and I have grown up and lived most of our lives right on the poverty line, amongst people who are generally looked upon as less than, including our new neighbors, mostly Mexican Hispanics, often joke about white people meaning middle and upper middle class white folks, who do all the silly things that people of color make fun of.
You see, this is why I keep asking why you’re outraged. It’s really not about “changing words” now, is it? It’s more about your issues with Mexican Hispanics, as you put it.
You raise an interesting point. I am sure that I, and America, can “survive it.”
But is that what we’re supposed to do?
While people who, by their own admission, were uninvited, seem determined to have their stay here legalized without taking appropriate steps to do so, and are marching under banners that say, “This country belongs to us,” and “You should go back where came from!” (in effect) are changing the words of our National Anthem, and march under foreign flags, while demanding unearned citizenship; we should do nothing?
Just grin and bear it?
My wife and I have grown up and lived most of our lives right on the poverty line, amongst people who are generally looked upon as “less than,” including our new neighbors, mostly Mexican Hispanics, often joke about “white people” meaning middle and upper middle class white folks, who do all the silly things that people of color make fun of.
One of those of those things is having a resigned attitude towards things that ought to enrage them.
One of my best riddles is
Q. What will the epitaph be on the tombstone of the last white man, when he is dead and buried?
A. Mmm, OK…
Estupido, muy estupido.
Just be honest and say you hate hispanics.
Those of us with a half a brain know that America is clearly better off for the influence of hispanics, africans, carribean people, asians, europeans (even the French!).
It was once referred to as a melting pot. It’s what makes us great. Xenophobes need not apply.
It s more about your issues with Mexican Hispanics, as you put it.
It is?
Tell me more — I can’t wait…
And what’s wrong with referring to ‘Mexican’ Hispanics, as opposed to the Hispanics from other countries who are my neighbors?
You know, the ones I have hated and / or have had issues with for the last 15 plus years I’ve lived in this neighborhood?
Oliver, why don’t you just be honest and say you hate whites, except for the guy who signs your paycheck?
Or is all that “I hate whitey” business just overcompensation?
And, I guess your idea of a “melting pot” is deciding who ‘need not apply.’
Shorter Frank: Hey you goddamn kids, get off my lawn!
duros62: What are you talking about now?
Mexicans and other Hispanic nationals are getting preferential immigration treatment, say…
Black leaders
Why don’t they just admit it…? They hate Hispanics
Hehe
Happy cinco de mayo, Franco_D.