McCarthy Says She’s Not The Leak
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The fired official, Mary O. McCarthy, categorically denies being the source of the leak, one of McCarthy s friends and former colleagues, Rand Beers, said Monday after speaking to McCarthy. Beers said he could not elaborate on this denial and McCarthy herself did not respond to a request for comment left by NEWSWEEK on her home answering machine. A national security advisor to Democratic Party candidate John Kerry during the 2004 presidential campaign, Beers worked as the head of intelligence programs on President Bill Clinton s National Security Council staff and later served as a top deputy on counter-terrorism for President Bush in 2002 and 2003. McCarthy, a career CIA analyst, initially worked as a deputy to Beers on the NSC and later took over Beer s role as the Clinton NSC s top intelligence expert.
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She lied right up to the point they put the polygraph leads on her, why would I believe her now….
How about J.F’ing Kerry and his latest over the weekend…”Divulging classified materials is against the law and wrong…unless of course it puts Bush and the United States in a bad light, then it is ok, sometimes, well, if you punish the person doing it, which they deserve, unless it is true…well, you know what I mean….”
Shorter: “I was for divulging classified material before I was against it…”
April 24, 2006 – A former CIA officer who was sacked last week after allegedly confessing to leaking secrets has denied she was the source of a controversial Washington Post story about alleged CIA secret detention operations in Eastern Europe, a friend of the operative told NEWSWEEK.
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Beers said he could not elaborate on this denial and McCarthy herself did not respond to a request for comment left by NEWSWEEK on her home answering machine.
Oh, please. Spare me.
Here we again — did someone say “Karl Rove”?
Well, for me one of the heartening things about all of this has been progressive’s rage at McCarthy. I mean the CIA determined she was the leaker and fired her. I thought originally that just maybe the whole Plame thing was a witch hunt to get Bush and that they really weren’t at all worried about our intelligence services. But, wow, progressives have spoken with one might voice condemning the act of this rank parisan and again expressing their deep abiding concern about our intelliegence services.
What? Excuse me. Is that contract ready to sign? I get the bridge and everything?
Dugger
Touchy,touchy…..
so did you agree with Kerry then? :0
Sure, and Condi didn’t leak either, just ask her spokesperson.
What’s good for the goose…
McCarthy says she’s innocent and offers no proof? Innocent!!!! Quit hounding this fine upstanding woman!
Tom Delay say he’s innocent and offers concrete proof? Skip the Trial!!! Burn him at the stake and piss on his ashes!!!
This post truly is hack-tastic.
Leave the F’ing Kerry childishness back at Free Republic where it belongs, thanks.
Or, there is hardly anything to say when your opponent is correct, and you can’t actually mount a cogent argument….
But, wow, progressives have spoken with one might voice condemning the act of this rank parisan and again expressing their deep abiding concern about our intelliegence services.
Dugger;
Just like you we sit back and watch the venality flow like a river. There is hardly anything left to say about lynchmobs when they
get going
Leaking information about an illegal and despicable program is an act of patriotism. Selecting leaking information to bamboozle the public about the rationale for war is pathetic. The law is the law and McCarthy has to pay for leaking classified information (assuming she leaked the info about the prisons). But let’s not fool ourselves into thinking that McCarthy’s leak is morally objectionable like the Bushian leaks of the NIE, or Rove’s (or Libby’s) leak of Plame’s name in order to smear a war critic.
“A counter-terrorism official acknowledged to NEWSWEEK today that in firing McCarthy, the CIA was not necessarily accusing her of being the principal, original, or sole leaker of any particular story. Intelligence officials privately acknowledge that key news stories about secret agency prison and “rendition” operations have been based, at least in part, upon information available from unclassified sources.”
Ooops, the information was available in part from unclassified sources? Doh!
holy crap batman….another “sea of modifiers” left wing propaganda piece……
Lets count them, shall we?
not necessarily (but possibly!), accusing (no need to accuse, she admitted guilt!), the principle (no, just one of many Clintonista traitors), original(no, she was the second), or sole (nope, just one of many), of a particular story (i.e. there are more to come), key news stories (as to opposed to the ho-hum run of the mill stories involving secret government operations), at least in part(yea, the really small parts like the admission that the CIA is involved in anti-terrorism overseas)
Gee that was fun! See, lefties can tell the truth too…as long as it is a well-parsed truth!
This isn’t interesting.
Most guilty people claim innocence. It’s how you play the game.
Yeah, pedro, that’s almost as bad as “weapons of mass destruction program related activities” and “we never said Saddam was an imminent threat, we said he was an imminent threat of being an imminent threat” . I don’t blame you for being confused.
Except it wasn’t a “lefty” who said that suff, it was a “counter-terrorism official”.
Most guilty people claim innocence. It s how you play the game.
Ah, so claiming to be innocent is a sure sign of guilt, because an innocent person would never claim to be innocent, since everyone would immediately know that means they are guilty.
Do I have that right?
Is that contract ready to sign? I get the bridge and everything?
You’ve had it long enough. Time to give it back.
What? You sold it to Pedro and doubled your money?
She now “categorically denies” being the leaker for the Eastern European prisons case. Moreover, the CIA doesn’t even claim that McCarthy was fired for leaking the prison story to Dana Priest. Apparently, McCarthy was fired for maintaining generally unreported media contacts – which is somewhat common though a violation of Agency rules and resulted in her dismissal – and that the prison case had nothing to do with it. It looks like the frothing right-wing idiotsphere jumped all over her for the wrong reason.
Here is the wapo link. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/24/AR2006042401601.html
Yes, repack, you do have it right… That thinking has fueled the left wing engines since WaterGate
elrod,
Says that some leaking is OK other leaking bad. If what is leaked is something politically or otherwise that he likes, why that leak is OK. Is that the way it works?. The Elrods or Duggers or Mitters of the world get to independently decide what secrets can be leaked without penalty and which can’t? Isn’t that nice. Well, I htink I have a clue why the CIA doesn’t work so well – let wing ideologues!
And, furdamore, no crime of leaking has been alleged by the special prosecutor Plame. Not a single leak crime, not one.
Very Bad Typist Dugger – Famous infield combo: McCarthy to Beers to Perp Walk
Watch as the subject is, once again, diverted to another tired retread of the Plame controversy.
Once again, the facts, which in this case amount to growing evidence that McCarthy was fired for reasons other than the leak about the secret (and illegal) prisons, are ignored.
It’s not like Bush has a history of purging those he feels are disloyal. The recent inquiries from the administration to the CIA concerning the political affiliation of senior intelligence officials would seem to indicate that McCarthy’s firing is the start of a purge. Statements from White House officials saying that her firing is “only the beginning” would underscore that assumption. It is important to note that Ms. McCarthy was on the verge of retirement, so firing her rather than letting her resign has the added bonus of undoubtedly putting any pension she may have been counting on at risk. Think there might be a message to other concerned CIA personnel about the risks of exposing this administration’s illegal activities buried in there somewhere? I eagerly await the comedy to come in the form of comments claiming that there are “proper channels” for airing complaints rather than leaking to the press. As I have established in other threads, this administrations has been utterly hostile to contrary opinions on every level from the environment to Medicaire and hasn’t refrained from threatenting dismissal or prosecution to those that try to work within the system. Really, why would anyone go to the press if there was an effective method for fixing the problem internally? Ever increasing problems with leaks tend to imply the system is broken, not the opposite. Cue “Bush hater” crap non-responses.
After all, we’ve got a new war with Iran to sell, and this time, we’ll make damn sure there are no Joe Wilsons around to rock the boat.
Dugger,
Politics enters everything we do. That’s life in a democracy, much as we like to convince ourselves that there was an era where politics somehow ended at the “water’s edge.” That said, I don’t think McCarthy, or whoever leaked the secret prisons, is great because they embarrassed Bush. I think they’re great because they exposed a violation of US law against torture. I’m not obtuse enough to believe that a Democratic Administration wouldn’t be cavalier about human rights as well. I’d hope that some conscientious CIA officer would do the same in that case as well. But as the WaPo article suggests, it looks increasingly likely that McCarthy was fired for something totally unrelated to the secret prisons.
Read the second hand account of the McCarthy denial carefully. Sounds like parsing to me. She failed lie detector tests and she has left wing political connections.
And no matter what, you can’t have it both ways. You, of the left, cannot dictate what rules can be arbitrarily broken, what secrets can be arbitrarily leaked just because you happen to agree with the action. You really think thats OK? Who gets to decide in your world which secrets can be tossed out? Is it the individual leaker and his or her conscience? Do they all, have to have left wing credentials or be blessed bya left wing panel? If Scooter Libby had illegally leaked something, do you really believe, in his heart, he thought he was doing something bad?
Dugger, You are Smarter than this Elrod
quickie,
Not really. If Libby had actually leaked (as in breaking the law ‘leaked’), he deserves punishment. If he lied he will get the punishment he deserves. And I have yet to hear the calls for anything to be done to McCarthy – your lynching. The CIA, as a result of an internal action, fired her. Libby/Plame was a cause celebre among leftist polticians and Big Media. Remember Lil Joe Wilson crowing about seeing Karl Rove do the ‘perp walk’?
Dugger
Repack:
You missed my point which is probably me not explaining it well enough. I was trying to say that it is not interesting, because everyone is going to claim innocence (the guilty and the innocent). The story doesn’t tell us anything anyone wouldn’t expect.
If McCarthy was a Republican, would your answers be any different?
I find it interesting that the leak itself becomes more important that what was uncovered.
“Who gets to decide in your world which secrets can be tossed out? Is it the individual leaker and his or her conscience?
Shortest possible answer: Yes.”
But they then have to be willing to take responsibility for their actions, too.
Shortest possible answer: Yes.
Yes, they do.
Quaker,
Disagree. If you (an individual) live in a democratic society, you have a moral obligation to obey the laws of that society – even the ones you don’t like. Unless the laws rise to the level of crimes against humanity, you have, by consciously disobeying said laws, put yourself and your own selfishness above the prinicpal of democracy and your society.
Dugger, Yes, I think Thoreau was wrong
More important quaker, if you believe what you say then you should never sign an oath promising not to reveal those secrets
Unless you believe a (wo)man’s word should be worthless?
If you have clearness in your perception of Truth, you have a moral obligation to speak up, even if doing so is against the law.
Don’t know much about Quakers, do you?
We don’t do oaths.
Are these conservo-fascists certain that the prosecution and defense of McCarthy will not release a lot of damning information that otherwise could have remained under their rug? Libby’s defense has not helped the image of Bush and Cheney. McCarthy can do more damage to the WH under indictment than if they leave her alone.
Dugger Says:
April 25th, 2006 at 10:41 am
Read the second hand account of the McCarthy denial carefully. Sounds like parsing to me. She failed lie detector tests and she has left wing political connections.
And no matter what, you can t have it both ways. You, of the left, cannot dictate what rules can be arbitrarily broken, what secrets can be arbitrarily leaked just because you happen to agree with the action. You really think thats OK? Who gets to decide in your world which secrets can be tossed out? Is it the individual leaker and his or her conscience? Do they all, have to have left wing credentials or be blessed bya left wing panel? If Scooter Libby had illegally leaked something, do you really believe, in his heart, he thought he was doing something bad?
Dugger, You are Smarter than this Elrod
As opposed to you of the right, who believe that Putsch can dictate what rules can be arbitrarily broken by his people, and what secrets can be arbirtrarily leaked because he needs to score partisan political points.
Awful funny how you are very quick to note any alleged parsing coming from those you deem to be of the left, yet the proven parsing from the right does not even register on your radar.
Tom
One day, hopefully, you will become more reasoned. Who is Putsch?? I know no one by that name. It sounds vaguely Nazi and of course compasssionate progressives have long used the Nazi metaphor to describe our soldiers and the current Admin. Is that it, Lil Tom? A big bad snarky Nazi metaphor. If so, pull your pants up, tuck in your shirt, wipe the jam off your face and try soemthing with atcual thought behind it.
Its not awful funny that I note potential parsing from the other side. Its rather logical. I’m a conservative posting on a progressive web site that constantly harps on the evil deeds and parsing of right wingers.
Dugger
Tom, remember the dugger code of ethics. He does not mind a little lawbreaking, as long as the politician in question is conservative enough. On the other hand, left-leaners are fair game and should be proactively investigated to uncover possible wrongdoing.
Hahahahahahahaha! Thank you, buma, for that one!
Just the concept of Dugger having a code of ethics is enough to tickle most funny bones who have seen what passes for logic around here when he starts to spew.
quaker says…”If you have clearness in your perception of Truth, you have a moral obligation to speak up, even if doing so is against the law.”
EXACTLY Quaker, nail on the head……
That individual should either use the legally mandated method of reporting it to congress, OR should stand up in front of god and everyone and announce the Truth. Not scurry around in back alleys trying to protect her pension and security clearance while at the same time lying to collegues and breaking legal contracts
Not scurry around in back alleys trying to protect her pension and security clearance while at the same time lying to collegues and breaking legal contracts
of which, of course you have proof that that is what happened.
Oh so proof is now need here Duros?
You knuckleheads crack me up….as soon as you back yourselves into a rhetorical corner, you started demanding immutable truths.
What a bunch of mental midgets…
Definitely the best way to go about it.
I would agree. But as someone from the “other side of the aisle”, if the alleged action took place, I think you need to be leading the march to have her prosecuted to the full extent of the law.