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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/19/gov-bob-gets-desperate-early/#comment-31011</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How are you going to coerce the voter turnout rate quaker?
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Never said I would. You made that up.

&lt;blockquote&gt;do you mean to seriously suggest that voter turnout is due to the fact that we don t have 24/7 voting booths?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I mean that voter turnout would be higher if polling places were open longer. That&#039;s not too hard for you to understand, is it?

&lt;blockquote&gt;How do they vote in these third world countries you refer to? Are those poor people BETTER at voting than OUR poor people? &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Uh, they actually &lt;em&gt;vote.&lt;/em&gt; It&#039;s a freaking embarrassment that a &quot;big turnout&quot; in our country is 50 percent. Rich people, poor people, middle class people in some countries are &lt;em&gt;way&lt;/em&gt; better at voting.

&lt;blockquote&gt;whats your point?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
My point is that both parties should want more participation from voters. Why is it that one party seems to think it will do better if it can prevent people from voting?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How are you going to coerce the voter turnout rate quaker?
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<p>Never said I would. You made that up.</p>
<blockquote><p>do you mean to seriously suggest that voter turnout is due to the fact that we don t have 24/7 voting booths?</p></blockquote>
<p>I mean that voter turnout would be higher if polling places were open longer. That&#8217;s not too hard for you to understand, is it?</p>
<blockquote><p>How do they vote in these third world countries you refer to? Are those poor people BETTER at voting than OUR poor people? </p></blockquote>
<p>Uh, they actually <em>vote.</em> It&#8217;s a freaking embarrassment that a &#8220;big turnout&#8221; in our country is 50 percent. Rich people, poor people, middle class people in some countries are <em>way</em> better at voting.</p>
<blockquote><p>whats your point?</p></blockquote>
<p>My point is that both parties should want more participation from voters. Why is it that one party seems to think it will do better if it can prevent people from voting?</p>
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		<title>By: Repack Rider</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/19/gov-bob-gets-desperate-early/#comment-31010</link>
		<dc:creator>Repack Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DRPedro: &lt;i&gt;I am a republican, so I believe in personal responsibility&lt;/i&gt;

Please show me some evidence that Republicans believe in taking responsibility for their actions.

As a counter-example, I give you George W. Bush.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DRPedro: <i>I am a republican, so I believe in personal responsibility</i></p>
<p>Please show me some evidence that Republicans believe in taking responsibility for their actions.</p>
<p>As a counter-example, I give you George W. Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: midderpidge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/19/gov-bob-gets-desperate-early/#comment-31009</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 05:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lie, Al Gore did not throw out your military ballot, Gore insisted they be counted despite YOUR personal failure to make sure it met legal requirements like arriving on time, with proper postmarks etc.  The heavily contested absentee ballots were in the two counties were Republican operatives were improperly given access to correct improperly filled out applications, in one county they were handed all incomlete ballots where they completed the Republican ones and THREW AWAY the others.  Brown Shirts, I don&#039;t think it was Gore that rushed a bunch of staffers down to Florida to bang on walls and try to disrupt recounts.  That was Bush&#039;s people.

And DrDoper, again, you take advantage of early voting, now you are saying others shouldn&#039;t be allowed?  I wonder what one word description fits that.  Hypoc-something or other.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lie, Al Gore did not throw out your military ballot, Gore insisted they be counted despite YOUR personal failure to make sure it met legal requirements like arriving on time, with proper postmarks etc.  The heavily contested absentee ballots were in the two counties were Republican operatives were improperly given access to correct improperly filled out applications, in one county they were handed all incomlete ballots where they completed the Republican ones and THREW AWAY the others.  Brown Shirts, I don&#8217;t think it was Gore that rushed a bunch of staffers down to Florida to bang on walls and try to disrupt recounts.  That was Bush&#8217;s people.</p>
<p>And DrDoper, again, you take advantage of early voting, now you are saying others shouldn&#8217;t be allowed?  I wonder what one word description fits that.  Hypoc-something or other.</p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/19/gov-bob-gets-desperate-early/#comment-31008</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea I&#039;d be more convinced of your good will  if I had seen the democrats screaming about &quot;disenfranchisement&quot; in republican districts, or when AlGore and his brown-shirts were throwing out my military ballot in Florida...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea I&#8217;d be more convinced of your good will  if I had seen the democrats screaming about &#8220;disenfranchisement&#8221; in republican districts, or when AlGore and his brown-shirts were throwing out my military ballot in Florida&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wilbur</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/19/gov-bob-gets-desperate-early/#comment-31007</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilbur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 04:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I will suggest what you lefties think is an endpoint&amp; .when the democrats start winning elections.&lt;/i&gt;

Glad to see you admit that more people voting = more democrats in office

But  pay attention, Pedro!  This thread started with Maryland, and in Maryland democrats already win most elections.  Still, all us &quot;lefties&quot; want expanded voting opportunity in Maryland.  We want more people to be able to vote regardless of who wins.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I will suggest what you lefties think is an endpoint&#038; .when the democrats start winning elections.</i></p>
<p>Glad to see you admit that more people voting = more democrats in office</p>
<p>But  pay attention, Pedro!  This thread started with Maryland, and in Maryland democrats already win most elections.  Still, all us &#8220;lefties&#8221; want expanded voting opportunity in Maryland.  We want more people to be able to vote regardless of who wins.</p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grow tired of the quaker innuendo theme....

How are you going to coerce the voter turnout rate quaker?

do you mean to seriously suggest that voter turnout is due to the fact that we don&#039;t have 24/7 voting booths?

How do they vote in these third world countries you refer to?  Are those poor people BETTER at voting than OUR poor people?

whats your point?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grow tired of the quaker innuendo theme&#8230;.</p>
<p>How are you going to coerce the voter turnout rate quaker?</p>
<p>do you mean to seriously suggest that voter turnout is due to the fact that we don&#8217;t have 24/7 voting booths?</p>
<p>How do they vote in these third world countries you refer to?  Are those poor people BETTER at voting than OUR poor people?</p>
<p>whats your point?</p>
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		<title>By: cellulose</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/19/gov-bob-gets-desperate-early/#comment-31005</link>
		<dc:creator>cellulose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Voting is a political issue.

Awesome.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Voting is a political issue.</p>
<p>Awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/19/gov-bob-gets-desperate-early/#comment-31004</link>
		<dc:creator>drpedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, so it will &quot;mandatory voting&quot; eh cracker?

Hmm, what would the founding fathers think of that?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, so it will &#8220;mandatory voting&#8221; eh cracker?</p>
<p>Hmm, what would the founding fathers think of that?</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/19/gov-bob-gets-desperate-early/#comment-31003</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; so it will  mandatory voting &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Who said that?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> so it will  mandatory voting </p></blockquote>
<p>Who said that?</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/19/gov-bob-gets-desperate-early/#comment-31002</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;When do we stop  making it easier ? How  easy  does it need to be?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What? What happened to your mantra of &quot;responsibility&quot;? Surely those early elections should have been held on Monday. &quot;Responsible&quot; citizens would have found a way to get into town to vote. Why should anyone have to &quot;make it easy&quot; for them?

What made voting easy in 1806 doesn&#039;t necessarily apply today, peed&#039;. Can you guess why?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>When do we stop  making it easier ? How  easy  does it need to be?</p></blockquote>
<p>What? What happened to your mantra of &#8220;responsibility&#8221;? Surely those early elections should have been held on Monday. &#8220;Responsible&#8221; citizens would have found a way to get into town to vote. Why should anyone have to &#8220;make it easy&#8221; for them?</p>
<p>What made voting easy in 1806 doesn&#8217;t necessarily apply today, peed&#8217;. Can you guess why?</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/19/gov-bob-gets-desperate-early/#comment-31001</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I will suggest what you lefties think is an endpoint&amp; .&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A voter turnout equal to that in third-world countries?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I will suggest what you lefties think is an endpoint&#038; .</p></blockquote>
<p>A voter turnout equal to that in third-world countries?</p>
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		<title>By: duros62</title>
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		<dc:creator>duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quake, you should know by now that the easiest way to get Dr. pedro off the thread is to ask him a direct question.

&lt;i&gt;hehe&lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quake, you should know by now that the easiest way to get Dr. pedro off the thread is to ask him a direct question.</p>
<p><i>hehe</i></p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/19/gov-bob-gets-desperate-early/#comment-31000</link>
		<dc:creator>drpedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent thanks for saving me the googling......but again it goes to my point.  When do we stop &quot;making it easier&quot;?  How &quot;easy&quot; does it need to be?

I will suggest what you lefties think is an endpoint....when the democrats start winning elections.  My guess is at that point you&#039;ll all crow in one loud voice &quot;Finally a fair election!&quot;

LOL
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent thanks for saving me the googling&#8230;&#8230;but again it goes to my point.  When do we stop &#8220;making it easier&#8221;?  How &#8220;easy&#8221; does it need to be?</p>
<p>I will suggest what you lefties think is an endpoint&#8230;.when the democrats start winning elections.  My guess is at that point you&#8217;ll all crow in one loud voice &#8220;Finally a fair election!&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/19/gov-bob-gets-desperate-early/#comment-30998</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, nevermind then.

The reason we traditionally vote on Tuesdays is &lt;em&gt;to make it easier for poor people to vote!&lt;/em&gt;

In the early days of the country, some people--mostly poor, rural folks--lived a day&#039;s travel away from the nearest county seat or other polling place. Many people couldn&#039;t or wouldn&#039;t travel on a Sunday, so Monday was allowed as a travel day for voting on Tuesday.

So you see, Peedro, the practice of &lt;em&gt;making it easier for people to vote&lt;/em&gt; is a very, very old tradition in this country.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, nevermind then.</p>
<p>The reason we traditionally vote on Tuesdays is <em>to make it easier for poor people to vote!</em></p>
<p>In the early days of the country, some people&#8211;mostly poor, rural folks&#8211;lived a day&#8217;s travel away from the nearest county seat or other polling place. Many people couldn&#8217;t or wouldn&#8217;t travel on a Sunday, so Monday was allowed as a travel day for voting on Tuesday.</p>
<p>So you see, Peedro, the practice of <em>making it easier for people to vote</em> is a very, very old tradition in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/19/gov-bob-gets-desperate-early/#comment-30997</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s that, Peed&#039;?

You don&#039;t believe me? &lt;a href=&quot;http://familyinternet.about.com/library/blelectiondayfacts.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Let me help.&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s that, Peed&#8217;?</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t believe me? <a href="http://familyinternet.about.com/library/blelectiondayfacts.htm" rel="nofollow"> Let me help.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/19/gov-bob-gets-desperate-early/#comment-30996</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peedro won&#039;t say why he thinks we hold elections on Tuesdays. Wonder why?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peedro won&#8217;t say why he thinks we hold elections on Tuesdays. Wonder why?</p>
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		<title>By: duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/19/gov-bob-gets-desperate-early/#comment-30995</link>
		<dc:creator>duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter pedro: I&#039;m much too busy and important to stand in line with the little people.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shorter pedro: I&#8217;m much too busy and important to stand in line with the little people.</p>
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		<title>By: duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/19/gov-bob-gets-desperate-early/#comment-30994</link>
		<dc:creator>duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The further you bend over backwards to make things easier, the more the lefties will screech about the next level of perceived inequity.&lt;/i&gt;

What, so we should make it harder to vote? Would that be more fair? Maybe we could set up an obstacle course in front of the polling place. If Grandma can&#039;t navigate the tires or climb over the cargo netting, too bad, she can&#039;t vote.
Or maybe an alligator pit you have to cross. Or snakes!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The further you bend over backwards to make things easier, the more the lefties will screech about the next level of perceived inequity.</i></p>
<p>What, so we should make it harder to vote? Would that be more fair? Maybe we could set up an obstacle course in front of the polling place. If Grandma can&#8217;t navigate the tires or climb over the cargo netting, too bad, she can&#8217;t vote.<br />
Or maybe an alligator pit you have to cross. Or snakes!</p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/19/gov-bob-gets-desperate-early/#comment-30992</link>
		<dc:creator>drpedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have the time or interest to go down pauls laundry list of gripes, though many of them have been previously debunked.

My favorite though is the constant refrain of &quot;poor people don&#039;t have time&quot;....

Seems to me, most &quot;poor people&quot; don&#039;t have jobs, so should have plenty of time to get around to voting, if they are interested in it......

The problem with making it &quot;easier&quot; to vote really comes down to this:  The further you bend over backwards to make things easier, the more the lefties will screech about the next level of perceived inequity.  If you make it a week, why not a month?  If you allow absentee ballots for everyone, why not a hand delivered ballot and someone to pick it up....I mean what if you are disabled?  It has already begun with the various challenges so far...I mean, you can&#039;t properly punch a hole in a card?  WTF...?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have the time or interest to go down pauls laundry list of gripes, though many of them have been previously debunked.</p>
<p>My favorite though is the constant refrain of &#8220;poor people don&#8217;t have time&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Seems to me, most &#8220;poor people&#8221; don&#8217;t have jobs, so should have plenty of time to get around to voting, if they are interested in it&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>The problem with making it &#8220;easier&#8221; to vote really comes down to this:  The further you bend over backwards to make things easier, the more the lefties will screech about the next level of perceived inequity.  If you make it a week, why not a month?  If you allow absentee ballots for everyone, why not a hand delivered ballot and someone to pick it up&#8230;.I mean what if you are disabled?  It has already begun with the various challenges so far&#8230;I mean, you can&#8217;t properly punch a hole in a card?  WTF&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: duros62</title>
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		<dc:creator>duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might get some of that poverty on him. Eww!
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