it’s the idiot left-wing activists hodling vigils and rallies in front of the home of the kids before there was any evidence presented at all.

btw, getting indicted involves no presentation of defense evidence, and if you’ve been paying attention, one kid is already pretty much off the hook. Don’t know much about the Finnerty kid, but we’ll see.

This stripper has a checkered past as well. These are all things to take into consideration before you try to make this a right/left issue, or god forbid, a black/white one, which it will inevitably will be anyways. The race pimps have much to gain by pitting people against one another.

Hedley, I tend to agree with you (sans the condecending first paragraph, of course), but the fact remains that the questions you raise (”throw the alleged victim s accounti nto question and whether or not the right people were indicted if a rape did indeed take place.”) are questions for a jury.

Again, I’m not advocating a specific position, just advocating normal judicial process. I don’t think it makes much sense at this point to be adament about one side or the other.

That’s all.

You are right that there could be rape w/o DNA but -I’m gonna say it- this whole thing is starting to look fishy to me. First, no DNA. Now one of the indictees has evidently a rock solid alibi – and yet he was indicted.

I smell an ambitious prosecutor – up for re-election.

Dugger

Regardless, the defense attorneys have done more than just recite their story to the media, they have produced time-stamped photographs, witness statements and ATM records which the media has reported on. Those are facts. Not all the facts obviously, but facts nonetheless. And at the moment the facts as known throw the alleged victim’s accounti nto question and whether or not the right people were indicted if a rape did indeed take place.

Lastly, no one is saying that you can’t have a rape without DNA, but the absence of DNA is, at minimum, curious. It’s kind of like a defendant who doesn’t take the stand. Of course he doesn’t have to, but it doesn’t look too good if he doesn’t.

I wish the public would stop pretending that they have the facts of the case, when really the majority of the information out there is from the defense.

And for the last time, DNA is not a requisite for a rape conviction.

I also want to reiterate that people are convicted of rape without DNA evidence. This isn’t SCI. People need to stop pretending that they know all of the facts. It’s not even clear to the court — how are we so certain about what’s going on?

It makes no sense to have any certain belief about this case regarding the truth of the facts asserted. If you think this girl is a lying whore, you’re probably just getting played by the defense’s lawyers and the media that eats up every piece of information they get as objective. It’s not. It’s like talking to a player’s agent about how many home runs he’s going to hit next season. It’s not news. It’s not objective. They have an agenda.

Gotta be wise to this stuff.

Actually it was first a left wing issue down here. The ‘outrage’ line was a rape of a black person wasn’t big news. Then it kind of morphed into a thing about how neat it was that blacks were being completely bypassed in the investigation in favor of whites (reversal). Is there now a Tawana Brawley morph coming up?

Dugger

It is a sad situation. Who knows what really happened. But the RW blog-worlds eagerness to exonerate the (white) boys and vilify the (black) (alleged) victim really shows you why they are so hopped up about this case.

people like Barber are calling the alleged rape  fake

Maybe I don’t understand the definition of “fabricated.” Please enlighten me.

If this young woman was “repeatedly” assaulted by several Duke lacrosse players, then authorities should have found plentiful DNA evidence on her body (semen, sweat, skin, hair, etc.) left by the attackers.

The DA says that there was physical evidence of an assault. I have no doubt that this is true.

But if they can’t match DNA from the players to anything recovered from her body, then it is most likely probable that none of the players were responsible for that assault.

I’m not clear about the extent of the DNA analysis results released by attorneys for the players, but the assumption seems to be that none of the 46 white players’ DNA matched samples taken from the victim.

If that is the case, then there will be no conviction.

I agree, the women was probably assaulted, the question becomes who actually assaulted her.

It will interesting to see whether there was evidence that suggest that there SHOULD be DNA i.e. spermatazoa. If there is, and the DNA didn’t match any of the players? Get out of jail card….

I m wondering if the mouths who were shooting off last week might think twice now.

I’m wondering why you left out this link:

I think there’s something very fishy about the two women’s stories. I won’t be surprised if it turns out the rape allegation was fabricated to get back at the players for demeaning them, probably with racial epithets.

It wouldn’t be because it’s a liberal site, right?

Now? Not so much…

It is a case of the proverbial “worm turning” eh?

Pot calling the kettle black….

etc,etc…..

funny how the leftists get all up in a dander over behavior they practice on a daily basis. I wonder where they get all those soap boxes they keep preaching from…

DNA is good evidence, but it’s not the only way to convict someone. Not all cases are episodes of CSI, although many juries expect it…an increasingly troubling problem.

I figure DA must have other, corroborated independent evidence or he would not have moved forward. But, due to the lack of DNA, I bet they walk.

Dugger