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		<title>By: Dugger</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/17/the-madness-continues/#comment-30936</link>
		<dc:creator>Dugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>duros,

&#039;Dugger, could you elaborate on the  things that have gone right  part? I musta missed that. &#039;

I&#039;m not sure about the war.  Probably would not have initiated for that reason.  But I do not deny some good things have come from it.  Rather than embarrass you or waste space, you do agree that the war has done some good, right (I asssume your argumnt was misstated and that you mean from your perspective the bad outweighs the good)?

Dugger,

&quot;I am never known to quail at the fury of a gale, and I&#039;m never, never sick at sea!

What, never?&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>duros,</p>
<p>&#8216;Dugger, could you elaborate on the  things that have gone right  part? I musta missed that. &#8216;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure about the war.  Probably would not have initiated for that reason.  But I do not deny some good things have come from it.  Rather than embarrass you or waste space, you do agree that the war has done some good, right (I asssume your argumnt was misstated and that you mean from your perspective the bad outweighs the good)?</p>
<p>Dugger,</p>
<p>&#8220;I am never known to quail at the fury of a gale, and I&#8217;m never, never sick at sea!</p>
<p>What, never?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/17/the-madness-continues/#comment-30935</link>
		<dc:creator>duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dugger, could you elaborate on the &quot;things that have gone right&quot; part? I musta missed that.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dugger, could you elaborate on the &#8220;things that have gone right&#8221; part? I musta missed that.</p>
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		<title>By: duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/17/the-madness-continues/#comment-30934</link>
		<dc:creator>duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, that&#039;s right, they have the Interweb now.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, that&#8217;s right, they have the Interweb now.</p>
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		<title>By: Dugger</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/17/the-madness-continues/#comment-30933</link>
		<dc:creator>Dugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elrod,

&quot;Because Bush invaded Iraq with too few troops for the occupation, and no credible plan for stabilization, Bush is responsible for the things that have gone wrong since April 2003. &quot;

Half right.  The first part is mere speculation.  Many military, like Gen Casey, have warned against too alrge a footprint.  But Bush is the CINC and he is responsible for the armed services performance - for the things that have gone wrong - to which you alluded- and the things that have gone right.

buma,

Just a downright killer point.  Ruined my weekend. maybe.

Dugger
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elrod,</p>
<p>&#8220;Because Bush invaded Iraq with too few troops for the occupation, and no credible plan for stabilization, Bush is responsible for the things that have gone wrong since April 2003. &#8221;</p>
<p>Half right.  The first part is mere speculation.  Many military, like Gen Casey, have warned against too alrge a footprint.  But Bush is the CINC and he is responsible for the armed services performance &#8211; for the things that have gone wrong &#8211; to which you alluded- and the things that have gone right.</p>
<p>buma,</p>
<p>Just a downright killer point.  Ruined my weekend. maybe.</p>
<p>Dugger</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/17/the-madness-continues/#comment-30932</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then Bushwack insults Frank_D
Then Bushwack insults Frank_D
Then Bushwack insults Frank_D
Then Bushwack insults Frank_D
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then Bushwack insults Frank_D<br />
Then Bushwack insults Frank_D<br />
Then Bushwack insults Frank_D<br />
Then Bushwack insults Frank_D</p>
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		<title>By: Bushwacked</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/17/the-madness-continues/#comment-30931</link>
		<dc:creator>Bushwacked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 03:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neither one of you knows what  checks  are, do you? LOL

From Frank_ All I get is insults_D as usual. claiming noone else on this website knows anything but he and his wingnut pals.  Whines about not being able to have an &quot;intelligent exchange of ideas&quot; then throws another bomb

As BB says &quot;What a maroon!&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neither one of you knows what  checks  are, do you? LOL</p>
<p>From Frank_ All I get is insults_D as usual. claiming noone else on this website knows anything but he and his wingnut pals.  Whines about not being able to have an &#8220;intelligent exchange of ideas&#8221; then throws another bomb</p>
<p>As BB says &#8220;What a maroon!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bushwacked</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/17/the-madness-continues/#comment-30930</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 03:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Commenting on this blog has become a waste of pixels&amp;
I m more likely to get insulted then I am to get an honest, thoughtful response&amp; }

then Frank throws another bomb.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Commenting on this blog has become a waste of pixels&#038;<br />
I m more likely to get insulted then I am to get an honest, thoughtful response&#038; }</p>
<p>then Frank throws another bomb.</p>
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		<title>By: buma</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/17/the-madness-continues/#comment-30929</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that dugger blames Bushhaters rather than Bush himself, for whatever bad news comes out of Iraq?  Did Bushhaters start this thing? Did they not plan for what evolved? Did they spread falsehoods to &#039;justify&#039; the invasion?


dugger, still haven&#039;t gotten around to documenting those lies yet.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that dugger blames Bushhaters rather than Bush himself, for whatever bad news comes out of Iraq?  Did Bushhaters start this thing? Did they not plan for what evolved? Did they spread falsehoods to &#8216;justify&#8217; the invasion?</p>
<p>dugger, still haven&#8217;t gotten around to documenting those lies yet.</p>
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		<title>By: elrod</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dugger,
Because Bush invaded Iraq with too few troops for the occupation, and no credible plan for stabilization, Bush is responsible for the things that have gone wrong since April 2003.  Had Iraq transformed itself into a peaceful, stable, liberal democracy then Bush would get the credit. In fact, I give Bush credit for handling Afghanistan as well as he has. There are serious flaws in Afghanistan, of course, but the situation is much better than Iraq.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dugger,<br />
Because Bush invaded Iraq with too few troops for the occupation, and no credible plan for stabilization, Bush is responsible for the things that have gone wrong since April 2003.  Had Iraq transformed itself into a peaceful, stable, liberal democracy then Bush would get the credit. In fact, I give Bush credit for handling Afghanistan as well as he has. There are serious flaws in Afghanistan, of course, but the situation is much better than Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/17/the-madness-continues/#comment-30927</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neither one of you knows what &quot;checks&quot; are, do you? LOL
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neither one of you knows what &#8220;checks&#8221; are, do you? LOL</p>
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		<title>By: midderpidge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/17/the-madness-continues/#comment-30926</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 05:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush may not write legislation but he sure likes to make additions with his signing declarations, FrankD.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush may not write legislation but he sure likes to make additions with his signing declarations, FrankD.</p>
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		<title>By: Bushwacked</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/17/the-madness-continues/#comment-30925</link>
		<dc:creator>Bushwacked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 03:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> The President cannot write legislation, or present it for a vote; neither can he make decisions regarding constitutionality
- He hasn&#039;t done so great making executive decisions either and he obviously ignores the Constitution, when it comes to who makes and interprets laws.

 I ll bet you have no idea what the  checks  refer to, and I ll bet not two of the posters on this blog do, either.

-  There are few &quot;checks  with regard to the abuses of the current Republican Administration and the Republican Congress.
-  Bush ignores the laws and the Republican Congress acquiesces.  For example, they have made little or no real attempt to stop his total disregard of the laws governing wiretapping and surveillance of American citizens.  In fact there are senators, such as Jeff Sessions and John Cornyn who have acted like  attorneys for the defense  when it came to hearings on this issue.
-  Bush wants more money for the war in Iraq and the Republican Congress acquiesces.  In fact, the only  checks  they know about are the ones they keep writing to sustain a bloated military budget and a war that we shouldn t have started in the first place.

Checks and balances? They are almost non-existent.
Oversight? Forget about it!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> The President cannot write legislation, or present it for a vote; neither can he make decisions regarding constitutionality<br />
- He hasn&#8217;t done so great making executive decisions either and he obviously ignores the Constitution, when it comes to who makes and interprets laws.</p>
<p> I ll bet you have no idea what the  checks  refer to, and I ll bet not two of the posters on this blog do, either.</p>
<p>-  There are few &#8220;checks  with regard to the abuses of the current Republican Administration and the Republican Congress.<br />
-  Bush ignores the laws and the Republican Congress acquiesces.  For example, they have made little or no real attempt to stop his total disregard of the laws governing wiretapping and surveillance of American citizens.  In fact there are senators, such as Jeff Sessions and John Cornyn who have acted like  attorneys for the defense  when it came to hearings on this issue.<br />
-  Bush wants more money for the war in Iraq and the Republican Congress acquiesces.  In fact, the only  checks  they know about are the ones they keep writing to sustain a bloated military budget and a war that we shouldn t have started in the first place.</p>
<p>Checks and balances? They are almost non-existent.<br />
Oversight? Forget about it!</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/17/the-madness-continues/#comment-30924</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 02:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>q - wolf: You have, and have always had, the power to lie or tell the truth.
Saying, &quot;I told you so,&quot; involves two important things: 1) Recommending against a course of action, for good reason, not just because that action was chosen by someone you despise; and 2) Some sort of evidence that the action has not succeeded, or has no good outcomes.
Your &quot;I told you so&#039;s&quot; meet neither of the prerequisites.
Also, the conservatives do not control all three branches of government (with or without flaming capital letters). Congress has a bare majority of Republicans, about a half dozen or more (in the Senate alone) who are not conservative. There are now 4 possible strict constructionists on the Supreme Court, out of 9. The President cannot write legislation, or present it for a vote; neither can he make decisions regarding constitutionality.
It&#039;s the &quot;balance&quot; in &quot;checks and balances.&quot;
I&#039;ll bet you have no idea what the &quot;checks&quot; refer to, and I&#039;ll bet not two of the posters on this blog do, either.
Run to The World Book Encyclopedia of the Internet WikiPedia, run!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>q &#8211; wolf: You have, and have always had, the power to lie or tell the truth.<br />
Saying, &#8220;I told you so,&#8221; involves two important things: 1) Recommending against a course of action, for good reason, not just because that action was chosen by someone you despise; and 2) Some sort of evidence that the action has not succeeded, or has no good outcomes.<br />
Your &#8220;I told you so&#8217;s&#8221; meet neither of the prerequisites.<br />
Also, the conservatives do not control all three branches of government (with or without flaming capital letters). Congress has a bare majority of Republicans, about a half dozen or more (in the Senate alone) who are not conservative. There are now 4 possible strict constructionists on the Supreme Court, out of 9. The President cannot write legislation, or present it for a vote; neither can he make decisions regarding constitutionality.<br />
It&#8217;s the &#8220;balance&#8221; in &#8220;checks and balances.&#8221;<br />
I&#8217;ll bet you have no idea what the &#8220;checks&#8221; refer to, and I&#8217;ll bet not two of the posters on this blog do, either.<br />
Run to The World Book Encyclopedia of the Internet WikiPedia, run!</p>
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		<title>By: Dugger</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/17/the-madness-continues/#comment-30923</link>
		<dc:creator>Dugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 01:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What divination re  my good old buddy hatcheck (versus hating left)?

Dugger
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What divination re  my good old buddy hatcheck (versus hating left)?</p>
<p>Dugger</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/17/the-madness-continues/#comment-30922</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 23:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Your going-on about treason is just stuff you are making up.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I know. You told me to draw my own conclusions and I did.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Your going-on about treason is just stuff you are making up.
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<p>I know. You told me to draw my own conclusions and I did.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/17/the-madness-continues/#comment-30921</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 23:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the divination of (always bad) motive part is where the hate comes in. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

You find that divination exactly where in Mr. Factcheck&#039;s observations?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the divination of (always bad) motive part is where the hate comes in. </p></blockquote>
<p>You find that divination exactly where in Mr. Factcheck&#8217;s observations?</p>
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		<title>By: Dugger</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/17/the-madness-continues/#comment-30920</link>
		<dc:creator>Dugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 22:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quaker,

The disagreeing part is fine, the divination of (always bad) motive part is where the hate comes in. Your going-on about treason is just stuff you are making up.

Quick,

You obviously think we/I overreact, but this is admittedly a partisan web site.  Thats not hidden.  Go back and compare how many times an attack in Iraq is portrayed as bad moral thing or a despicable act period - versus evidence of the venality or madness of Bush and neocons.  Then you tell me.  Tragedy after tragdedy is not treated as a tragedy per se, but a bad thing for and by the Bushies.

Dugger

Dugger
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quaker,</p>
<p>The disagreeing part is fine, the divination of (always bad) motive part is where the hate comes in. Your going-on about treason is just stuff you are making up.</p>
<p>Quick,</p>
<p>You obviously think we/I overreact, but this is admittedly a partisan web site.  Thats not hidden.  Go back and compare how many times an attack in Iraq is portrayed as bad moral thing or a despicable act period &#8211; versus evidence of the venality or madness of Bush and neocons.  Then you tell me.  Tragedy after tragdedy is not treated as a tragedy per se, but a bad thing for and by the Bushies.</p>
<p>Dugger</p>
<p>Dugger</p>
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		<title>By: duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/17/the-madness-continues/#comment-30919</link>
		<dc:creator>duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 22:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The true definition of a moonbat.
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/17/the-madness-continues/#comment-30918</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And since Bush-hate is the center of their universe, - well you draw your own conclsuions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

OK, I will.

However, I&#039;m having trouble choosing between two conclusions. I think you&#039;re implying that disagreeing with (or &quot;hating&quot;) Bush &lt;em&gt;leads to&lt;/em&gt; treasonous thinking or that disagreeing with Bush is &lt;em&gt;in itself&lt;/em&gt; treason.

You do recognize that factcheck is offering up a parody of the fake assurances we&#039;ve been given in the past about the ongoing violence in Iraq, right?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And since Bush-hate is the center of their universe, &#8211; well you draw your own conclsuions.</p></blockquote>
<p>OK, I will.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;m having trouble choosing between two conclusions. I think you&#8217;re implying that disagreeing with (or &#8220;hating&#8221;) Bush <em>leads to</em> treasonous thinking or that disagreeing with Bush is <em>in itself</em> treason.</p>
<p>You do recognize that factcheck is offering up a parody of the fake assurances we&#8217;ve been given in the past about the ongoing violence in Iraq, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Dugger</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/17/the-madness-continues/#comment-30917</link>
		<dc:creator>Dugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 16:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Every suicide bomber leaves us closer to victory. &quot;

Or evidently, every suicide bombing is a domestic political victory for compassionate progressive Bush haters.  And since Bush-hate is the center of their universe,  - well you draw your own conclsuions.

Dugger
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Every suicide bomber leaves us closer to victory. &#8221;</p>
<p>Or evidently, every suicide bombing is a domestic political victory for compassionate progressive Bush haters.  And since Bush-hate is the center of their universe,  &#8211; well you draw your own conclsuions.</p>
<p>Dugger</p>
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