Or….something.

Still waiting, Dr.

There are the facts and then there is what Bush says the facts are. Time and again these have been two totally separate and distinct things. However you want to explain away the difference — he’s lying, he’s incompetent, he speaks before all the facts are in, a combination of all three — this president has a track record of being wrong himself, relying on wrong information and depending on people for advice who are also wrong. This is what conservatives call success.

pedro, the whole story is about how the truth about the trailers WAS AVAILABLE days before Bush made an emphatically unqualified statement that was totally wrong.

Pedro
Lets say your boss finds out you’ve cheated on your wife. He happens to ask you about it in front of her. What is your first reaction? Do you say, “Yes, I cannot tell a lie, I banged that skank from Hooters”, or do you deny it automatically? Are you lying? Are you lying now or were you lying then?

Say your wet dream came true and Hussein did have a stockpile of bio-weapons, what then? Hussein would have been driven to sell them to terrorist groups and we couldn’t have stopped him because the one fact is: we had no clue where they were. Boom New York. Boom Washington. Boom USA.

 We have found the weapons of mass destruction. — GW Bush, 29 May 2003, upon the discovery ot two truck trailers, already reported by US intelligence to be not true.

If I say those exact same words I would be lying. Why is this not a lie in duggerland? Because you haven’t got around to ‘documenting’ it.

It isn’t just a bush “lie” if there was any lying involved…but nice try with the historical re-write

From the whole “we had no idea this was coming” 9-11 fiasco, to “there are WMDs in them thar hills” Iraq fiasco, to the “who could have known the levees would break” fiasco – the recurrent theme of blaming anyone and everyone else is beyond tired – and to expect the American people to swallow it is insulting.

And yes, in this case shit does roll uphill – this man is the “face” of America, the leader of the executive branch, and we’re covered in mud because of his regime.

Why in the world would anyone take this man’s “intelligence” as valid now when it has been so bad throughout his term? Because THIS time he’s right? How do you know anymore? Please don’t go the “because lord and master says so” routine – this isn’t the United States of Mindless Sheep.

Is he “The Little POTUS That Cried Wolf” or just a “Baaad Boy”? (Sorry I just couldn’t help myself there – the sheep thing and all – too easy – like declaring war or lying to an entire nation.)

An honorable man would not represent conflicting statements as being unconflicted. And if you are actually interested in defending Bush here, you should start by responding to the specific claims of misrepresentation that are made above by Frame, Jade, Java joe, myself, and others.

Either the president made a public statement about WMD without having all the facts at his disposal or he had all the facts and deliberately left out the ones that proved too  inconvenient

Actually it should be all AVAILABLE facts. You see, he can only know what is available at that time. And he can’t be expected to sort out every conflicting statement. It also it really very good leadership to stand up and say “Well, Rodney thinks there WMD’s, but Clifton isn’t sure. Of course Gordon is CONVINCED they are, but Chauncey, well, he doesn’t believe it”

Of course you leftist can always come back 3 years later after parsing every last detail that was gleaned over the years and then say “The president lied!”

You guys are maroons….