Yet another voice saying what sane people fear, Bush is going to get us all killed.

Nah, that pretty much works for me, how ’bout you guys?

Ahmenijihad or whatever his name is is pretty much everything the moonbats accuse Bush of being — the religious fanatic with a messiah/apocalypse fantasy. But to admit that would force the moonbats to admit they might’ve overhyped their case against Bush, and that’s something they just can’t do.

Besides, they have their single talking point — “Bush is bad, and everything he is for is bad, and everything bad is his fault.” To even attempt to look at issues on one’s own without finding a way to use it to make Bush bad is heresy.

J.

First of all, I am stunned that you consider Miller unqualified because he is a Professor of economics. Are you either a Professor of economics or of International Politics?
Well, let’s go on,assuming that you don’t have to be a zoologist to see the stripes on a zebra.

How does having the ability to “overrun the Israelis with sticks and iron skillets” (a feat you’re sure can be accomplished after years of study of Military History in general, and the Iranian military in particular? — and you questioned his credentials) obviate the desire for nuclear weaponry? Surely, while you were at the War College, you learned of the idea of coming to a battle “the fustest with the mostest”? One doesn’t go to a war with the minimum amount of equipment.

And the Iranians know, even if you don’t, that the IDF (Israeli Defense Force), are people with whom you do not want to mess.

Finally, the term “Mad Mullahs” is an alliterative understatement.
I would have gone with the more picaresque, “Nervous as a long tailed cat in a roomful of rocking chairs,” or “Crazy as junebugs.”

 Sanctions? What are you going to sanction? Sanction like Iraq? Iran controls a huge chunk of oil and is capabale of sending the worlds economy into a tailspin.

Of course, if we drop bombs on them, they’ll respond by “opening the spigots” right?

The Soviet border was no less porous than the Iraqi border, and, in turn, the Iranian. They are a nation of Persian Shiites surrounded by people of different ethnicities and religions. Containment doesn’t mean border control anyway, you drooling dolt. Google it.

“Sanctions? What are you going to sanction? Sanction like Iraq? Iran controls a huge chunk of oil and is capabale of sending the worlds economy into a tailspin.”

The communist world was like a third of the earth’s population. Sanctions worked against them too. Provide evidence that santions against Iran would wreck the world’s economy in a way that sanctions against Iraq did not.

“Nuclear Deterrent: Well, fundy Islamist don t.” Communists believed the triumph of their ideology was inevitable. They were no less rational in this regard. And yet, it turns out that government leaders, regardless of ideology, all understand power. Moron.

Mr. Miller is an assistant professor of Economics. I’m not sure why that gives him any standing in the realm of international politics.

At any rate, his entire article relies on the premise that:

the mad mullahs who run Iran might be willing to lose 70 percent of their population in return for killing millions of Israeli Jews

If the “mad mullahs”–a ridiculous and purposefully inflammatory term if there ever was one–are willing to sacrifice 70 percent of their population to kill an indeterminite number of Israelis, why do they need nuclear weapons to do it? Couldn’t they send them all over in a human wave, brandishing sticks and cast iron skillets and do the job just as well?

Miller is clumsily papering over the fatal flaw in his argument: that Iran wants a nuclear weapon to do what they already hold the capability to do.

And what do you call this?

To be fair, Ike would probably like your indifference to civil rights, though.

Does being liberal mean having short – or long – term memory?

Has the US? It’s the US that has threatened to make war on Iran, not the other way around. Iran has only threatened to retailiate against the US.

JT, what will you be doing to support the war effort, if not “sitting on your ass”? Warblogging?
BTW, it’s called “diplomacy”, not “sitting on your ass”.

2) The logical outcome of doing nothing is Iran nukes Israel, most likely irradiating a bunch of Israel’s neighbors. Israel returns the favor, dumping a whole bunch of fallout all around the Persian Gulf. The only Americans directly affected by this will be those in Israel (but they’re all pawns of the Zionists and/or Jesus Freaks) and our military (who are the willing slaves of Halliburton, the warmongers, and the military-industrial complex), so it’s no big deal. Right?

I guess when you look at it in that light, sitting on your ass and doing nothing while talking big sounds real good. But hey, that seems to sum up most Democratic policies pretty well.

J.

The logical outcome of doing nothing is Iran nukes Israel, most likely irradiating a bunch of Israel s neighbors. Israel returns the favor, dumping a whole bunch of fallout all around the Persian Gulf.

But, of course, the Iranian leadership is so craaaaaazy, they can’t figure this out. Or they don’t care if their country is destroyed along with all the people in it.

Right, Jay Tea?

“Containment, sanctions, nuclear deterrent, and diplomacy. It was good enough to win the Cold War, and it s good enough today, you mewling baby. Ike would be ashamed of you.”

How do you contain them? They have a porous border on all sides, and fellow fundamentalists all over.
Sanctions? What are you going to sanction? Sanction like Iraq? Iran controls a huge chunk of oil and is capabale of sending the worlds economy into a tailspin.
Nuclear Deterrent? HA! Remember the old Police song about the “russians love their children too”? Well, fundy Islamist don’t. Haven’t you seen all the kids on arab tv offering themselves up for suicide bombing missions? How do you “deter” someone who believes that death takes you straight to heaven and 72 virgins? The russians were theoretically atheists, they needed to enjoy the one life they had!

Crap tom, I sure as hell hope the rest of the leftists aren’t as simple minded as you are.

Maybe we could just put daisies in their rifle barrels! Come on guys!

The only people around here that are indifferent to civil rights are you elitist liberals. You’re indifferent to everyone’s civil rights, except your own right to be supercillious, condescending, patronizing self – righteous pricks.

And I ain’t even winking…

Israel, too, has used it’s considerable military might to expand its borders and suppress Palestinian dissent. Sharon was known to have participated in and/or orchestrated multiple military attacks on civilians which are widely considered war crimes (the October 1953 “Unit 101″ massacre of 66 civilians in Jordanian West Bank village of Qibya, the September 1982 massacre of Palestinian civilians in the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps in Lebanon, and the April 2002 Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) mass killings in the Jenin refugee camp in the West Bank, among others).

There’s plenty of blood and shame to go around. Given our recent forays into illegal invasions, torture, and other questionable tactics (anybody want to discuss the use of white phosphorous on Iraqi civilians, or the health problems arising from the use of depleted uranium ammunition), I would say we don’t exactly hold the high ground in the morality debate. At the very least, our perch has been lowered considerably.

This time, it’s slightly different. No I’m so afraid of a nuclear bomb in the hands of Iran, that I’m what? Willing to negotiate? No — that’s what you want to do.
Lessee: I’m so afraid of nuclear weapons, I’d rather try containment than war — wait, no, that’s you guys again!
Wait, I’ve got it — I’m so afraid of nukes in the hands of Iranians, that I don’t want a war. We should try sanctions, instead (remember how well that worked with Iraq?) — but, that’s you’re idea, too!
Of course, we could always try diplom — never mind. That’s you’re idea, too!
So, let me see if I have this straight — you’re willing to kiss their asses in Macy’s window, but it’s the conservatives that are afraid, right?

Hehe