Do the people who say that conservatives hate Hispanics, believe that conservatives hate Hispanics, or is throwing down that gauntlet a “tactic”?

The first time I see a rich white elitist muckety-muck Democrat volunteer to live 30 days by himself within the Spanish-speaking immigrant Mexican community in any large US city  and I m talking about total immersion  then I ll believe that the Democrats actually care about the welfare of illegals.

Rubbish.

Would one say something like, “The first time I see a rich, healthy doctor infect himself with tuberculosis, then I’ll believe that doctors actually care about the sick.”

Or how about this: “The first time I see a Baptist minister offer his soul to Satan, I’ll believe that Baptists actually care about saving people from sin.”

Maybe this: “The first time I see a vice-president shotgun a man in the face, I’ll believe he actually cares about gun safety.” Uh…check that…

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=126025429&size=o

Remember to apply for citizenship and register to vote (Democrat, of course) all at the same time!

Of course, in fairness I have to say I firmly believe that most Republicans who are supporting the Amnesty type bills are doing so in order to 1) also court latino voters or 2) keep their business supporters stocked up with an ever growing pool of low-wage workers.

OW, did you actually read the entire post? If so, you must have missed his experience at the Metro station that day:

I fought my way through the crowd until I saw them. Twenty young men, maybe twenty-five, all wearing the requisite jeans and white shirts, standing in a tight row in front of the escalators that led down into the station. They were holding yellow cardboard signs that read  Mexicanos Sin Fronteras. And they weren t letting anybody through.

One of them made eye contacted with me. He grinned, yelled something. I stared back blankly. He laughed.  You can t leave, buddy, he yelled over the crowd.  Go back.

Gee, do you think that might have in any way affected his perception of the rally? After all, he did write his post after having that experience.

I do like the Character quote, I find that we are living in a country who is being led by people of dubious character and that we should take action to remedy this.

I “feel”, “a broken process, not broken people”

what self-satisfied twaddle….

Who is feeding all these people that arrive when you throw open the doors? Who cares for them when they show up at your er with no money, no insurance?

You want to sponsor them with your hard earned dollars, fine. Don’t saddle the rest of us with the burden of unlimited immigration.

You want more people, fine, change the law, let more in legally. In the meantime, stop the ILLEGAL ones, cause it makes the process a mockery for those who do it right.

It is what is expected to be here in America legally…
We ask no more and certainly no less…

And Zappa, ‘Citizen of the World’, ‘Budhist[sic], Catholic, Athiest[sic]‘ are all strawmen to this argument… Certainly ‘no stinking matches’ such as these should be allowed anywhere near this discussion…

The question about dual-citizenship would matter nothing to me until or unless there were hostilities between America and this hyphenated-citizen from that hostile nation… Then this “-citizen” might be asked to sign and swear to a loyalty oath… Otherwise, live and let live…

Here is another TR quote to mull over:
“Character, in the long run, is the decisive factor in the life of an individual and of nations alike.”

Now if this person has the ‘character’ to start their life here illegally…
Well, what does that say about their character…?
Or even the nation that allows such ‘character’ within their country…?

If you were living in the 1960’s, you’d probably be listening to the Monkees because the Beatles, (by most standards a more successful band, or more elite in their profession) would be in your opinion elitist.

Heck, even the Monkees would be too counter culture for you. You’re probably a Pat Boone fan.

Hillary? Teddy? John Kerry? John Edwards? Howard Dean? Jay Rockefeller? Al Gore? C’mon guys, show us the love.

http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=041106F

You might actually get the idea that there are people out there who are opposed to uncontrolled immigration that don’t “hate Hispanics” (or fear them, frameone), but somehow it serves some purpose of Oliver’s (and, of course, many of the commenters on this thread)

Here’s a thought experiment for those of you that fall into that category:

If it were true that most opponents of uncontrolled immigration, and open borders were not “haters of Hispanics”, how would that affect you?
More importantly, what effect would that have on your worldview?
A personal question to frameone: Would that frighten you?

Kinda reminds me of why so many of you are so desperate to squash Intelligent Design…

“Optimism is a good characteristic, but if carried to an excess, it becomes foolishness. We are prone to speak of the resources of this country as inexhaustible; this is not so.”
Seventh Annual Message to Congress, December 3, 1907

“Defenders of the short-sighted men who in their greed and selfishness will, if permitted, rob our country of half its charm by their reckless extermination of all useful and beautiful wild things sometimes seek to champion them by saying the ‘the game belongs to the people.’ So it does; and not merely to the people now alive, but to the unborn people. The ‘greatest good for the greatest number’ applies to the number within the womb of time, compared to which those now alive form but an insignificant fraction. Our duty to the whole, including the unborn generations, bids us restrain an unprincipled present-day minority from wasting the heritage of these unborn generations. The movement for the conservation of wild life and the larger movement for the conservation of all our natural resources are essentially democratic in spirit, purpose, and method.”
A Book-Lover’s Holidays in the Open, 1916

I hardly think that this is ALL that you expect…