Comments on: The Hollow Rhetoric Of The Patriotically Correct http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/06/the-hollow-rhetoric-of-the-patriotically-correct/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:30:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Frank_D http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/06/the-hollow-rhetoric-of-the-patriotically-correct/#comment-29229 Frank_D Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:04:08 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1751#comment-29229 That means, <b>if you can wear jeans</b>, you can wear camos. I don t know about Westminster, CO, but in LA, bandanas are gangwear. <b>If the school has no rule against them</b>, then they shouldn t be banned, either. Your "little statement" that my statement was 'Patently false', turns out to be 'patently false'. That means, if you can wear jeans, you can wear camos.

I don t know about Westminster, CO, but in LA, bandanas are gangwear.

If the school has no rule against them, then they shouldn t be banned, either.

Your “little statement” that my statement was ‘Patently false’, turns out to be ‘patently false’.

]]> By: Marty http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/06/the-hollow-rhetoric-of-the-patriotically-correct/#comment-29228 Marty Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:04:32 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1751#comment-29228 School uniforms too, Oliver? Damn. We agree again. (Obviously not for the political reasons you bring to the table, but maybe there's more to your opinion than that...) School uniforms too, Oliver? Damn. We agree again. (Obviously not for the political reasons you bring to the table, but maybe there’s more to your opinion than that…)

]]> By: Frank_D http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/06/the-hollow-rhetoric-of-the-patriotically-correct/#comment-29227 Frank_D Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:04:20 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1751#comment-29227 If you think uniforms improve education, you know nothing of Catholic school... If you think uniforms improve education, you know nothing of Catholic school…

]]> By: Lisa and Lucy http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/06/the-hollow-rhetoric-of-the-patriotically-correct/#comment-29226 Lisa and Lucy Fri, 07 Apr 2006 05:04:07 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1751#comment-29226 We've always been fans of the school uniform idea. This is just another example of why. Honestly, this as well as a whole host of problems would be made null by them, and maybe we could get back to something truly important - like giving the kids the truly great education they deserve. We’ve always been fans of the school uniform idea. This is just another example of why. Honestly, this as well as a whole host of problems would be made null by them, and maybe we could get back to something truly important – like giving the kids the truly great education they deserve.

]]> By: stick http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/06/the-hollow-rhetoric-of-the-patriotically-correct/#comment-29225 stick Thu, 06 Apr 2006 18:04:26 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1751#comment-29225 Quaker- You're right, I was off-topic. Should'na went there, but I do love to Clinton bait and his moniker is "factcheck". And I demonstrated that he was right! Quaker-
You’re right, I was off-topic. Should’na went there, but I do love to Clinton bait and his moniker is “factcheck”. And I demonstrated that he was right!

]]> By: rainlion http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/06/the-hollow-rhetoric-of-the-patriotically-correct/#comment-29224 rainlion Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:04:30 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1751#comment-29224 "In public school, you can wear whatever you want, if it s modest and presentable" Sorry Frank, but just about every school has a code of dress and policies - so your little prepostion is patently false. If the school chooses to restrict the wearing of camo and/or bandanas to cut down on tensions between students - they're perfectly within their rights and certainly reasonable to do so. I haven't always been a fan of uniforms, but dang - they sure to nip alot of issues like this in the bud. “In public school, you can wear whatever you want, if it s modest and presentable”

Sorry Frank, but just about every school has a code of dress and policies – so your little prepostion is patently false.

If the school chooses to restrict the wearing of camo and/or bandanas to cut down on tensions between students – they’re perfectly within their rights and certainly reasonable to do so.

I haven’t always been a fan of uniforms, but dang – they sure to nip alot of issues like this in the bud.

]]> By: Frank_D http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/06/the-hollow-rhetoric-of-the-patriotically-correct/#comment-29223 Frank_D Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:04:24 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1751#comment-29223 I dare you to investigate the party registration of Principal/ This has political correctness (read: liberal opinions only) written all over it. I dare you to investigate the party registration of Principal/

This has political correctness (read: liberal opinions only) written all over it.

]]> By: Frank_D http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/06/the-hollow-rhetoric-of-the-patriotically-correct/#comment-29222 Frank_D Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:04:20 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1751#comment-29222 This is a no - brainer (meaning, perfect for the liberal mind). In public school, you can wear <i>whatever you want</i>, if it's modest and presentable. That means, if you can wear jeans, you can wear camos. I don't know about Westminster, CO, but in LA, bandanas are gangwear. If the school has no rule against them, then they shouldn't be banned, either. Whatever happened to freedom? Sheesh. This is a no – brainer (meaning, perfect for the liberal mind).

In public school, you can wear whatever you want, if it’s modest and presentable.

That means, if you can wear jeans, you can wear camos.

I don’t know about Westminster, CO, but in LA, bandanas are gangwear.

If the school has no rule against them, then they shouldn’t be banned, either.

Whatever happened to freedom?

Sheesh.

]]> By: duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/06/the-hollow-rhetoric-of-the-patriotically-correct/#comment-29221 duros62 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:04:15 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1751#comment-29221 Daughter:  I want to show that I am an American A fashion victim. Kids do not enjoy the same levels of first amendment rights as those of voting (or enlistment) age. Seeing that this is in Colorado (Columbine), they might be sensitive to the use of what could be seen as para-military apparel. Is it more in the perception of the adults? Of course it is. But if that is the rule that the school board, superintendent, principal (and I don't think the principal's political status comes inot play) and vice-principal come up with, then that's the rule. I guess this girl is going right down to the recruitment office as soon as she graduates, right? Daughter:  I want to show that I am an American
A fashion victim.
Kids do not enjoy the same levels of first amendment rights as those of voting (or enlistment) age. Seeing that this is in Colorado (Columbine), they might be sensitive to the use of what could be seen as para-military apparel. Is it more in the perception of the adults? Of course it is. But if that is the rule that the school board, superintendent, principal (and I don’t think the principal’s political status comes inot play) and vice-principal come up with, then that’s the rule.
I guess this girl is going right down to the recruitment office as soon as she graduates, right?

]]> By: Quaker in a Basement http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/06/the-hollow-rhetoric-of-the-patriotically-correct/#comment-29220 Quaker in a Basement Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:04:11 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1751#comment-29220 <blockquote>No perjury conviction for Clinton, factcheck, but he did have to pay a $90,000 fine for contempt</blockquote> Congratulations, stick. Now run along and explain that to peedro and stop posting off-topic, OK? This morning on the way to work, I heard a couple of the local right-wing radio shouters talking about getting up a legal defense fund to take this to court. They're going to exploit this situation in a big, big way. Just watch.

No perjury conviction for Clinton, factcheck, but he did have to pay a $90,000 fine for contempt

Congratulations, stick.

Now run along and explain that to peedro and stop posting off-topic, OK?

This morning on the way to work, I heard a couple of the local right-wing radio shouters talking about getting up a legal defense fund to take this to court.

They’re going to exploit this situation in a big, big way. Just watch.

]]> By: JK http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/06/the-hollow-rhetoric-of-the-patriotically-correct/#comment-29219 JK Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:04:10 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1751#comment-29219 Kids should be allowed to wear whatever the hell they want to school, as long as it doesn't disrupt the classroom environment. Of course, that determination is always going to be made by someone who may or may not have a political agenda. If you don't let kids express themselves as individuals, then you'll end up with a bunch of sheep, all looking, acting, and thinking the same way. Uh oh...wait a minute, isn't that the Republican Party? JK Kids should be allowed to wear whatever the hell they want to school, as long as it doesn’t disrupt the classroom environment. Of course, that determination is always going to be made by someone who may or may not have a political agenda.

If you don’t let kids express themselves as individuals, then you’ll end up with a bunch of sheep, all looking, acting, and thinking the same way.

Uh oh…wait a minute, isn’t that the Republican Party?

JK

]]> By: rainlion http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/06/the-hollow-rhetoric-of-the-patriotically-correct/#comment-29218 rainlion Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:04:01 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1751#comment-29218 "and I want to show that I'm an american" she said? My god I weep for the future of the nation - can someone please educate these kids?! “and I want to show that I’m an american” she said?

My god I weep for the future of the nation – can someone please educate these kids?!

]]> By: stwendeler http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/06/the-hollow-rhetoric-of-the-patriotically-correct/#comment-29217 stwendeler Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:04:42 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1751#comment-29217 I saw the pair on TV (FNC) as well. Tony Snow didn't seem to be too sympathetic. If you had more of the clip, you'd see that Tony comes back to question what the hell they're thinking. Frankly, I don't think her wearing of camo in any way "supports the troops" or is a patriotic display. Slobbily wearing camo's isn't a great patriotic display IMO. School uniforms sounds like a plan to me, Oliver. I saw the pair on TV (FNC) as well. Tony Snow didn’t seem to be too sympathetic. If you had more of the clip, you’d see that Tony comes back to question what the hell they’re thinking.

Frankly, I don’t think her wearing of camo in any way “supports the troops” or is a patriotic display. Slobbily wearing camo’s isn’t a great patriotic display IMO.

School uniforms sounds like a plan to me, Oliver.

]]> By: cypher http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/06/the-hollow-rhetoric-of-the-patriotically-correct/#comment-29216 cypher Thu, 06 Apr 2006 15:04:53 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1751#comment-29216 Dad: "I'm also a military, uh, or son of a marine, I am wearing a shirt I am wearing it in his honor." Lovitz: LIAR! Daughter: "I want to show that I am an American" Because otherwise we never would have known. Dad: “I’m also a military, uh, or son of a marine, I am wearing a shirt I am wearing it in his honor.”

Lovitz: LIAR!

Daughter: “I want to show that I am an American”

Because otherwise we never would have known.

]]> By: stick http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/06/the-hollow-rhetoric-of-the-patriotically-correct/#comment-29215 stick Thu, 06 Apr 2006 15:04:12 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1751#comment-29215 No perjury conviction for Clinton, factcheck, but he did have to pay a $90,000 fine for contempt because, in Judge Susan Webber Wright's words, "Simply put, the president's deposition testimony regarding whether he had ever been alone with Ms. (Monica) Lewinsky was intentionally false and his statements regarding whether he had ever engaged in sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky likewise were intentionally false," This is your cue to start your "When Clinton lied no one died!" chant. No perjury conviction for Clinton, factcheck, but he did have to pay a $90,000 fine for contempt because, in Judge Susan Webber Wright’s words, “Simply put, the president’s deposition testimony regarding whether he had ever been alone with Ms. (Monica) Lewinsky was intentionally false and his statements regarding whether he had ever engaged in sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky likewise were intentionally false,”

This is your cue to start your “When Clinton lied no one died!” chant.

]]> By: factcheck http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/06/the-hollow-rhetoric-of-the-patriotically-correct/#comment-29214 factcheck Thu, 06 Apr 2006 15:04:03 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1751#comment-29214 Expect to hear this recycled year after year, like a nugget that just won't flush, and has to be debunked constantly, like "Al Gore said he invented the Internet" and "Bill Clinton was convicted of perjury". The thing is, Faux News type viewers will never verify the facts, and will keep using this as evidence of the "evul libs". Expect to hear this recycled year after year, like a nugget that just won’t flush, and has to be debunked constantly, like “Al Gore said he invented the Internet” and “Bill Clinton was convicted of perjury”.

The thing is, Faux News type viewers will never verify the facts, and will keep using this as evidence of the “evul libs”.

]]> By: mjb http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/04/06/the-hollow-rhetoric-of-the-patriotically-correct/#comment-29213 mjb Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:04:20 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1751#comment-29213 Why would a conservative bobblehead ever tell the whole story? I can't think of one example. Why would a conservative bobblehead ever tell the whole story? I can’t think of one example.

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