Man- you love them talking points. But I get it Oliver. It’s your job to write talking points. You spend your entire life on them- in your job, in your hobby, in your little bubble of people and friends you surround yourself with.

You realize that politically, the Democrats strongest tactic over the last 30 years has been the labeling all Republican as racist. Keep minorities in fear of Republicans because all they want to do is put you in the “back of the bus.” And yet that tactic has slipped in stature.

And every little gain by Republicans with minorities is a threat to you politically. But it amuses me to see you jump on the code words and phrases- “back of the bus” and “Uncle Tom.”

And yes- in that particular quote of yours from the wayback machine substituting the word “party” for “race” as you used it is on point. Even as you use a post to try an paint all Conservatives/Republicans as racist in your political talking points, when not so long ago you said yourself that you don’t think the President is a racist.

Give it some time- you’ll find a reason to call him one. Some policy you can exploit for a political talking point. You’re just as bad as the protesters. You’re just like the politicians and “Civil Rights Leaders” that you don’t necessarily allign yourself with (Jackson, Sharpton, Dyson). You’ll make claims of racism whenever it fits your political agenda.

By the way- I’ll have to sort through your posts, but I haven’t heard much about Cynthia McKinney from you. But knowing you, I’m sure you see her as a fool and a distraction that you shouldn’t give too much attention to.

On point 2) Was Hoover the “Father of Modern Conservatism, I would say that, whether he as or he was not, it was by no means Ronald Reagan. Sen Robert Taft was considered “too conservative” for the Presidential nomination of 1952, well before was Reagan was anything like an influential political representative.

Finally, you might want to consider how respect is related to slapping me upside the head with “a few dozen history books”?

No need to answer — just give it some thought.

As for Hoover being the father of “modern” conservatism, I completely disagree, (Reagan has created more of the “modern” conservative mvement) but what does it matter since you seem to have no respect for anyone’s opinion other than your own.

Actually, conservatives view it through a prism that people can do great things regardless of race and color.
No. Conservatives believe in keeping power among one group and convincing others (the rubes, I call them) that they too can benefit from undermining the American system.

How do you think Bill Clinton was able to win those two elections?
By advocating a moderate position on the major issues of the day. Or are you now trying to portray President Clinton, formerly the black-caped spectre of Evil Liberalism as the new Conservative Icon? He campaigned against the policies that brought about the Reagan-Bush deficits, won, and destroyed them only to have the Bush II deficits wipe them out.

As far as gay rights goes, it is Dems who have been including gay Americans under the umbrella of equal rights as Republicans have sought to purge them from society. I certainly don’t agree with every bit of legislation, but Democrats have at the very least not done what the Republicans have – which is to all but stone gays for being what they are. Black Americans are not exactly big fans of gay Americans as a group, yet they have certainly exhibited far more tolerance towards their fellow Americans than major conservative figures like Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, James Dobson and the ilk.

Whether you want to label it “Uncle Tom” or not to actively enable policies that put blacks in the back of the bus is up to you, but I put a lot more credibility in black leaders who don’t seem so uncomfortable in their skin color.

“And the vast majority of those black Republicans, like most black Republicans, seek to undermine black America at the expense of their own personal success (I don t believe Gen. Powell is like that, and of course he s the Bush appointee most hated by the right).”

Professor Oliver Dyson speaks!

Of course there was a time…

“If someone is a racist ass, that person is a racist ass. If you use the activity of one person to be a blanket condemnation of an entire race, you become the racist and no better than a Klan member.”

(Just replace the word “race” with “party.”)

What an idiot you’ve become. (Of course, you probably don’t remember writing that.)

Before you slap me upside the head with one of those book, read the one on Engish usage — although my guess is, it’s not in the pile with the Harry Potter stuff.

And, if you had read one of those history books, you might have found the paragraph, usually buried deep inside, that says that it was Hoover’s ideas, when implemented by FDR, that pulled the US out of the Depression. If it will make feel better to smack someone upside the head with a book, try a Capitol cop — they’re getting used being roughed up — by women.

So Hoover was the first conservative? So Harding and Coolidge were… what? Liberal? And if you say yes, I got a few dozen history books to slap you upside the head with.

” The young black man hesitated as he stood outside the small furniture manufacturing shop in South Los Angeles. He was dressed neatly, and he was well groomed. He eyed the building warily. The sign on the narrow glass door in English and Spanish, read “help wanted” and trabajo aqui. The opening was for a shop helper, mostly to sweep up and do routine clean up and maintenance. It did not require any education or special skill. It paid minimum wage, as did the thousands of shops that dotted the area. The company had no employee health care plan, or other benefits.

After a moment he went in and politely asked for an application. The petite receptionist, a young Latina, handed him an application form, with an airy nonchalance. She curtly suggested that he fill it out and bring it back. When he asked if there would be an interview, she haltingly said only if there was a position open. The young man looked perplexed, glanced at the help wanted sign, politely thanked her and left. A couple of hours later two other young Latinos came in to apply. One was immediately hired. The other was told that another helper job might open up within the next few days. However, the workers in the shop, as they were in nearly all the other shops in the area were Latinos, a large percentage of who were illegal immigrants.

There were no other blacks, whites, or even English speaking native-born Latino workers in the plant or at few of the other shops in the area. This is not a fictional story. I personally witnessed the scene at the company involving the black job seeker. Anti-illegal immigration activists say that the experience of the young black job seeker has played out thousands of times at restaurants, hotels, on farms, and at manufacturing plants nationally, and that this is a major reason so many young black males are unemployed join gangs, deal drugs and pack America’s jails.”

“…played out thousands of times…”…?
Reality is millions of times…
Left or Right, enforce the laws we now have, we need no others…

Where’s the part about McKinney being wrong about calling the Capitol Police racist?

And, by the way, Herbert Hoover is often credited with fathering the modern conservative movement. You remember Hoover, don’t you? When the Democrat – based Klan was organizing huge marches down Pennsylvania Avenue?

No, it is not. If that’s the case, than your Democratic Party is nothing but the party of Republican Light. It’s how they’ve been trying to run, but you wouldn’t dare tell people that’s what the liberal Democratic movement is all about these days.

Republican support for racism isn t and hasn t simply been an electoral gambit.

Dude, make up your mind. You’re saying this now. One comment ago you said the following:

and preached about the evils of integration to help create the GOP dominance we see in the South today?

It s an intellectual belief in inferiority that undermines so much of their policies.

Actually, conservatives view it through a prism that people can do great things regardless of race and color. Conservative beliefs, contrary to what you think are more popular than liberal ones. How do you think Bill Clinton was able to win those two elections? It’s liberals who are prone to a belief of inferiority. They have an attitude that reeks of racism when basically say, “I support such and such a program because I know ‘those people’ cannot do it by themselves.”

I know, it s about denigrating gays now too.

Democratic support for gay rights extends to nothing more than trying to cover them under federal hate crimes legislation. Most Democrats support denying gays the right to marry. Most Democrats support denying gays the right to adopt children. It was a Democrat that instituted “don’t ask, don’t tell.” It was a Democrat that signed “The Defense of Marriage Act.” Again, your side is worse because it talks up gay rights all the time, but doesn’t have the stones to actually go out and so something about it. Hell, your party won’t even propose such legislation.

And the vast majority of those black Republicans, like most black Republicans, seek to undermine black America at the expense of their own personal success

Translation: They’re all Uncle Tom Negroes. They don’t actually believe any of what they say. It’s all so they can make themselves rich.

Cripes.

Up is down, down is up.

Oh and oliver, can you PLEASE explain to me why the Willie Horton issue is racist? A convicted murder is let out on furlough, rapes and tortures people and republicans are racists for suggesting that the guy that let him out shouldn’t be president? Huh?

House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-MD), 4/4/06:
“[E]very one of us who visits the Capitol or any of the office buildings& have a responsibility to fully cooperate with every member of the Capitol Police& They are doing their jobs. We need to help them.”

Please support this thesis…

Currently we have more “people of color” in the bush cabinet than in the last 3 democratic presidents combined. The “elder statesman” of the democrats is a former Grand Kleagle of the KKK for christs sake!

Oliver, the problem is you’re confusing an ideological movement with a political electoral strategy. They are first and foremost, two completely different things. Secondly, it’s a strategy that no longer exists because it’s no longer necessary. The GOP dominance of South these days goes far beyond race.

Has McKinney s coverage been softballed? It s been all over the place, and she s been rightly ridiculed by those putting forth an opinion on the matter. Even the Daily Show took a big swipe at her.

When is another Democrat going to do the same?

As far as the immigration issue, the majority of people support some form of amnesty – its essentially the position that the Dems, independents, and yes even Bush share on this one.

And it’s wrong.

The GOP dominance of South these days goes far beyond race.
I know, it’s about denigrating gays now too. Although I don’t think expanding the sphere of bigotry is necessarily a positive thing.

And it s wrong.
I’ve waited so long to say this to a con: That’s your “opinion”.

Let’s see. Maybe it’s because 80% of illegals are comprised of Mexicans and other Latin American countries while Canadian illegals make up less than 2%.

I think you can figure out the answer to that one, mouse.

Yeah, it’s simple math.

and I am starting to see how frank felt with these lefties stalking me! LOL