http://talkleft.com/new_archives/014516.html

Another Tawana Brawley moment?

Disagree. Rush put up some smokescreen over the air about Ho’s being common vernacular. True, and OW excused a reference to ‘bitches’ by saying it came from a comedian’s routine. If one is wrong, the other is wrong. Rush used the word ‘hos’ not whores, indicating he was to an extent ‘vernacularizing’ (Dugger-invented word). And if would be hypocritical for Rush to say, criticize OW, for his ‘bitches’ post – as is true of the reverse.

And you didn’t properly describe Curmudgeon’s remarks. He didn’t just say he hoped the man choked, he said he hoped he choked and died. I think juvenile hater is an apt description of MR C.

And note I recognize C is just a poster and OW a mid level (but rising) blogger. Whereas Rush is major talk radio (but AM).

Dugger

I recognize the fact that you have noted that the outrage over Rush Limbaugh’s statements are justifiable, but I do disagree with your contention that Oliver referring to “bitches”, or Curmudgeon wishing that Rush would choke on his own vomit are the same thing. Number one, Oliver’s reference to women as bitches is laughable. Number one, because the pseudo street talk from Oliver is about as natural as Fifty Cent quoting Shakespeare, you really can’t take it seriously that he considers all Florida Voters to be “bitches”. Especially since he left himself in there.

 The  bitches in question are the voters of Florida, and all voters in general (including myself).

And Curmudgeon, though I cannot speak for his intent, said he hopes to hear about Rush choking on his own vomit, is probably more a slight at Rush’s own vice’s. It is amazing how some of the most vocal “mouthpieces of morality” always take a hard fall. (i.e. O’Reilly and the phone sex, Cosby and the sexual harassment and affairs and illegitimate children, Majority Party politicians and scandals and probes.) Him saying that alludes to his drug problem, and was probably as sincere as someone saying, “Oh I wish you would go to hell.”

But, for Rush to talk about this girl as being a “ho” was far from a benign statement. His allusion to this being a setup a la Tawana Brawley is sort of cold, but I do agree the guys are innocent until proven guilty. But to talk about an alleged rape victim as being a “ho” is wrong, and simply saying, “But Oliver and Curmudgeon said some naughty things too.”, doesn’t compare to that. The only thing anyone on the right, the left, or the center should say is. “What the hell was he thinking?” But, of course the popularity of most right-wing talk radio is the shock value. People like to hear other people say the things that they themselves cannot muster the strength to say in public.

Me on radio? Well I do have the face for it, but I think I’ll stick to the blogosphere: a much more democratic (and hence, Democratic) medium.

Dugger, I would amend your statement as follows:

“Nobody really hates as intesely as a leftist, except for a rightist.”

Care to dispute that assertion?

Frank: by golly, you’re right: the vast majority of hatemongering blowhards on am radio are right-wingers.

But just to reiterate whats gone on here, we have a complaint (justifiable)about Rush L referring to the persons involved in the Duk lacrosse incident. Fair game. Hwever, the the false rage and sanctimonious attitude are not justifiablee. Witness OWs casual refererce to bitches (Is it reall any different) and Curmudgeons charming wish that Rush dies choking on his vomit.

And I agree that OW is not Rush and Curmudgeon is merely an obscene juvenile hater, but then they are posting on this site and Rush isn’t.

Dugger

Dugger

Yes, JK, considering that there are about a thousand conservative commentators for every liberal, that’s no surprise

“It s usually the radio personalities on the right” who say everything.

He’s not sorry he *said* it, or even that he *felt* it or *thought* it, but rather that someone *heard* him– in other words, he’s “sorry” he got caught.

What an asshole.

Nobody really hates as intensely as a leftist.

Give me a break you whiny bastard. Nobody profits from their intense hate quite like a right-winger.

I just need to figure out how to turn my vitriol into some cold hard cash like Coulter, Rush, Hannity, Savage, Scarbourough, Severin, Boortz, etc…but that would probably mean joining God’s Own Party, and I won’t have that.

Jay Severin has to be the worst example of a mouthpiece gone wild. He calls Al Gore, “Al Whore,” and Hillary Clinton….well, we can’t get into what he calls her on a regular basis.

We all saw the rush to judgement in talk radio, and on the Blogsphere with Ms. Carroll.

Those weren’t liberals calling her a traitor.

You clowns keep making the excuses that both sides do it. Yet, you know damn right well that the right DOMINATES talk radio. Simply saying both sides do it, doesn’t get to the truth, or the full measure of the right’s dominance of talk radio.

I don’t get it. I thought the new Pew study said conservatives were happier than liberals?

JK

Hannity:  & .congressman s next, this is the one negative guy. I m going to pound him too like the other guy& 
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Hannity:  You ought to be ashamed of yourself congressman& . jerk& 
Unknown:  Who?
Hannity:  Jim Moran
Unknown:  Where s he from?
Hannity:  I forget where he s from& Where s he from Finley?
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Hannity:  He wanted to talk about Medicare& Good god, what a jerk& Did you hear that? Asshole. God I hate these people you have no idea. It s unbelievable to me.
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 How pissed was Moran? Not that I give a shit. The schm& I have always& couldn t stand this guy.

http://www.bluestateupdate.com/?m=200503

by a longshot.