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	<description>Like Kryptonite To Stupid</description>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/03/25/an-army-of-domenechs/comment-page-1/#comment-27581</link>
		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Mr Blair was writing making up stories to push for left wing social causes."

He was?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mr Blair was writing making up stories to push for left wing social causes.&#8221;</p>
<p>He was?</p>
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		<title>By: factcheck</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/03/25/an-army-of-domenechs/comment-page-1/#comment-27580</link>
		<dc:creator>factcheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever think he's not "playing" stupid?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever think he&#8217;s not &#8220;playing&#8221; stupid?</p>
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		<title>By: outer_space</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/03/25/an-army-of-domenechs/comment-page-1/#comment-27579</link>
		<dc:creator>outer_space</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana, you don't come here to debate, you come here to play stupid.  You know the president is a deserter, and you know my name is outer_space not lost in space.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana, you don&#8217;t come here to debate, you come here to play stupid.  You know the president is a deserter, and you know my name is outer_space not lost in space.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/03/25/an-army-of-domenechs/comment-page-1/#comment-27578</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uproariously funny!  Lost in Space declares that President Bush is a deserter, but has no proof; if the 60 Minutes story had been valid, it wouldn't have fallen apart the way it did.

And Frame calls it a "non-denial denial?"  A man with a hate Bush agenda pushed forged documents on CBS News people with a similar agenda, and y'all call it real.

Mr Blair was writing making up stories to push for left wing social causes.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uproariously funny!  Lost in Space declares that President Bush is a deserter, but has no proof; if the 60 Minutes story had been valid, it wouldn&#8217;t have fallen apart the way it did.</p>
<p>And Frame calls it a &#8220;non-denial denial?&#8221;  A man with a hate Bush agenda pushed forged documents on CBS News people with a similar agenda, and y&#8217;all call it real.</p>
<p>Mr Blair was writing making up stories to push for left wing social causes.</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/03/25/an-army-of-domenechs/comment-page-1/#comment-27577</link>
		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"you ll find that CBS royally screwed the pooch."

Non denial denial, much? And BTW, how is that you consider the Jayson Blair scandal to be an example of "errors in journalism made by the left"? What's your rationale for making that claim?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;you ll find that CBS royally screwed the pooch.&#8221;</p>
<p>Non denial denial, much? And BTW, how is that you consider the Jayson Blair scandal to be an example of &#8220;errors in journalism made by the left&#8221;? What&#8217;s your rationale for making that claim?</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/03/25/an-army-of-domenechs/comment-page-1/#comment-27576</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lost in Space wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Youre wrong all the time Dana, there was only 1 forged document among many legitimate. And the jury is still out as to who forged it. Are you going to try to deflect this thread into every single instance of alleged liberal lying reporters?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you read the report of the commission that CBS itself set up to investigate the "Rathergate" story, you'll find that CBS royally screwed the pooch.  The story was a complete fabrication.

You think that "many righties are defending (our) plagiarist pal?"  Allow me to suggest that you try Patterico's &lt;a href="http://patterico.com/2006/03/25/4373/domenech-has-a-way-with-other-peoples-words/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Domenech has a way with other peoples' words,&lt;/a&gt; or Jeff Goldstein's &lt;a href="http://www.proteinwisdom.com/index.php/weblog/entry/20058/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Domenech takes responsibility,&lt;/a&gt; in which he wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;he made mistakes in judgment that are to be condemned in no uncertain terms,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Now, a lot of conservatives liked Mr Domenech, and some, including Mr Goldstein hope that he can eventually work his way back, but I haven't read any which have said that he ought to suffer no professional punishment.

What I have said is that it seems somewhat hypocritical that condemnation from the left of the errors in journalism made by the left is so lacking; at least there was nothing to be found on Mr Willis' site search engine.

Of course, I haven't written anything on &lt;i&gt;my&lt;/i&gt; site about this topic yet.  Then again, I don't recall ever even reading anything, original or purloined, by Mr Domenech; even I can't read everything!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lost in Space wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Youre wrong all the time Dana, there was only 1 forged document among many legitimate. And the jury is still out as to who forged it. Are you going to try to deflect this thread into every single instance of alleged liberal lying reporters?</p></blockquote>
<p>If you read the report of the commission that CBS itself set up to investigate the &#8220;Rathergate&#8221; story, you&#8217;ll find that CBS royally screwed the pooch.  The story was a complete fabrication.</p>
<p>You think that &#8220;many righties are defending (our) plagiarist pal?&#8221;  Allow me to suggest that you try Patterico&#8217;s <a href="http://patterico.com/2006/03/25/4373/domenech-has-a-way-with-other-peoples-words/" rel="nofollow">Domenech has a way with other peoples&#8217; words,</a> or Jeff Goldstein&#8217;s <a href="http://www.proteinwisdom.com/index.php/weblog/entry/20058/" rel="nofollow">Domenech takes responsibility,</a> in which he wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>he made mistakes in judgment that are to be condemned in no uncertain terms,</p></blockquote>
<p>Now, a lot of conservatives liked Mr Domenech, and some, including Mr Goldstein hope that he can eventually work his way back, but I haven&#8217;t read any which have said that he ought to suffer no professional punishment.</p>
<p>What I have said is that it seems somewhat hypocritical that condemnation from the left of the errors in journalism made by the left is so lacking; at least there was nothing to be found on Mr Willis&#8217; site search engine.</p>
<p>Of course, I haven&#8217;t written anything on <i>my</i> site about this topic yet.  Then again, I don&#8217;t recall ever even reading anything, original or purloined, by Mr Domenech; even I can&#8217;t read everything!</p>
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		<title>By: outer_space</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/03/25/an-army-of-domenechs/comment-page-1/#comment-27575</link>
		<dc:creator>outer_space</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush is a deserter with political connections that let him get away with it.  Just because 1 document that said so was forged doesnt mean its not the truth.  Isnt it convenient to ignore all the evidence except for 1 forged document?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush is a deserter with political connections that let him get away with it.  Just because 1 document that said so was forged doesnt mean its not the truth.  Isnt it convenient to ignore all the evidence except for 1 forged document?</p>
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		<title>By: outer_space</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/03/25/an-army-of-domenechs/comment-page-1/#comment-27574</link>
		<dc:creator>outer_space</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Youre wrong all the time Dana, there was only 1 forged document among many legitimate.  And the jury is still out as to who forged it.  Are you going to try to deflect this thread into every single instance of alleged liberal lying reporters?  Plenty of liberals condemned Blair, NOBODY was defending him UNLIKE the way many righties are defending your plagiarist pal.  Why would you expect this site to have written about something that had little to do with mr boxturtle and happened 4 years ago?  Why do you have this expectation, given the equivalence youre trying to draw, even when most righty blogs havnt mentioned boxturtle or when they do mention him they praise him?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Youre wrong all the time Dana, there was only 1 forged document among many legitimate.  And the jury is still out as to who forged it.  Are you going to try to deflect this thread into every single instance of alleged liberal lying reporters?  Plenty of liberals condemned Blair, NOBODY was defending him UNLIKE the way many righties are defending your plagiarist pal.  Why would you expect this site to have written about something that had little to do with mr boxturtle and happened 4 years ago?  Why do you have this expectation, given the equivalence youre trying to draw, even when most righty blogs havnt mentioned boxturtle or when they do mention him they praise him?</p>
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		<title>By: factcheck</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/03/25/an-army-of-domenechs/comment-page-1/#comment-27573</link>
		<dc:creator>factcheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana demonstrates the common con tactic of "A Dem did something bad sometime in history, therefore Democrats cannot ever criticize any con."

Intellectually bankrupt.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana demonstrates the common con tactic of &#8220;A Dem did something bad sometime in history, therefore Democrats cannot ever criticize any con.&#8221;</p>
<p>Intellectually bankrupt.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/03/25/an-army-of-domenechs/comment-page-1/#comment-27572</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Factcheck failed to check his facts:

&lt;blockquote&gt;If you want to discuss Jayson Blair, maybe you should do it on the con blogs- oops they don t allow comments. My bad. Except for redstate, ironically enough.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Try &lt;a href="http://patterico.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Patterico's Pontifications&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a&gt;Sister Toldjah&lt;/a&gt; or even my own humble site; they all allow comments.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Factcheck failed to check his facts:</p>
<blockquote><p>If you want to discuss Jayson Blair, maybe you should do it on the con blogs- oops they don t allow comments. My bad. Except for redstate, ironically enough.</p></blockquote>
<p>Try <a href="http://patterico.com/" rel="nofollow">Patterico&#8217;s Pontifications</a> or <a>Sister Toldjah</a> or even my own humble site; they all allow comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/03/25/an-army-of-domenechs/comment-page-1/#comment-27571</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lost in Space  :)  wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;when righties lose a debate they always play the  libruls do it too  card. I dont remember any liberal defending Blair. When everyone agrees someone is wrong, why should there be a debate?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Were you to check the conservative sites, you'd see many of them have expressed a lot of disappointment in and condemnation of Mr Domenech's actions; where was our esteemed host in doing so when Mr. Blair was trashing journalistic integrity.

A further site search for "Dan Rather," "Mary Mapes," "Rathergate" and "forged documents" returned zero hits as well; did our honored host fail to mention that sorry episode as well, or is it just that his search engine is less than efficient?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lost in Space  <img src='http://www.oliverwillis.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>when righties lose a debate they always play the  libruls do it too  card. I dont remember any liberal defending Blair. When everyone agrees someone is wrong, why should there be a debate?</p></blockquote>
<p>Were you to check the conservative sites, you&#8217;d see many of them have expressed a lot of disappointment in and condemnation of Mr Domenech&#8217;s actions; where was our esteemed host in doing so when Mr. Blair was trashing journalistic integrity.</p>
<p>A further site search for &#8220;Dan Rather,&#8221; &#8220;Mary Mapes,&#8221; &#8220;Rathergate&#8221; and &#8220;forged documents&#8221; returned zero hits as well; did our honored host fail to mention that sorry episode as well, or is it just that his search engine is less than efficient?</p>
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		<title>By: factcheck</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/03/25/an-army-of-domenechs/comment-page-1/#comment-27570</link>
		<dc:creator>factcheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 00:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your post is based on false premises, wrong is wrong.   BTW, what does his race have to do with his plagiarism?  Racist.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your post is based on false premises, wrong is wrong.   BTW, what does his race have to do with his plagiarism?  Racist.</p>
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		<title>By: rightisright</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/03/25/an-army-of-domenechs/comment-page-1/#comment-27569</link>
		<dc:creator>rightisright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 00:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>factcheck,

You didn't miss the part about Blair being a liberal writer for the most liberal paper in the USA who just happened to be  black , did you?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>factcheck,</p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t miss the part about Blair being a liberal writer for the most liberal paper in the USA who just happened to be  black , did you?</p>
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		<title>By: outer_space</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/03/25/an-army-of-domenechs/comment-page-1/#comment-27568</link>
		<dc:creator>outer_space</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 00:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when righties lose a debate they always play the 'libruls do it too' card.  I dont remember any liberal defending Blair.  When everyone agrees someone is wrong, why should there be a debate?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when righties lose a debate they always play the &#8216;libruls do it too&#8217; card.  I dont remember any liberal defending Blair.  When everyone agrees someone is wrong, why should there be a debate?</p>
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		<title>By: factcheck</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/03/25/an-army-of-domenechs/comment-page-1/#comment-27567</link>
		<dc:creator>factcheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 00:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to discuss Jayson Blair, maybe you should do it on the con blogs- oops they don't allow comments.  My bad.  Except for redstate, ironically enough.

Back to BTB, he is another faulty product from a long line of Young Republicans, cultivated from the think tanks.  Bush White House appointee, check.  Works for Regnery, check.  Look for him soon at Faux with the rest of the fallen cons like Ollie North (felon).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to discuss Jayson Blair, maybe you should do it on the con blogs- oops they don&#8217;t allow comments.  My bad.  Except for redstate, ironically enough.</p>
<p>Back to BTB, he is another faulty product from a long line of Young Republicans, cultivated from the think tanks.  Bush White House appointee, check.  Works for Regnery, check.  Look for him soon at Faux with the rest of the fallen cons like Ollie North (felon).</p>
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		<title>By: factcheck</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/03/25/an-army-of-domenechs/comment-page-1/#comment-27566</link>
		<dc:creator>factcheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I missed the part where Jayson Blair was a Democratic party operative and worked for the President.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I missed the part where Jayson Blair was a Democratic party operative and worked for the President.</p>
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		<title>By: The Poor Man Institute » The Spanish Prisoner</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Poor Man Institute » The Spanish Prisoner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 22:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] e Spanish Prisoner
Posted by The Editors under Uncategorized 

The way they play the game: 	While Domenech s violations were blatant, it is status quo for the cons [...]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] e Spanish Prisoner<br />
Posted by The Editors under Uncategorized </p>
<p>The way they play the game: 	While Domenech s violations were blatant, it is status quo for the cons [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quick count shows that our honored host has written seven separate posts on Ben Domenech in the past few days, but a website search, using this site's own search engine, returned zero references to Jayson Blair.

Surely our host would never split differences on journalistic integrity based upon the political orientation of the offenders, would he?  I guess that his search engine just missed the several articles he wrote about Mr Blair.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quick count shows that our honored host has written seven separate posts on Ben Domenech in the past few days, but a website search, using this site&#8217;s own search engine, returned zero references to Jayson Blair.</p>
<p>Surely our host would never split differences on journalistic integrity based upon the political orientation of the offenders, would he?  I guess that his search engine just missed the several articles he wrote about Mr Blair.</p>
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		<title>By: duros62</title>
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		<dc:creator>duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 16:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Random thoughts:
If you're going to review a movie, see the movie. How frikkin' hard is it to write a movie review, fachrissakes?
If you cite someone else's work, cite it and credit the author. Don't claim it as your own.
If your editors are in the habit of padding your columns with stuff you didn't write, get another editor and report them to &lt;b&gt;their&lt;/b&gt; superiors.
Lastly, I find it amusing that the supporters at RedState.org go to great lengths to blame the liberal blogosphere for the downfall of Mr. BTB. There is a great deal of name calling and gnashing of teeth.  No one has chastised Mr. Ben for his intellectual laziness.
Now let's pick up the shattered pieces and move on with our lives, shall we?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Random thoughts:<br />
If you&#8217;re going to review a movie, see the movie. How frikkin&#8217; hard is it to write a movie review, fachrissakes?<br />
If you cite someone else&#8217;s work, cite it and credit the author. Don&#8217;t claim it as your own.<br />
If your editors are in the habit of padding your columns with stuff you didn&#8217;t write, get another editor and report them to <b>their</b> superiors.<br />
Lastly, I find it amusing that the supporters at RedState.org go to great lengths to blame the liberal blogosphere for the downfall of Mr. BTB. There is a great deal of name calling and gnashing of teeth.  No one has chastised Mr. Ben for his intellectual laziness.<br />
Now let&#8217;s pick up the shattered pieces and move on with our lives, shall we?</p>
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		<title>By: Rheinhard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rheinhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 16:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Mr Domenech did something stupid, and he got caught; his career is probably ruined.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ha!  Would that it were so.  As a commenter on another blog put it, I'm sure Mr. Domenench will have to endure whole agonizing days of unemployment before being offered a nice six figure sinecure at AEI or Heritage.  Hell, as far as I know he still has his "editing" gig at Regnery.

And that's really the thing which most pisses me off about this guy, and the others like him ( &lt;a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/03/12.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Pierce Bush&lt;/a&gt; ), which is going to be totally overlooked in the followup hand-wringing and whining on redstate.org about us cruel leftists.

This guy, like many right-wing bloviators, lectures us "liberal elitists" over and over about how "real Americans" feel about things.  Yet the lives of guys like this in no way whatsover resemble those of "real Americans", and I'm convinced that this is a big part of why they have no empathy whatsover for the poor and working classes.

Box Turtle Boy got every single damn thing in his life handed to him courtesy of Daddy's money and political connections.  He has never, for a single day, had to worry about where his next meal is coming from, whether he would be able to see a doctor if he got sick, whether he would get accepted into college, whether his parents could afford to pay for said college, or whether he'd be able to find a good job when he graduated.

Not that he even bothered with the latter.  I've now read that it's confirmed that Box Turtle didn't even bother to graduate from William &#038; Mary.  Yet before even the 10th reunion of the class he &lt;i&gt;would have been in&lt;/i&gt; had he &lt;i&gt;gotten the diploma&lt;/i&gt;, he is writing speeches for Senators, playing editor at Regnery, being "the youngest Bush appointee", and has a cushy writing gig at the Washington Post, one of the principal papers of record of our national discourse.  Now, I agree with Atrios in that I think the importance of the college degree is overrated and it shouldn't in general be considered a barrier to entry to a lot of professions; however I'm quite certain that there is no way on God's earth that any &lt;i&gt;other&lt;/i&gt; person without a degree could have gotten a fraction as far as Domenench without Daddy's connections or something like.

Hell, the vast majority of people &lt;i&gt;with&lt;/i&gt; fancy degrees couldn't get so far so fast without connections.  I attended an Ivy League university (U. of Pennsylvania - Go Quakers!, though I know this makes me another "elitist"), took up what most people would consider a somewhat rigorous field of study (physics), graduated with honors, and went on to post-graduate study in the same field.  Nevertheless, upon graduation, I had some trouble finding a job and had some financial difficulties because of it (since resolved).  There's certainly no way I could have walked into the Senate or the Oval Office and said "OK, give me my gig now."

Further, the only reason I could afford to attend such an "elitist" school is because of a combination of (a) scholarship money, (b) financial aid including Pell grants and work-study programs, (c) student loans, and (d) the "Penn Plan", allowing tuition and fees to be payed over longer terms in installments, rather than in a lump sum at the start of the semester.  Without all these, there is no way my family could have sent me to this school.  My grandparents all immigrated here in the 1920s, and struggled to make it in a foreign land.  My father, an Army veteran, could never have afforded our house payments and my college tuition, even spread out over a number of years, without being able to work overtime almost every day for decades at his job as a tool &#038; die maker (a blue collar job which he always felt needed a Union because of how the workers were frequently shat upon by management).  The very financial aid programs I mentioned that allowed me to attend an "elite" university have been severely cut by Ben's patrons in this administration.  Ben and his rich conservative friends insist they're more in tune with "real America" than progressives like me, yet I somehow doubt he had to take out a single dime in student loans.

I came to my progressive (but overall fairly moderate, IMO) views precisely because of thinking about and understanding the kinds of struggles my parents and grandparents had to face.  Yet, in the heated rhetoric poisoning our national discourse every day thanks to Box Turtle and his apologists, I am a crazy, America-hating, barking leftist moonbat  elitist who is out of touch with "real Americans".  I defy anyone to look at the lives of Box Turtle, or Pierce "soon-to-be Senate intern" Bush, or President George "Connecticut raised but plays a cowboy on TV" W. Bush, and explain to me how they are more American, or more in touch with "heartland values", or anything, than I am or millions of people like me are.

&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;P.S.&lt;/b&gt; - Oliver, is there some way to modify the comment system so that HTML anchor tags referring to a web page with location markers (e.g., something like "http://foo.com/bar.html#marker") will work?  I wanted to provide some additional links to posts in the middle of external pages, but found if the "#" marker was there the comment system didn't recognize the anchor tag or any text after it...&lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Mr Domenech did something stupid, and he got caught; his career is probably ruined.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ha!  Would that it were so.  As a commenter on another blog put it, I&#8217;m sure Mr. Domenench will have to endure whole agonizing days of unemployment before being offered a nice six figure sinecure at AEI or Heritage.  Hell, as far as I know he still has his &#8220;editing&#8221; gig at Regnery.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s really the thing which most pisses me off about this guy, and the others like him ( <a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/03/12.html" rel="nofollow">Pierce Bush</a> ), which is going to be totally overlooked in the followup hand-wringing and whining on redstate.org about us cruel leftists.</p>
<p>This guy, like many right-wing bloviators, lectures us &#8220;liberal elitists&#8221; over and over about how &#8220;real Americans&#8221; feel about things.  Yet the lives of guys like this in no way whatsover resemble those of &#8220;real Americans&#8221;, and I&#8217;m convinced that this is a big part of why they have no empathy whatsover for the poor and working classes.</p>
<p>Box Turtle Boy got every single damn thing in his life handed to him courtesy of Daddy&#8217;s money and political connections.  He has never, for a single day, had to worry about where his next meal is coming from, whether he would be able to see a doctor if he got sick, whether he would get accepted into college, whether his parents could afford to pay for said college, or whether he&#8217;d be able to find a good job when he graduated.</p>
<p>Not that he even bothered with the latter.  I&#8217;ve now read that it&#8217;s confirmed that Box Turtle didn&#8217;t even bother to graduate from William &#038; Mary.  Yet before even the 10th reunion of the class he <i>would have been in</i> had he <i>gotten the diploma</i>, he is writing speeches for Senators, playing editor at Regnery, being &#8220;the youngest Bush appointee&#8221;, and has a cushy writing gig at the Washington Post, one of the principal papers of record of our national discourse.  Now, I agree with Atrios in that I think the importance of the college degree is overrated and it shouldn&#8217;t in general be considered a barrier to entry to a lot of professions; however I&#8217;m quite certain that there is no way on God&#8217;s earth that any <i>other</i> person without a degree could have gotten a fraction as far as Domenench without Daddy&#8217;s connections or something like.</p>
<p>Hell, the vast majority of people <i>with</i> fancy degrees couldn&#8217;t get so far so fast without connections.  I attended an Ivy League university (U. of Pennsylvania - Go Quakers!, though I know this makes me another &#8220;elitist&#8221;), took up what most people would consider a somewhat rigorous field of study (physics), graduated with honors, and went on to post-graduate study in the same field.  Nevertheless, upon graduation, I had some trouble finding a job and had some financial difficulties because of it (since resolved).  There&#8217;s certainly no way I could have walked into the Senate or the Oval Office and said &#8220;OK, give me my gig now.&#8221;</p>
<p>Further, the only reason I could afford to attend such an &#8220;elitist&#8221; school is because of a combination of (a) scholarship money, (b) financial aid including Pell grants and work-study programs, (c) student loans, and (d) the &#8220;Penn Plan&#8221;, allowing tuition and fees to be payed over longer terms in installments, rather than in a lump sum at the start of the semester.  Without all these, there is no way my family could have sent me to this school.  My grandparents all immigrated here in the 1920s, and struggled to make it in a foreign land.  My father, an Army veteran, could never have afforded our house payments and my college tuition, even spread out over a number of years, without being able to work overtime almost every day for decades at his job as a tool &#038; die maker (a blue collar job which he always felt needed a Union because of how the workers were frequently shat upon by management).  The very financial aid programs I mentioned that allowed me to attend an &#8220;elite&#8221; university have been severely cut by Ben&#8217;s patrons in this administration.  Ben and his rich conservative friends insist they&#8217;re more in tune with &#8220;real America&#8221; than progressives like me, yet I somehow doubt he had to take out a single dime in student loans.</p>
<p>I came to my progressive (but overall fairly moderate, IMO) views precisely because of thinking about and understanding the kinds of struggles my parents and grandparents had to face.  Yet, in the heated rhetoric poisoning our national discourse every day thanks to Box Turtle and his apologists, I am a crazy, America-hating, barking leftist moonbat  elitist who is out of touch with &#8220;real Americans&#8221;.  I defy anyone to look at the lives of Box Turtle, or Pierce &#8220;soon-to-be Senate intern&#8221; Bush, or President George &#8220;Connecticut raised but plays a cowboy on TV&#8221; W. Bush, and explain to me how they are more American, or more in touch with &#8220;heartland values&#8221;, or anything, than I am or millions of people like me are.</p>
<p><i><b>P.S.</b> - Oliver, is there some way to modify the comment system so that HTML anchor tags referring to a web page with location markers (e.g., something like &#8220;http://foo.com/bar.html#marker&#8221;) will work?  I wanted to provide some additional links to posts in the middle of external pages, but found if the &#8220;#&#8221; marker was there the comment system didn&#8217;t recognize the anchor tag or any text after it&#8230;</i></p>
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