Comments on: Iraq’s Pollyannas

By: Dugger

Dugger — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:03:09 +0000

duros,

“I still fail to see the inaccuracy of the statement.”

I completely agree that you fail to see the inaccuracy of that statement.

Dugger

By: duros62

duros62 — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:03:37 +0000

Hodean: The truth is, Karl Rove breached our national security for partisan gain and that is both unpatriotic and wrong.

I still fail to see the inaccuracy of the statement.
Does the prosecution contend that breaching national security is a patriotic act?
I’m not an attorney, but I’ve seen one on TV.

By: Dugger

Dugger — Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:03:59 +0000

“And how is that questioning his patriotism?”

“Hodean: The truth is, Karl Rove breached our national security for partisan gain and that is both unpatriotic and wrong.”

Your Honor, the prosecution rests.

Progressives, do you intend to put on a defense?

First thing your honor, we would like to fire our attorney.

Dugger Cochrane, If Hodean has a fit, you must acquit!

By: duros62

duros62 — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:03:50 +0000

And how is that questioning his patriotism? He probably thought it is a patriotic act to reveal the indentity of a covert CIA operative to get back at her husband for being critical of the admin.

Though I don’t profess to read minds.

By: duros62

duros62 — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:03:32 +0000

Just because it is against the law doesn’t neccessarily make it unpatriotic, right?

By: duros62

duros62 — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:03:15 +0000

I see nothing wrong with that. It’s true.

By: Dugger

Dugger — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:03:04 +0000

“Howard Dean: Karl Rove only has a White House job and a security clearance because President Bush has refused to keep his promise to fire anyone involved in revealing the identity of an undercover CIA operative. The truth is, Karl Rove breached our national security for partisan gain and that is both unpatriotic and wrong. ”

Dugger

By: frameone

frameone — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 23:03:19 +0000

Dugger –

Dean’s said a lot of things about Karl Rove. Want to actually provide the quote? Or don’t you do your own research?

By: duros62

duros62 — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:03:58 +0000

Again, change the subject.

By: Dugger

Dugger — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:03:49 +0000

OK by me. I won’t do your research for you. Re patriotism, check out Howard Deans quote on Karl Rove – thats challenging someone’s patriotism.

Dugger

By: mjb

mjb — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:03:11 +0000

Dugger, duros listed a bunch of people who questioned the patriotism of people like me, so I didn’t feel the need to do it again. You know what these people said, it’s too time consuming to again provide the same examples you’ve seen on OW in the past. Either you can deny these people questioned our patriotism or admit they did and address why you support them in doing so. i’m done with this thread.

By: JK

JK — Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:03:27 +0000

>>Whats the real point. Is each conservative guilty of the sins of every other conservative? Only conservatives. Are you guilty becasue of the unabomber?

Dugger…you’re not making sense at this point.

Take a breath. Relax. Respond.

Wow. That’s out there.

By: Dugger

Dugger — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:03:55 +0000

mjb,

Yeah I did. Said it was possible but asked for examples. Got a bunch of general names. Whats the real point. Is each conservative guilty of the sins of every other conservative? Only conservatives. Are you guilty becasue of the unabomber? Be more specific. I can’t guess at what the point is.

Dugger

By: JK

JK — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:03:53 +0000

Duros….Bush also ran on a policy not to “nation-build.”

But then they scream 9/11. As if 9/11 has anything to do with invading Iraq. To paraphrase Dugger…”not one connection documented.”

Look…man, it’s like banging your head against all wall. One very astute person in here said it’s like that movie “Groundhog Day.”

Today, on Imus, Tim Russert said that virtually EVERYTHING this administration has said about the war, has not come to pass. It simply hasn’t become “truth.” They have a huge credibility gap on this war, and FINALLY, the American people seem to be waking up.

I don’t expect a policy change from this group of clowns at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. However, as long as people like us keep hammering them on it, that is, we’ll get rid of this group of clowns, for another group, hopefully less clown-like.

By: frameone

frameone — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:03:40 +0000

“By the way I could get you a cut and paste that illustrates how terroists didn t really fly a jet into the Pentagon. Must be true, huh?”

How does cutting and pasting something automatically negate its validity? I could cut and past in the Pythagorean Theory. Would that make it invalid? Let’s see:

“In a right triangle the square of the measure of the hypotenuse is equal to the the sum of the squares of the measures of the legs.”

Nope, it’s still true. Dugger sometimes your lunacy amazes me.

By: duros62

duros62 — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:03:30 +0000

I appreciate that, JK. I realize the pointlessness of trying to shed light on the truthiness. Black is white, up is down, ignorance is bliss.
And they call Liberals Moonbats. I don’t get it.

By: duros62

duros62 — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:03:55 +0000

WTF, how is it opinion? You haven’t told me that. You’re sidestepping.

By: Dugger

Dugger — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:03:50 +0000

duros, You didn’t hurt anything. Made me look good (thanks!). This is the Internet and name calling and foul language is often used as a dodge to avoid a weak debate position. But I don’t harass people, so I will back off. Any time, though, you would like to actually debate the issue as opposed to cutting and pasting other’s opinions, fine by me.

Dugger, Still haven’t found a ‘lie’

By: duros62

duros62 — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:03:16 +0000

He stated I remember campaigning in Chicago and one of the reporters said, Would you ever deficit spend? I said, Only only in times of war, in times of economy insecurity as a result of a recession or in times of national emergency. Never did I dream we d have a trifecta. The White House repeated this trifecta claim throughout 2002.

FACTS: Bush never made such a statement in Chicago nor anywhere else during the 2000 campaign. In fact, these three caveats on deficits were stated on several occasions by Vice President Gore. Bush s attempt to pin the deficit on the war also is a misstatement, since the cost of the Bush tax cuts is three times the cost of the response to 9-11 and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Source: New Republic 07.01.02

By: JK

JK — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:03:06 +0000

>>Any time, though, you would like to actually debate the issue as opposed to cutting and pasting other s opinions, fine by me.

You have got to be kidding me. So the “views” of the 41st President of the United States should not be part of any reasonable discussion? (The fact that he’s W’s Father isn’t really important.)

Talk about cherry picking your argument.

You just got your butt kicked by George Herbert Bush, Dugger.

If 2,300 American troops weren’t dead, I’d be gleefull.