Factcheck:You just couldn t make this stuff up, folks. Nice  some of my best friends are& . argument too. Stop it Frank, you re killing me.

I challenge people to look, but I might as well say, don’t bother, because you’re not going to find any.

Not necessarily, see below.

2) Are there only two opinions about racism in this country: liberal opinion and racist opinion?

No.

3) Can one oppose any portion of the liberal / democratic agenda with regard to blacks, and not be a racist? If so, how? If so, which portion?

Yes. I oppose numerical quotas and cash reparations.

4) If a person were to think that there was a material upside to slavery, would that automatically make them a racist, i.e., One who believes that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others; 2 One who discriminates or has prejudice based on race.?

Again, not necessarily. But, this whole debate reminds me of GHW Bush’s claim that Michael Dukakis was a “card carrying” member of the ACLU. Facutually true but loaded, nonetheless. Yes, you can point out that, factually, many current decendents of slaves are better off than their African counterparts. And there may be a “material upside” to slavery? But think how loaded those statements are. And if they’re used to greatly discount the horrors of slavery, then the person doing so is incredibly insensitive if not racist.

“Let the attacks begin& I m sure I said the wrong thing somewhere”

Like this?:

“You are undoubtedly a liberal. Your hypocritical smarminess oozes from every pixel.”

Thanks for the clarification Frank. You use ethnic slurs instead of racial slurs. Check.

And, again, I remind you, the ethnic groups that occupy the Middle East are just that, ethnic groups — not races. So stop beating the same stupid drum. You can call me a racist ’til the end of time, and as annoying as it might be, that won’t make it true.

Finally, to even suggest that slavery had a material upside is an outrage. Set aside the rhetoric, and if there’s anything left, tell me why you think so. After all, a fact is a fact. That material upside doesn’t justify slavery, anymore than the existence of an independent Israel justifies the Holocaust, especially since the former was not the cause of the latter (aside: nice try smearing me as an anti – semite. I suppose now I’ll have to make a formal statement repudiating the Holocaust.)

And, oh yes, good answers to the questions — who writes your material, Al Franken, or Bill Maher?

“Frameone, don t lecture me about racism, you putz, I grew up with black people all around me, and my wife is Puerto Rican, you imbecile!”

You just couldn’t make this stuff up, folks. Nice “some of my best friends are….” argument too. Stop it Frank, you’re killing me.

“stipulate that the woman is a racist, and we stipulate that slavery was not a blessing from God” is not a refutation?

If you’re that friggin’ obtuse, I’ll make it plain: I, THAT IS, ME, THAT IS, THE PERSON WHO IS TYPING, FRANK_D, DO HEREBY AND FORTHWITH, BEFORE ALL THESE PRESENTS, RENOUNCE AND REPUDIATE ADELE FERGUSON’S ARTICLE, INCLUDING THE PUNCTUATION AND FONT.

Happy, now?

factcheck: Is it within your ability to be serious about anything?

1) I think it says “ex – slave” doesn’t it? Why would I have to “stipulate” it?

2) What the hell does “it just works out that way” mean?

3) A non – question? — You mean lefties have no answer

4) Please demonstrate that, if possible, without rpeating yourself.

STOP ATTACKING ME FOR A FRIGGIN’ SECOND AND SAY SOMETHING.

Frameone, don’t lecture me about racism, you putz, I grew up with black people all around me, and my wife is Puerto Rican, you imbecile!

Stop winding up for the uppercut, and read the friggin’ posts, before you type the insults.

Come on Frank. Answer the question. Stick says real conservatives don’t support Ferguson’s argument. He rejected it, plainly. You haven’t.

The impact of slavery on this country was deep with complex consequences that we are still sorting out today. Blacks are not playing the victim, as Ferguson asserts. The real material effects of slavery are still with us today. Ferguson’s article and it’s quick removal, in and of themselves, are proof enough of that.

In a culture like this, when the impact of slavery is so deep and widespread, to even suggest that slavery had a material upside is an outrage. And yet, as we have seen, some conservatives don’t simply whisper this thought amongst themselves safe in the knowledge that “we’re all white here” — like the way you use racial epithets Frank. No they have tried to bring this crap out into the public and make it a matter of public policy. Other’s simply refuse to reject and so become complicit in its spread. Way to go Frank.

I was thinking about this whole issue last night (something you all seem unwilling or unable to do) and I have some ideas:
Suppose we all stipulate that the woman is a racist, and we stipulate that slavery was not a blessing from God.

I have a few questions:

1) Is it racist to say that the life of the average American ex – slave is better, over all, than the life of the average African? {Even if you disagree with me, is it racist to say so?}

2) Are there only two opinions about racism in this country: liberal opinion and racist opinion?

3) Can one oppose any portion of the liberal / democratic agenda with regard to blacks, and not be a racist? If so, how? If so, which portion?

4) If a person were to think that there was a material upside to slavery, would that automatically make them a racist, i.e., One who believes that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others; 2 One who discriminates or has prejudice based on race.?

Nearly every ethnic group in Europe, and, of course, many other parts of the world, has been enslaved (”serf” is nothing but a fancy word for slave). Can’t we say there were positive effects, and at the same time, say that slavery is an inexcusable assault on human dignity.

People who enter recovery from drug and alcohol addiction are often called “survivors” because they confronted their oppressor, and overcame him.

This is what the slaves did in America. If we can’t talk about the “elephant in the parlor”, then how can we actually do anything about it?

Let the attacks begin… I’m sure I said the wrong thing somewhere.

Got projection?

I notice you still didn’t denounce any of her statements. Which of her statements do you disagree with? Or is it mega-dittos? You’ve made racist statements here in the past, does this woman speak for you as a conservative?

It isn’t racist to “ignore why Africa is …” etc., that’s purely your idea that it is racist not have the same concerns as you. You might as well say it’s racist to prefer sherbert to ice cream.

But then again, intelligence in your comments has never been you strong suit.
Pseudo – intelligence, condescencion, name calling, demeaning people you disagree with — that’s what you’re good at!

How does one go about renouncing an article, written by someone else, with whom I have no relationship, and for whom I have no responsibility?

And, suppose I did renounce the article, what earthly purpose would it serve?
We’re talking about an article which has already been removed from sight faster tha a cartoon of Mohammed.

As to the second statement, even it is incorrest, is it racist? Does it someway glorify slavery?

If you have a point to make, why be coy? It’s not like you to be so shy…