Comments on: Opportunity Moment

By: duros62

duros62 — Sat, 18 Mar 2006 19:03:55 +0000

I don’t get it, Frank. My shift button sticks. Sorry, didn’t mean to capitalize.

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:03:52 +0000

i·ro·ny (+'rY-n, +'Yr-), n. humbly spelled with a capital "H".

By: duros62

duros62 — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:03:34 +0000

And not a single lie has been documented. And so I Humbly offer this.. http://www.bushlies.net/pages/10/index.htm Who are you, and what have you done with Paul? I knew it, you guys, deep down....

By: Dugger

Dugger — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:03:19 +0000

Sermant

This is probably too old for you to catch, but—-

“he allowed his desire to find a good end, to be justified by
lying to get there. ”

You are actually close IMO. “lying” of course is your mind reading. But it is quite possible for someone, anyone, to ‘know’ the right answer, the best thing for all concerned’ ahead of time and fixate on it to the point that they don’t properly judge the importance of other events/data. That is called “misjudgement” not be confused with lying —- if, in fact, it happened.

Dugger (Mind you, I don’t swear there has been no lying – that would equally be myself mind reading. We would be better off judging the war on its merits/defects than guesing about peoples’ motives.)

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:03:17 +0000

Good answer, frameone. One I’ve come to expect from you — evidence of the heights to which you aspire.

By: frameone

frameone — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 03:03:39 +0000

Just so you don’t lose any sleep worrying about me, Frank: You’re an idiot.

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:03:42 +0000

If I knew I wasn’t going to be set up for the ususal outpouring of insults by way of introduction to a mostly insubstantial comment, I’d ask you which was the “rock” and which was the “hard place,” but I know better.

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:03:05 +0000

Who are you, and what have you done with Paul? No insults (of me, anyway, just the President), no name calling? I want to talk to Paul, and I mean now…

By: frameone

frameone — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:03:28 +0000

Yes, Frank. Kaine remains critical of the war and how it began but now realizes that Bush’s incompetence has put us between a rock and a hard place. He sounds a lot like Bush.

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:03:27 +0000

frameone, you ignorant idiotic moron! (I was just trying it out… It doesn’t seem to do much for me. What does it do for you? Still getting that tingly feeling in your “private parts”?)
I quoted him, because he was a particular (liberal) hero of Oliver’s, who, after returning from Iraq, came back sounding very much like GWB.
You dimwitted asshole (nah.. still not doing anything for me).

By: Semanticleo

Semanticleo — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:03:57 +0000

Frank;

You have already made the tacit admission that this war was
doomed from the start. Get over.

By: Semanticleo

Semanticleo — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:03:56 +0000

Dugger;

(responding to way earlier comment-missed it-sorry)

“Of course, he believed (as did the Congress that supported him) he was right. But why do it? For what purpose? Oil? Terrorism? Revenge for Dad? Remember you are opining he deliberately lied us into war.”

He invaded a foreign country and removed the leadership of that land
because he believed it would have a long range
benefit in the war on terror. That is the best case scenario for his
a.)motives b.)state of mind that I can conjure for him.

But he allowed his desire to find a good end, to be justified by
lying to get there.

By: Semanticleo

Semanticleo — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:03:27 +0000

Dug;

Someone way up in the thread made a reference to the OJ trial.

I made a vague paralellism which you may have missed.

“ If the shoe does not fit, you must acquit

Lies is an ephemeral notion when you have the power to
derail investigations by manipulating political bodies. ”

That, “no lie has been documented” in your view,
could have a connection to the control of information.

By: frameone

frameone — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 04:03:25 +0000

“Ask him& He said it.”

And you quoted him why?

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 00:03:36 +0000

Ask him… He said it.

By: JK

JK — Thu, 16 Mar 2006 00:03:32 +0000

Dugger,

I think it’s a bit “mechanical” at this point, to talk about the Iraq war “bodycount” in historical terms. Frankly, it’s grotesque. And I served.

We’re right in the middle of it. Daily reports of dozens being killed, many of them our own troops. Real people. Real families being affected.

You’re a freak. I don’t like you. I think you lie. I think you exaggerate because you’re afraid. You’re junk.

Sue me.

By: frameone

frameone — Wed, 15 Mar 2006 23:03:11 +0000

Okay then what does Gov. Kaine suggest we do? Keep the current troop levels as is or put more troops in? If someone believes we can’t take our troops out because the situation is so dire, how can they justify leaving the troop levels at their current level indefinitely?

By: Frank_D

Frank_D — Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:03:52 +0000

moonbat http://www.samizdata.net/blog/glossary_archives/001981.html

By: duros62

duros62 — Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:03:36 +0000

Usage:”Definition of a ‘barking moonbat’: someone who sacrifices sanity for the sake of consistency”
-Adriana Cronin

I dunno, sounds like your side of the fence, Frank.

By: frameone

frameone — Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:03:34 +0000

Dugger –

For all your claims to rational strategic thought you live in a Mission Accmomplished fantasy land.