Dugger

I think CSPAN does it right and Fox, nobody else – except in small snippets.

Dugger

Alright, besides MRC, every study ever done shows the opposite.

Hmmm. These researchers seem to have a whole section devoted to “Some Previous Studies of Media Bias” that demonstrate various forms of liberal bias. Maybe they were drunk when they wrote this section?

Critique the results of this particular study all you want. The point is that they cite many previous studies that also find liberal bias. Maybe all of those are flawed as well. But to say that EVERY STUDY shows a conservative bias is beyond ridiculous.

Um, could it have been Dugger’s post?

Frank, it’s an example to show you the extent to which what appear like separate and distinct media texts are, in fact, all stem from the same corporate parent with the same corporate interests at heart. It isn’t hard to find examples of Warner Bros. movies ending up on the cover of Time Magazine or NBC national or local news programming leading into medical stories with references to ER — all of it without any indication that the texts in question are coming from the same corporation. If you want to point to a handful of news stories that you believe in your heart of hearts, per Dugger, are “left leaning,” I can point to a factual, extensive network of corporate relations that, while appearing multiple on the surface, is actually a single system geared to one purpose: producing profits for the corporate parent. From GE to Time Warner to Viacom to Fox.

And BTW, Dugger, you are too funny. You may not know it but you and Stephen Colbert have a lot in common, only he’s joking.

Here’s Dugger: “I believe left wing bias is there (domainat, in fact) with my heart and soul, but I acknowledge I can t prove it … But I have never seen a study or a refutation that convinces me otherwise.”

Here’s Colbert:
http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_colbert_report/index.jhtml

“Anybody who knows me knows that I am no fan of dictionaries or reference books. They’re elitist for constantly telling us what is or isn’t true, what did or didn’t happen…

I don’t trust books. They’re all fact and no heart. And that’s exactly what’s pulling our country apart today. Because face it, folks, we are a divided nation… We are divided by those who think with their head, and those who know with their heart.

Consider Harriett Miers. If you think about Harriett Miers, of course her nomination’s absurd! But the President didn’t say he thought about this selection, he said this:

President Bush: “I know her heart.”

Notice that he didn’t say anything about her brain? He didn’t have to. He feels the truth about Harriett Miers. And what about Iraq? If you think about it, maybe there are a few missing pieces to the rationale for war. But doesn’t taking Saddam out feel like the right thing…right here in the gut? Because that’s where the truth comes from, ladies and gentlemen…the gut.

Did you know that you have more nerve endings in your stomach than in your head? Look it up. Now, somebody’s gonna say `I did look that up and its wrong’. Well, Mister, that’s because you looked it up in a book. Next time, try looking it up in your gut. I did. And my gut tells me that’s how our nervous system works.

Now I know some of you may not trust your gut…yet. But with my help you will. The “truthiness” is, anyone can read the news to you. I promise to feel the news…at you.”

I believe left wing bias is there (domainat, in fact) with my heart and soul, but I acknowledge I can’t prove it – especially to one who believes differently from myself. But I have never seen a study or a refutation that convinces me otherwise. I would think the opposite is true for you and the left.

To that end, having Fox (alone, IMO) presenting a non-biased broadcast (again, IMO) is enough to allow me to relax re ABC, NBC, CBS etc.

Dugger – Am I wrong in my construct of OW’s example?

Commentary, people interviewed, “experts,” Congresshumans. It all goes into the mix.

Frank, it isn’t just about censoring stories that make GE look bad. It’s also about pushing stories that promote GE and its corporate interests. GE makes everything from blenders to movies (NBC/Universal) to military equiptment. You’d be hard pressed to find a news story that DOESN’T impact GEs corporate interest. It’s kind of weird, don’t you think, that a company with a lot of military contracts also owns a television network that produces a dramatic series about the Pentagon:

“It’s a look inside the world’s most powerful building – The Pentagon. Don’t miss “E-Ring,” 9/8c on NBC.
Executive producer Jerry Bruckheimer (”CSI” franchise), Oscar-nominated director/producer Taylor Hackford (”Ray”) and stars Benjamin Bratt (”Traffic,” “Law & Order”) and Dennis Hopper (”Easy Rider,” “Speed”) join forces in this pulsating drama set inside the nation’s ultimate fortress: the Pentagon.”

And hey, on GEs corporate site you can also find this bit of exciting news:

“GE Rolls-Royce Fighter Engine Team Awarded Engine Development Contract

The GE Rolls-Royce Fighter Engine Team recently announced it has been awarded a contract valued at $2.4 billion to develop its F136 engine for the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program.”

Now GE also owns Universal which released Munich which I know got a lot of right wing idiots up in a huff about liberal Hollywood (it is, apparently, pro-terrorist to explore the psychological toll of revenge killing) but let’s face it, which media product do you think might have a greater impact on GEs overall relationship with the Pentagon?

What a crock. Cease your cyber bum’s rush. Studies aren’t going to prove or disprove bias. Who decides what’s biased?
I done a major media studies that quanitifie smainstream media bias in favor of the Dems by about a 2 to 1 margin. Case closed, then?? There are studies that suggest bias – like the political persuasions of the industry – or the guest line-up, but ultimately its the product selected, the way its presented, and the nature of the presentation. Then the judgment of the beholder.

Winess, OW blithley asserting that a talk show devoted to discussing a PROBLEM area for Bush with a Bush critic and a Bush supporter, moderated by amember of the opposiye party, is in fact, TADA!, Republican bias.

Dugger

Every study ever done shows the opposite.

Absolute BS.