Dugger (but what can Rove expect at $10 a pop)

“Good points, and I can t say I have any countering argument,”

Then have another cup of coffee. That Consortium article is bravo sierra.

AS ex military you should be wella ware of host tenat relationships. Happens every palce. the hoist base is still responsible for base operation adn security. The tent does whatever its mission is.

Twice the article illustrates that it completely misunderstands the CENTRAL point of the whole issue. the UAE company will neither own nor control the ports. they will not do scurity. Other than that it is speculation about Hariri and anonymous quotes.

It all wreak BS.

Dugger

Good points, and I can’t say I have any countering argument, except to say that perhaps this is the best deal we’re going to get.

What next, Halliburton?

First, Two american companies tried to bid, but were excluded. One of them is now filing suits in England and the US to block the sale – Eller & Company Inc.

Secondly… how could you not remember the Repub anger and outcry over the China acquisitions? That’s all you kept hearing… “He’s selling the country”.
What amazingly short and selective memories you guys have.

Finally that whole little rant about Soros anatomy, and contortionist positions; and a supposed political/philosophical view – that I’ve heard no one on this thread espouse… is frankly, childish.

So – next time, do a little research… you know as you advised, examine the issues.
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Frank – yes, they won’t be in charge of security, but considering how helpful they’ve been in the Hairiri Assasination investigation… and tracking the movements of the van used to kill him through UAE ports… I’m more than a little dubious. Then of course, there’s that lovely little exclusion carved into the deal that allows them to NOT maintain physical records on premises at any of the US facilities. And don’t even try to go with the technological tact… “it’s part of a paperless solution, etc.” ; this is an unusual arrangement… and as with Hariri’s van… one that makes tracking all that harder.

http://consortiumnews.com/2006/022206.html

Dugger

If it is the former, even our honored host would complain about profiling, and if it’s the latter, what are we going to do about all of the ports?

If P & O cannot sell to DPW, the immediate cause of the kerfuffle, then the ports contract remains in the hands of P & O, which is still a foreign company! When P & O wanted to sell (that was last October; this ain’t new), there were two bidders: DPW and a company from Singapore.

There were no American bidders at all!

Will the Clinton-Memendez bill require P & O to sell to an American company — when there wasn’t one interested in bidding for it in the first place? What about the ports which are managed by the Red Chinese? Will they have to sell?

What you are going to have is an American company or companies taking over port operations — at much higher costs. If none of them saw profit opportunities previously, at the kinds of prices they could charge, well the Clinton-Menendez bill will create a semi-monopoly, because only American companies will be allowed to do this work.

Might as well plan on more no-bid contracts for Halliburton!

And, in case it hasn’t crossed your minds yet, there are plenty of American companies which own facilities and companies and all sorts of things overseas. If we are going to say that no damned fur’ners can manage our ports, just what other types of things in them damned fur’in countries are going to be suddenly prohibited to American companies?

“Sorry about 9/11; thanks for the ports.

Love,
UAE”

Excuse me for being skeptical.

The U.S. September 11 commission’s report is replete with accounts of some of the 19 hijackers — two of whom came from the United Arab Emirates — using Dubai’s permissive banking system and lax passport certification to gain entry into the United States and bankroll a mission that killed more than 3,000 people.
During bin Laden’s stay in Afghanistan — where he built terror training camps, a personal army and a financial network — some of the United Arab Emirates’ upper crust, known as emirs, visited him. The United Arab Emirates was one of only a handful of countries that recognized the harsh Taliban regime, bin Laden’s protector.
In 1999, bin Laden spent time in the Afghan desert south of Kandahar near the Sheik Ali hunting camp. It was regularly used by visitors from the United Arab Emirates, according to the September 11 commission report. U.S. intelligence detected an official United Arab Emirates government airplane there on at least one occasion.
“According to reporting from the tribals, bin Laden regularly went from his adjacent camp to the larger camp where he visited the Emiratis,” according to the report.
In fact, the presence of the United Arab Emirates rulers at the camp gave the Clinton administration second thoughts about ordering an air strike to kill bin Laden, more than two years before the attack on the United States.
“According to CIA and defense officials, policy-makers were concerned about the danger that a strike would kill an Emirati prince or other senior officials who might be with bin Laden or close by,” the commission said. The Clinton administration was so concerned about the emirates’ cozy ties to bin Laden that one official called a United Arab Emirates political leader to complain.

It is synonymous with BushLove. Just as a loving family member
makes excuses for a sibling or child, so too the defense mechanisms
are in full play.

This Port matter is mostly about little of substance, and just balances
on the fulcrum of symbolism. But it is the plot line of the play, and
not this minor Act, which sums up the Fools we have allowed into
the WH.

The Plausible Denialists will carry their Mantra “We were right’ to their
grave, just as did the hard-liners who still believe Nixon was
rail-roaded.

Got it.

UAE ties to bin Laden post 9/11 – no

Got that?

At last, America is polarized, but not along party lines. Hallelujah!

Isn’t this the way you wanted it to be?

It’s what the Founding Fathers wanted… And I am loving it!

I know what I believe, I’m not changing my mind, and I don’t care whose side I’m on.

It’s about time!

Also, could you name a US company that expressed the slightest interest in doing this job? DP World has done a damned fine job managing ports (and NOT security — just the administering end) around the world, from what I’ve heard. The only threat they pose could be to dockside unions and organized crime — but I repeat myself.

If you could pry your head out of the DNC/George Soros’ ass long enough to actually LOOK at issues from anything beyond a strictly partisan perspective, and recognize that “good for the Democrats/bad for the Republicans” is a horribly shitty ruler for measuring matters outside the US borders, and actually THINK about matters, you might find yourself coming to some different conclusions.

Frankly, I doubt your ability to do that. But I’d be thrilled if you proved me wrong.

J.