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		<title>By: PD100</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/22/honest-for-a-change/#comment-24136</link>
		<dc:creator>PD100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Any idiot knows that I never said what I am being slandered with.

However, government money is already funding white supremacists, Robert Byrd is US Senator. &quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Oooooh Ian, good one.

Did Trent Lott help Strom Thurmond blow out 100 burning crosses on his brithday?

Your comment is still here, see? Unlike that piffle you call your blog on the ass end of the wingnut galaxy.

Take it easy now. I know you like a fight -just not a fair one.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Any idiot knows that I never said what I am being slandered with.</p>
<p>However, government money is already funding white supremacists, Robert Byrd is US Senator. &#8220;</i></p>
<p>Oooooh Ian, good one.</p>
<p>Did Trent Lott help Strom Thurmond blow out 100 burning crosses on his brithday?</p>
<p>Your comment is still here, see? Unlike that piffle you call your blog on the ass end of the wingnut galaxy.</p>
<p>Take it easy now. I know you like a fight -just not a fair one.</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/22/honest-for-a-change/#comment-24135</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;*crossing fingers that this isn t deleted*

Ian;

You disingenuous neocon hackmeister.

Hypocritical hosing of the host here about &#039;deletions&#039;
makes you winner of the Swineherders Golden Pig- Flop Award
for &#039;most shit shovelled&#039;

Your deletion of not only my comment on your non-sequiturd quote form
Olivers post, but the quote you took out of context as well, makes
the reality of what you truly believe synonymous with porn.

Good &#039;Scrubbing&#039;!  You have been permanetly deleted from having
any basis for complaint about the censorship of your fetid &#039;opinions&#039;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;*crossing fingers that this isn t deleted*</p>
<p>Ian;</p>
<p>You disingenuous neocon hackmeister.</p>
<p>Hypocritical hosing of the host here about &#8216;deletions&#8217;<br />
makes you winner of the Swineherders Golden Pig- Flop Award<br />
for &#8216;most shit shovelled&#8217;</p>
<p>Your deletion of not only my comment on your non-sequiturd quote form<br />
Olivers post, but the quote you took out of context as well, makes<br />
the reality of what you truly believe synonymous with porn.</p>
<p>Good &#8216;Scrubbing&#8217;!  You have been permanetly deleted from having<br />
any basis for complaint about the censorship of your fetid &#8216;opinions&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/22/honest-for-a-change/#comment-24134</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 06:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And which  federal military academy  did you attend ?&quot;

We don&#039;t know.

But we do know he&#039;s claimed to have &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2004_04/003756.php#152423&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;served on ships&lt;/a&gt;.

He&#039;s also threatened to report Rob Port to whichever North Dakota agency it is that oversees public invesigators.

Of course in doing so, he would have had to reveal his own name.

Which probably would have exposed Jadey for the full of shit liar that he is.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And which  federal military academy  did you attend ?&#8221;</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>But we do know he&#8217;s claimed to have <a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2004_04/003756.php#152423" rel="nofollow">served on ships</a>.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s also threatened to report Rob Port to whichever North Dakota agency it is that oversees public invesigators.</p>
<p>Of course in doing so, he would have had to reveal his own name.</p>
<p>Which probably would have exposed Jadey for the full of shit liar that he is.</p>
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		<title>By: Jadegold</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/22/honest-for-a-change/#comment-24133</link>
		<dc:creator>Jadegold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 04:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JD: No, you choose to believe whatever your Repug Masters tell you to believe. One of the things you learn at the Federal Military Academies is to understand the motivations and beliefs of your enemy.

You still ignore the central point: if you allow the public financing of private schools--you&#039;re opening up the possibility of spending taxpayer monies to fund religious schools that may teach white supremacy or other GOP values.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD: No, you choose to believe whatever your Repug Masters tell you to believe. One of the things you learn at the Federal Military Academies is to understand the motivations and beliefs of your enemy.</p>
<p>You still ignore the central point: if you allow the public financing of private schools&#8211;you&#8217;re opening up the possibility of spending taxpayer monies to fund religious schools that may teach white supremacy or other GOP values.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/22/honest-for-a-change/#comment-24132</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 04:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pray tell, who exactly is my master ?  I need to get in touch with them to find out what to think tomorrow.

As for the rest of your post, I think you must have simply cut and paste&#039;d it from the last 7395 posts of yours in which you speak in your most pious and pedantic tone, proclaiming yourself the arbirter of all that is good, and all that dare to disagree with you are racist vermin.

And which &quot;federal military academy&quot; did you attend ?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pray tell, who exactly is my master ?  I need to get in touch with them to find out what to think tomorrow.</p>
<p>As for the rest of your post, I think you must have simply cut and paste&#8217;d it from the last 7395 posts of yours in which you speak in your most pious and pedantic tone, proclaiming yourself the arbirter of all that is good, and all that dare to disagree with you are racist vermin.</p>
<p>And which &#8220;federal military academy&#8221; did you attend ?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/22/honest-for-a-change/#comment-24131</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 04:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JadeMold: Are you kidding me? Not that crapola again?

You don&#039;t know anything about what goes on the Federal Military Academies, except for when you saw the movie, &quot;The Long Gray Line.&quot;

I know the story of that bet you chickened out of.

BTW, I learned about the concept of &quot;knowing your enemy,&quot; in the &lt;i&gt;Reception Center&lt;/i&gt; a week before I went to Basic Training -- not exactly high - level stuff, Gen Patton, Roscoe

Since you are omniscient, you should have no problem naming all the religious schools that teach white supremacy in the United States.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JadeMold: Are you kidding me? Not that crapola again?</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t know anything about what goes on the Federal Military Academies, except for when you saw the movie, &#8220;The Long Gray Line.&#8221;</p>
<p>I know the story of that bet you chickened out of.</p>
<p>BTW, I learned about the concept of &#8220;knowing your enemy,&#8221; in the <i>Reception Center</i> a week before I went to Basic Training &#8212; not exactly high &#8211; level stuff, Gen Patton, Roscoe</p>
<p>Since you are omniscient, you should have no problem naming all the religious schools that teach white supremacy in the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/22/honest-for-a-change/#comment-24130</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 03:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jadegold : I am proud of you that you are so well versed in the language and foundations of the white supremacy movement.

I choose not to pollute my mind with that crap.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jadegold : I am proud of you that you are so well versed in the language and foundations of the white supremacy movement.</p>
<p>I choose not to pollute my mind with that crap.</p>
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		<title>By: ian</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/22/honest-for-a-change/#comment-24129</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 03:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*crossing fingers that this isn&#039;t deleted*

Any idiot knows that I never said what I am being slandered with.

However, government money is already funding white supremacists, Robert Byrd is US Senator.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*crossing fingers that this isn&#8217;t deleted*</p>
<p>Any idiot knows that I never said what I am being slandered with.</p>
<p>However, government money is already funding white supremacists, Robert Byrd is US Senator.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/22/honest-for-a-change/#comment-24128</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not a difficult concept to understand; it&#039;s a difficult concept to believe.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a difficult concept to understand; it&#8217;s a difficult concept to believe.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/22/honest-for-a-change/#comment-24127</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;For Hillary s! analogy to work, you d have to believe there s someone dumb enough to equate Catholicism and White Supremacy.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Where do you get that idea?

All she&#039;s saying is that once you open the door to government funding of private schools, there&#039;s not much of a legal basis to sort out the legitimate schools from radical separationists.

Why is that such a difficult concept?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>For Hillary s! analogy to work, you d have to believe there s someone dumb enough to equate Catholicism and White Supremacy.
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<p>Where do you get that idea?</p>
<p>All she&#8217;s saying is that once you open the door to government funding of private schools, there&#8217;s not much of a legal basis to sort out the legitimate schools from radical separationists.</p>
<p>Why is that such a difficult concept?</p>
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		<title>By: Jadegold</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/22/honest-for-a-change/#comment-24126</link>
		<dc:creator>Jadegold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;My reading of that post led me to believe that Sen. Clinton had a lousy speechwriter, that used an excess of hyperbole to make a ridiculous point. &lt;/i&gt;

If anything Senator Clinton&#039;s speechwriter assumed rightwingers had a better grasp of comparative theologies.

Of course, the speechwriter was wrong as most rightwingers aren&#039;t educated.

If you look at the ideologies of both Christian Identity and Aryan Nation (both white supremacist groups/religions) believe Adam was &quot;the placing of the White Race upon this earth. Not all races descend from Adam. Adam is the father of the White Race only....We believe that the true, literal children of the Bible are the twelve tribes of Israel, now scattered throughout the world and now known as the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Teutonic, Scandinavian, Celtic peoples.&quot;

And these kooks also note Cain was marked: &quot;We believe that there are literal children of Satan in the world today. These children are the descendants of Cain, who was a result of Eve&#039;s original sin, her physical seduction by Satan. We know that because of this sin there is a battle and a natural enmity between the children of Satan and the children of The Most High God. &quot;

Thus, we see Sen. Clinton was absolutely correct and Ian, as always, is just a boy on mom&#039;s computer.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My reading of that post led me to believe that Sen. Clinton had a lousy speechwriter, that used an excess of hyperbole to make a ridiculous point. </i></p>
<p>If anything Senator Clinton&#8217;s speechwriter assumed rightwingers had a better grasp of comparative theologies.</p>
<p>Of course, the speechwriter was wrong as most rightwingers aren&#8217;t educated.</p>
<p>If you look at the ideologies of both Christian Identity and Aryan Nation (both white supremacist groups/religions) believe Adam was &#8220;the placing of the White Race upon this earth. Not all races descend from Adam. Adam is the father of the White Race only&#8230;.We believe that the true, literal children of the Bible are the twelve tribes of Israel, now scattered throughout the world and now known as the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Teutonic, Scandinavian, Celtic peoples.&#8221;</p>
<p>And these kooks also note Cain was marked: &#8220;We believe that there are literal children of Satan in the world today. These children are the descendants of Cain, who was a result of Eve&#8217;s original sin, her physical seduction by Satan. We know that because of this sin there is a battle and a natural enmity between the children of Satan and the children of The Most High God. &#8221;</p>
<p>Thus, we see Sen. Clinton was absolutely correct and Ian, as always, is just a boy on mom&#8217;s computer.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/22/honest-for-a-change/#comment-24125</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If that&#039;s the best you can glean, Oliver, you either need glasses or tutoring in reading comprehension.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that&#8217;s the best you can glean, Oliver, you either need glasses or tutoring in reading comprehension.</p>
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		<title>By: Hattie</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/22/honest-for-a-change/#comment-24124</link>
		<dc:creator>Hattie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great British. I guess the analogy is to Great Scott!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great British. I guess the analogy is to Great Scott!</p>
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		<title>By: Responding To The Left</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/22/honest-for-a-change/#comment-24123</link>
		<dc:creator>Responding To The Left</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Stuck On Stupid&lt;/strong&gt;

Oliver must be as he writes:The best I can glean from this post is that Ian favors giving government money to white supremacists&amp; It is probably a good thing Oliver is not in a position to read anything of importance since
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Stuck On Stupid</strong></p>
<p>Oliver must be as he writes:The best I can glean from this post is that Ian favors giving government money to white supremacists&#038; It is probably a good thing Oliver is not in a position to read anything of importance since</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/22/honest-for-a-change/#comment-24122</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I supposed, with a very tortured reading of Ian&#039;s post, one might arrive at your conclusion.  Not surprising since that seems to be your default conclusion as to most issues.  Don&#039;t agree with Oliver? You must be a racist.

My reading of that post led me to believe that Sen. Clinton had a lousy speechwriter, that used an excess of hyperbole to make a ridiculous point.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I supposed, with a very tortured reading of Ian&#8217;s post, one might arrive at your conclusion.  Not surprising since that seems to be your default conclusion as to most issues.  Don&#8217;t agree with Oliver? You must be a racist.</p>
<p>My reading of that post led me to believe that Sen. Clinton had a lousy speechwriter, that used an excess of hyperbole to make a ridiculous point.</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/22/honest-for-a-change/#comment-24121</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Hillary&#039;s! analogy to work, you&#039;d have to believe there&#039;s someone dumb enough to equate Catholicism and White Supremacy.

That&#039;s as big an indictment of the failure of public schools that I&#039;ve ever seen.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Hillary&#8217;s! analogy to work, you&#8217;d have to believe there&#8217;s someone dumb enough to equate Catholicism and White Supremacy.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s as big an indictment of the failure of public schools that I&#8217;ve ever seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/22/honest-for-a-change/#comment-24120</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, No, No.

This is classic &quot;fallacy of the undistributed middle&quot;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/middle_fall.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/middle_fall.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/middle_fall.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

The black dog is male; therefore all black dogs are male.

If you believe in the Book of Genesis you must believe in white
supremicism.  Hogwash.  Just because some nutsack has his
briefs in a bunch and decides to read into text whatever meaning
he wishes to, is no indicator of what the author intended.

Hillary is right, unless you wish to adjudicate a world where
the majority can abuse a minority based on pure numbers.

The right of one becomes the right of all.  Whether you accept
as good the idea of vouchers or not,  is beside the point.  Her
position is logical and practical.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, No, No.</p>
<p>This is classic &#8220;fallacy of the undistributed middle&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/middle_fall.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/middle_fall.html" rel="nofollow">http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/middle_fall.html</a></p>
<p>The black dog is male; therefore all black dogs are male.</p>
<p>If you believe in the Book of Genesis you must believe in white<br />
supremicism.  Hogwash.  Just because some nutsack has his<br />
briefs in a bunch and decides to read into text whatever meaning<br />
he wishes to, is no indicator of what the author intended.</p>
<p>Hillary is right, unless you wish to adjudicate a world where<br />
the majority can abuse a minority based on pure numbers.</p>
<p>The right of one becomes the right of all.  Whether you accept<br />
as good the idea of vouchers or not,  is beside the point.  Her<br />
position is logical and practical.</p>
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