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I am outraged at the decision of the Upper Saint Clair school board to do away with the International Baccalaureate program by claiming it is Anti-American and is too expensive to offer. As a former student of the IB program at Schenley High School, I can tell you the curriculum does not promote anti-American viewpoints. On the contrary, I developed a greater appreciation of my American heritage by having the FREEDOM to compare and contrast my fundamental beliefs with those held by other countries and cultures. The IB coursework I took was rigorous and challenged me to open my mind to other cultures but never once persuaded me to forsake my American values and beliefs.

Who are these stupid people and why are they running our planet?

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19 Responses to “Cons Endorse The “Make Kids Dumb Program””

  1. Jadegold says:

    It is true: Repugs want kids to be stupid.

    Why?

    It creates a bigger pool of prospective Repugs.

    Most of the very best universities and colleges, both in the US and abroad, regard the IB Program as superior to the AP Program. In fact, a lot of these schools will allow students to enter as sophomores–or give credits towar graduation–to high-scoring IB students.

  2. White Whale says:

    Bigots fear what they know nothing about, which in this case appears to be a great deal. I went to school overseas in Germany and totally concur with the point of having learned and experienced more than traditional schools have to offer but I still love being American and love my country.

  3. Frank_D says:

    http://www.ibo.org/media/pressreleasefeb21.cfm

    This from the IB on Upper St. Clair (yesterday)

    IBO NORTH AMERICA OFFICE
    The International Baccalaureate Organization (IBO) respects the authority of a local school board to determine the educational programs that best meet the needs of the students and the community. However, it is with regret that we hear of the decision of the Upper St. Clair School Board to discontinue its IB programs, apparently for financial reasons [emphasis added - fd]. In our experience, such decisions are very rare.

    I don’t see anything about Cons or Repugs, do you?

  4. Jadegold says:

    Frankie, as usual, gets it wrong, From the cited article:

    Critics of the International Baccalaureate program in those nine districts all used “similar language and similar underlying reasoning,” said Paul Campbell, director of outreach at the U.S. regional International Baccalaureate office in New York. The critics can be found at conservative Web sites, including http://www.edwatch.org.

    Mr. Campbell mentioned articles in the conservative Washington Times in 2004 that focused on the faults of the program and how it failed to hold up against the Advanced Placement program that already existed in the Fairfax County Public Schools in Fairfax, Va.

    One article cited a parent in the Fairfax district who said the program pro- moted “socialism, disarmament, radical environmentalism and moral relativism, while attempting to undermine Christian religious values and national sovereignty.”

    A proposal last year to derail an International Baccalaureate program in Minnetonka, Minn., used similar arguments to those employed by Upper St. Clair board members in recent weeks.

    The Minnetonka proposal, backed by two school board members, said the IB “rejects the Judeo-Christian values held by the majority of families in our district and instead promotes the atheist, Secular Humanist principles of multiculturalism, one-world government and moral relativism.”

    The Minnetonka board eventually voted to keep the program.

    Some Upper St. Clair school board members contended the program goes against traditional Judeo-Christian values, could be considered anti-American and is associated with groups that support Marxism.

    Despite an overwhelming majority of 1,000 parents and students who came to Monday’s Upper St. Clair school board meeting to save the International Baccalaureate program, the board voted 5-4 to discontinue the program, which serves about 700 students in elementary, middle and high school.

    “Upper St. Clair is the only time I know of that politics have led to a discontinuation of all three IB programs,” Mr. Campbell said.

  5. Frank_D says:

    I dug real deep, and finally found an objection to the program, rather than a barrage of comments as to why that they’re just too peachy.

    One article cited a parent in the Fairfax district who said the program pro- moted “socialism, disarmament, radical environmentalism and moral relativism, while attempting to undermine Christian religious values and national sovereignty.”

    Silly people — wanting a school like that closed. And I’ll bet they’re not teaching ID, either.

    As usual, who knows absolutely everything about everything, knows that “Most of the very best universities and colleges, both in the US and abroad, regard the IB Program as superior to the AP Program.”

  6. bdcruel says:

    Frank, the program cost $85,000. The school is a ritzy suburb of Pittsburgh with a big budget: I doubt it’s even a line-item on the balance sheet.

  7. Also, Frank, I was an International Bacculareate student. They’re simplying lying about the curriculum, as cons continue to do with anything that smells of human progress.

  8. Frank: Read the news story, and you won’t sound so dumb. Plus, WTF is the sense of ending an advanced study program for fiscal reasons?

  9. SaveFarris says:

    Congratulations. You’ve found a cartoon less funny than “Gaggle”.

  10. Well, except Red Meat is funny and has been syndicated for many years to much kudos. Otherwise you’re dead on.

  11. Frank_D says:

    I already quoted the objection of the parents, and the statement by IBO, and that it had nothing to Republicans and Conservatives.
    But very little of what you write about ever does.
    JadeMold, when are you going to learn some manners? Are you always going to behave like a 14 year old? And you make fun of Ian, who has more class in his little finger than you do in a raft of posts, with your bullshit “everybody knows” this, and “it’s common knowledge” that. You couldn’t find a link or a reference, if it was stuck to your ass, and you were using a flashlight and a tennis racket. You’re a fraud, which might — just might — explain your juvenile behavior. You’re so testicularly challenged, you won’t even reveal your real name, your eMail, you don’t have a website.
    Talk about Keyboard Commandoes.
    Go ahead, Roscoe, tell me I’m having trouble at home, kid.

  12. Frank, if you read the article you’d see that a bunch of conservatives got on the school board, and a conservative “journal” has been leading the way with this misinformation about the IB program and that’s what has led to this regression in education in PA.

  13. Bushwacked says:

    Gee Frank, this crux of this subject is hardly worth the time spent arguing about it, much less dumping all over someone.

  14. Zappa says:

    Red Meat is comedy gold Farris comedy gold…

  15. Frank_D says:

    Bushwacked, you are correct. JadeMold isn’t even worth responding to.

    Oliver, I realize that these schools must have a special place in your heart, but these elitist training camps for globalists aren’t really worth the time.

  16. beerwulf says:

    Frank_D, you can bet that there won’t be a conservative majority on that school board for long. There is something about conservative religion that takes otherwise normal, well adjusted human beings and turns them into complete flaming assholes. (I grew up in a conservative part of Florida, so this is from personal observation.)

    Maybe it’s the fear-mongering. Maybe the promise of certainty attracts people with squirrels in the attic who can’t deal with uncertainty or who don’t have the strength of character that true faith requires. Maybe it’s the chance to be better than somebody else. Maybe it’s the ability to salve their own insecurities by attacking those pointy-headed smarty-pants who make them feel stupid.

    Whatever. You can bet that these jokers will go the way of the Dover school board and that the IB program will be back in place in a couple of years.

  17. Rheinhard says:

    Oliver, I realize that these schools must have a special place in your heart, but these elitist training camps for globalists aren t really worth the time.

    So, um, wait a sec… I take from the general tone of your statement, Frank, that to be a “globalist” is a bad thing, right? But isn’t globalisation of the international economy supposed to be a good thing? Hasn’t Bush said we need to spread the wealth, etc.?

    If globalists are now bad, why is objecting to the rapidity and secrecy with which the UAE ports deal is concluded evidence of racism or whatever the RNC talking point says it is?

    A modicum of consistency please, you’re making my head hurt.

  18. misscee says:

    Globalist? Sometimes the simplest explanation is the best. Obviously it’s about the money. Why should the state provide money for a quality educational programs in the public schools when they can provide vouchers for a religious education

  19. Frank_D says:

    Rheinhard: I’m not a globalist, I’m a regionalist. I don’t call the White House everymorning, and ask them what to think about things. Recognizing that we are approaching a truly global economy, is not the same as teaching that “we’re all the same,” or some other One World plattitude.

    I have yet to hear anyoine with a brain suggest that reaction to the UAE deal is related to either globalism or racism. Keep your words and thoughts out my mouth and brain, thank you vey much.

    misscee: I suppose the myth that school vouchers are geared towards religious education will never die. Keep it up — we all know that, in religious schools, “there be dragons.”

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