’)This sort of nonsense from Glenn Reynolds is par for the course. If he were some obscure college professor it would be no biggie, but Reynolds is who the mainstream press continually goes to as “the face” of blogging. When he stops being intellectually dishonest, people will stop calling him out.
Ann Coulter was a featured speaker at a conservative conference featuring the Vice President (for the second year in a row). Churchill is an obscure college professor. But in your minds, they’re equivalent. Sheesh.
No, look again. Reynolds singled himself out. He’s the one who imposes the “why don’t they denounce the fool” standard.
He’s just not willing to apply that standard to himself and OW has pointed to that inconsistency.
What a steaming pile of cow dung.
The left is the one that continually and routinely takes statements from people on the fringe of conservative politics, and attempts to make those fringe individuals speak for all conservatives.
The left immediately pounces on the right to “denounce” some statement, made by somebody else, and anything short of committing hari kari will not satisfy them. The only person that has to answer for Ann Coulters statements, is … drumroll … Ann Coulter.
However, this is how the left plays the game.
According to your rules, you should have to answer for all of the statements and actions of Sharpton, Jackson, Bond, Dean, Rostenkowski, Moore, Churchill, et al.
Grow up.
When Reynolds says “ I keep hearing that there s a silent majority on the Left that doesn t agree with these things. I keep waiting for it to stop being silent.
But when Oliver expects the same from Reynolds, he’s accused of trying to “destroy” him. Pathetic, Dugger.
In solidarity with the right, and to further an open exchange of ideas, you should turn off comments on any post calling out Reynolds or Malkin. Just a thought.
Well there is a huge difference. You singled Reynolds out whereas several conservative bloggers criticized Coulter. Do you respond to every ill made remark on the left. Does Kos, etc.
Of course not. This is merely your way of waging all-out warfare. Reynolds is successful and good (and always has been much nicer to you than you to he) and so he must be attacked and destroyed. Same with Malkin. When you repsond to every mispeak on the left, you have the moral authority to criticize reynolds for ebery mispeak on the right. Until then, only the yahoos will buy this one.
Dugger
i) This isn’t a “mispeak,” as though Coulter were trying to say “Arab” but raghead accidentally slipped out of her mouth. It is the way she thinks. My mother used to say of Spiro Agnew: “He has got the filthiest mind of an educated person I have ever seen.” So it goes with Coulter.
ii) The reason Reynolds was singled out here was because he has made a career out of calling Democrats to task for failing to denounce something a dreaded leftist may have said. To wit:
It’s just that the right has done a better job of muzzling and marginalizing its idiots, while the Left has embraced them.
But, when it comes time to muzzle one on his side of the spectrum, Reynolds just “ignores” them. That is the double standard Mr. Reynolds is famous for.
And InstaCracker only denounced Coulter after being deluged with calls to do so.
Before that–InstaCracker was always touting Coulter.
In short, get the hell over it. You guys aren’t going to denounce wacko liberal statements anytime soon (and Oliver, don’t sit there with the fake puzzlement, pretending it’s Ward Churchill when those wacko comments often come from the inner circle of the Democratic Party and quite often from Hollerin Dean himself) and you’ll continue to demand the other side does. So will other bloggers on the left and the right.
He is a disingenuous stealth neocon who posts the innuendoes of others
and by his silence, or minimal comment suggests his agreement but
leaves the door ajar for disavowing it later. Taking no stand, but letting
others do the heavy lifting, lets him have it both ways.
He is an arrogant, pseudo-academic who rules from his tenured,
professorial perch with the cool indifference of a serial killer.
He regards anyone who disagrees with him as a ‘troll’ and saves his
precious few genuine thoughts for his books which he promotes like
the carnival barker he is.
So now Glenn is like a serial killer? And they laugh at calling the left ‘unhinged.’
The best part of that post is where it’s shown how Insty is a liar, plain and simple. Insty claims he denounces Coulter regularly, but then one of Greenwald’s commenters goes through Insty’s archives and shows all the times he’s promoted, linked to, and approved of Coulter. This gets to the heart of what’s so profoundly weaselly about Reynolds: he tacitly approves of all kinds of fucked up right wing shit, and then pretends to be a moderate. Here’s his record on Coulter, so everyone can see how dishonest his protestations of innocence are.
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/02/why-ann-coulter-matters.html#c113994841293438321
I give up. How many?
And how is Oliver or Kos or Atrios any different than Glenn? How many times have I read where they are calling on the GOP or conservatives to denounce something some conservative has said only to wink and nod or say at most, “Yeah, that’s not good, BUT…..” and point to a ‘worse’ example from the other side, when a Democrat or liberal says something outrageous?
TomY, the majority of people who care what Coulter have to say are liberals.
Reynolds says he doesn’t agree with Coulter and condemned her. You liberals are just never, ever happy.
Actually, TomY, all that link shows is the times where instapundit was in agreement with Ann Coulter. It does not show the times where he disagreed with her.
No shit Reynolds has condemned it. But his history vis-a-vis Coulter isn’t “ignoring her” or denouncing her, as he now claims. It’s approval, my man. Here’s the evidence which you will no doubt ignore.
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/02/why-ann-coulter-matters.html#c113994841293438321
Frankly, nobody outside of Ward Churchill’s immediate family ever heard of the guy until the rightwing unearthed him.
Yet, Ann Coulter is a featured speaker at the same venue as GOP leaders.
Let’s face it, Glenn Reynolds is just your average, run-of-the-mill, racist ChickenHawk GOPer.
SO I GET HOME AND FIND MY INBOX full of complaints from lefties that I’ve been “silent” about Ann Coulter’s remarks on Friday. I guess they’re scrollbar-challenged, as I did in fact note them and link to Sean Hackbarth’s denunciation. I figured that readers would know my feelings about Coulter
Here the Glenn Reynold’s speaking out with the link to Hackbarth:
I NEVER GOT OUT OF THE BOOK BOOTHS, but Sean Hackbarth captured an explosive comment by Ann Coulter. He reports that it played badly.
“Explosive comment… that played badly” is a denunciation?
The other denuciation of his that he says we should remember occurred four years earlier on 9/13/2001.
Oliver, did you even read the post by Reynolds or only what the Greenwald hack wrote? Reynolds has condemned the remarks. Fools.
JayC;
OK he’s not a serial killer. But he is a freakin’ world class COWARD.
He is an arrogant, pseudo-academic who rules from his tenured,
professorial perch with the cool indifference of a serial killer.
Jay Caruso misquotes: So now Glenn is like a serial killer?
I guess when SportsCenter refers to Dwayne Wade as an ‘assassin’ because he hits a gamewinning shot–you really believe Wade is out killing people.
Face it, Jay—you’re a ChickenHawk because you didn’t meet the intelligence standard.
You know, this equivalency between left wing and right wing wackos seems like bullshit. Ann Coulter is one of the right’s best selling authors and speakers, and she literally jokes about killing all liberals. Who on the left is her equivalent? I’m serious, who on the left has that kind of evil rhetoric?
How about Michael Moore,
Yes, indeed. How about Michael Moore?
How many times has Michael Moore advocated killing political opponents or wishing 9/11 happened to, say, the Moonie Times? How many times has Moore advocated genocide or the forced conversion of other religions?
Face facts, Moore was right about Iraq and InstaCracker was wrong.
Jay Caruso is reduced to misquoting; this must really hurt Jay to have his hero criticized.
You notice Oliver jumps to Ward Churchill, as if he is the epitome of the Left’s “Truth to Power Squad”.
How about Michael Moore, Oliver? Which indicates a greater acceptance by the upper echelon of a party: speaking at a conference or attending a National Convention with a former President?
Or Howard Dean. Which carries more weight: a popular columnist or the HEAD OF A POLITICAL PARTY?
So JD, I’m glad you and I agree that Glenn Reynolds lied when he claimed to have a policy of ignoring Ann Coulter.
Jadegold wrote:
“How many times has Michael Moore advocated killing political opponents or wishing 9/11 happened to, say, the Moonie Times? ”
From the wikipedia: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Moore)
“On September 12th, 2001, the day after the September 11th terrorist attacks against New York City and Washington, DC, Michael Moore posted a message on his website that included the passage (since redacted from the message on the site): “Many families have been devastated tonight. This just is not right. They did not deserve to die. If someone did this to get back at Bush, then they did so by killing thousands of people who DID NOT VOTE for him! Boston, New York, DC, and the planes’ destination of California these were places that voted AGAINST Bush!”
Jadegold also calls Instapundit “instacracker” while Jadgold criticizes him for not denouncing Ann Coulter’s racist remarks with sufficient enthusiasm.
Semanticleo in his turn denounces Instapundit for being a “pseudo-academic”. Glenn Reynolds is the Beauchamp Brogan Distinguished Professor of Law at the University of Tennessee. Where’s the “pseudo” come from, Semanticleo?
You can’t think clearly if you can’t write clearly, fellas.
Whoops, Jade already covered that. Sorry.
Who misquoted Flanagan? It’s right there for those of us who can read. And I’ll tell you what, Glenn is no hero of mine, but I’d much rather have him over my house for dinner than you.
You can come over and clean the toilets – for free.
Ah, yes, JadeGold… As InstaPundit pointed out, “raghead” is about as bad as “cracker.”
What’s wrong with the Moore quote? He’s lamenting that people died, and pointed out that if someone wanted to go after Bush, it makes no sense to do it in blue states. It’s not like he’s encouraging them to kill red-staters. Whereas Coulter explicity wishes that Oklahoma City had happened at the New York times building — wishing for blue staters to die.
Schtick;
You may be aware there is more than one meaning in certain words;
Adjective
academic
1. Belonging to the school or philosophy of Plato; as, the Academic sect or philosophy.
He is no platonist, perhaps Hobbesian
Anonymous said…
” For all those who consider Insta-Glen a disgrace to the legal profession, count your blessings: At least he’s not somebody’s doctor. ”
from Greenwald comments; Pedro take note.
InstaCracker is for Reynold’s many racist remarks.
Case in point, InstaCracker once said DC would be better off as a colony, stripped of any voting rights. An odd position for a self-described Constitutional law prof to take.
Or his famous endorsement of a t-shirt which said ‘Celebrate diversity’ using the commonly used pan-African colors to promote handguns.
Of course, InstaCracker rivals the clowns at Little Green Fascists when it comes to disparaging Arabs and Muslims–only that InstaCracker doesn’t use the swear words.
Like every other lefty that uses ethnic slurs, and makes bigoted remarks, JadeGold always has a “moral” justification. Of course, no conservative doing the same thing has such a justification.
Moore’s words on 9/12 stand on their own. That’s why I quoted them in full. Jadegold name-calls because, well, it’s pretty all that remains in the leftists’ arsenal these days. Better to have them name-calling than have them in charge of national security.
I suppose stick wants us to think that what Moore said implies that he would have thought the attack justified if red-staters had died. He’s not saying that, of course.
Most right-wing howls of horror that I’ve heard about left-wing statements are either about people you’ve never heard of or based on distortion and misunderstanding, like this one.
So I’m calling out the right-wingers here: give us links to some statements as revolting as Coulter’s from left-wingers anywhere near as prominent as Coulter (something more reccent than the 1960’s, for once, please). If you’re right about them I’ll denounce them. If you’re bullshittin, like stick, I’ll call you on it.
Put up or shut up.
I had read Reynolds, hearing he was a respected constitutionalist. I was disappointed to find he was just another crybaby tenured professor who was complaining about his ill treatment at the hands the of the liberal university establishment. So if the colleges are liberal brainwashing establishments, theoretically, there would be no conservatives, righT?
Do any of you understand the term Liberal Arts? It is not called COnservative Arts for a reason. It is intended to liberate your mind, something that obviously it has failed to do for many of you shredders…pardon, threaders… who seemed to be stuck on the intellectual level of Sunday School. Informative, but hardly enlightening.
The best thing about blogs is that everyone gets to have an opinion. THe worst thing about blogs is that now everyone knows just what a total dumb shit you are.
Wilbur-
“I suppose stick wants us to think that what Moore said implies that he would have thought the attack justified if red-staters had died.”
If i would have meant that, I would have written that. By all means, tho, continue to invest your energy in moments of hate for Coulter and Reynolds. Me too, if you like. None of us is running for public office.
I was disappointed to find he was just another crybaby tenured professor who was complaining about his ill treatment at the hands the of the liberal university establishment.
Again, it’s worth pointing out that InstaCracker earned his tenure in the typical GOP fashion–through nepotism.
Stick, why don’t you explain what’s objectionable about what Moore said, then? I read them, and I don’t get the outrage. Coulter wishing McVeigh had blown up the NYT building, I get the outrage.
Tom Y : I was simply pointing out that the information you claimed to be in your link, was in fact, not contained in the link provided.
You leftists go crazy trying to point that out when Dugger or Frank posts a link, but apparently, you are just fine with misstating the content of your own links.
‘So I m calling out the right-wingers here: give us links to some statements as revolting as Coulter s from left-wingers anywhere near as prominent as Coulter.’
OK. Since you insist:
“I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems.” — John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal
The real terrorist threats are George W. Bush and his band of brown-shirted thugs.” — Sandra Bernhard
“(W)hen Communist U.S.S.R. was a superpower, the world was better off. The right-wing media is trying to marginalize the peace movement.” — Janeane Garofalo
“Have we gone to war yet? We f****** deserve to get bombed. Bring it on.” — Chrissie Hynde of The Pretenders
If someone did this to get back at Bush, then they did so by killing thousands of people who DID NOT VOTE for him! Boston, New York, DC, and the planes’ destination of California–these were places that voted AGAINST Bush!” –Michael Moore, Michaelmoore.com, September 12
NPR’s Nina Totenberg: Now they’ve got this guy [General Jerry Boykin], who’s head of the intelligence section in the Defense Department, who’s being quoted as telling various groups, while he’s in uniform, that this [war] is a Christian crusade against Muslims. I mean, this is terrible, this is seriously bad stuff….I hope he’s not long for this world.
I think he ought to be worried about what’s going on in the Good Lord’s mind, because if there is retributive justice, he’ll get AIDS from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will get it.
Totenberg
Ted Kennedy: This [Iraq war] was made up in Texas, announced in January to the Republican leadership that war was going to take place and was going to be good politically. This whole thing was a fraud.
Dick Gephardt: [Bush has] declared war on the American people.
Al Gore: [Bush] betrayed this country.
John Kerry: We have a fraudulent coalition, and I use the word fraud.
Weasel Clark: The party that stole the election in 2000 now wants to steal patriotism from us.
Bob Graham: [Bush s Iraq policy] is anti-patriotic at the core
“…And then there’s Rumsfeld who said of Iraq ‘We have our good days and our bad days.’ We should put this S.O.B. up against a wall and say ‘This is one of our bad days’ and pull the trigger. Do you want to salvage our country? Be a savior of our country? Then vote for John Kerry and get rid of the whole Bush Bunch.” — From a fund raising ad put out by the St. Petersburg Democratic Club
Republicans, whose goal in life is to profit from disaster and who don’t give a hoot about human beings, either can’t or won’t. Which is why I personally think they should be exterminated before they cause any more harm.” — The Village Voice’s Michael Feingold, in a theater review of all places
And there’s a lot more. We didn’t even hit “screw ;’em Kos etc.
Dugger, I demand unconditional surrender
JD: I claimed that, contrary to what Reynolds claimed, he did not “ignore” Coulter. In fact, the links show his a record of supporting her. That is the extent of my claim. If he has denounced her as well, that’s fine, but his record is mixed at best, and he lied by characterizing it as one of ignoring her. My claim stands.
Incidentally, I found Reynolds’ link to the other guy’s denunciation, but I didn’t find his own statement. Maybe Greenwald has something there, not that I care. I’m a little sick of this demand for apologies and denunciations. It has certainly devalued both.
You won’t mind if I merely retype the quotes and let you Google for confirmation, do you? It keeps this post from languishing in Moderation Hell.
(Upon receiving a shotgun at a campaign stop) “I thank you for the gift, but I can’t take it to the debate with me” — John Kerry
(on Republicans) ” They want to kill me and my children if they can.” — Paul Begala
“I think flying planes into a building was a faith-based initiative.” — Bill Maher
You really trust the MRC?
I know I do — way more than MM. At least at MRC they demonstrate bias, not just differences of opinion.
None of my quotes were from Bozell (though he might have covered some of the same).
Dugger