Do you think that when Mr. & Mrs. Alberto Gonzales sent their son off to school they thought that just a few years down the road he’d be Attorney General of the United States and make such a damn fool of himself and his nation in front of the Senate? Hat tip as well to Senator Leahy for calling out exactly what old “Gonzo” was up to.
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Oliver: Two secrets revealed: Leahy is a snarky old man; and where you are “told what to think.”
This reminds me so much of an SNL bit from Gulf War I, where the press kept pounding away at Schwarzkopf and Powell:
* “When exactly are you going to attack?”
* “Where are you going to strike?”
* “Give us your battle plans!”
If the Dems were even semi-serious about National Security, they’d turn off the cameras.
Was that the attorney general? From the replies, I thought it was a Supreme Court Nominee?
Leahy has to cover his rear end. Ole ‘Leaky’ himself (who was kicked off the Senate Intelligence Committee because he couldn’t keep his yap shut) is probably the one who leaked the NSA program details to the NY Times.
There’s no place in the Senate, for a US Senator to be a wiseass. Without the TV camera, he might have acted like an adult … maybe.
OMG! Once again the Dems show no class. This wasn’t the place for that sort of comment…I mean, a FUNERAL of all places! Oh wait….er….nevermind.
No Semanticleo, Osama is the bad guy. And Leahy wants to make sure Bush can’t listen in whenever Mr. Jihad wants to call someone.
yea Leahy is a bad guy. They held closed hearings where those questions and more were answered. He was being snarky and disingenous for the camera, probably knowing that no one was going to let him in on the secret…..
And as I quote in another thread, the democrats are coming around….
It’s a different program than I was beginning to let myself believe,” said Alabama Rep. Bud Cramer, the senior Democrat on the Intelligence Committee’s oversight subcommittee.
“This may be a valuable program,” Cramer said, adding that he didn’t know if it was legal. “My direction of thinking was changed tremendously.”
NOW should I say “face” Ollie?
Yeah. It’s all about Leahy. He’s the bad guy.
Since when does the AG’s *comfort-level* make a difference in these hearings? He wasn’t even pulling the “national security” card. He was just saying, “Yeah, uh, no.”
“Senator, that question makes me sad! I didn’t expect to get any difficult questions!”
And you know what? The cameras are irrelevant. This program affects US citizens, not just senators. A question isn’t any more important with the cameras off. Or is it being suggested that US citizens have no interest in knowing how the program has worked in the past and will work in the future? The cameras have nothing to do with this, except that they show Gonzalez pouting on the Senate floor. You’re embarassed; it’s okay. Happens to everyone.
Shorter MJB,
I can’t find a fact based argument…so never mind….
Stonewalled Ollie? Why would you WANT the AG to talk about highly classified operations in an open session of congress?
you DO hate america don’t you?
pedro, huh? it’s a fact that many republicans are opposing the pres on this and it’s a fact that you were wrong on WMD and never acknowledged you were wrong then lied about it.
Pedro, I’m sure you acknowledge then the fact that some repubs are coming around so it should balance out the pussy democrats who won’t stand up to bush. I’d link to an article but you wouldn’t read it anyway. You actually would say it says the opposite of what it says then deny ever having said what you said then just resort to ignoring the issue altogether. Maybe they could use the NSA program to find saddam’s WMD, oh, wait, you said they were found already. Standing by that?
I love that the attorney general stonewalls congress and for the righties, it’s the evil Demmycrat thats to blame. The self delusion of the right is amazing.
even shorter peedy;
Seek the truth=Hate America—-good sound byte peedy.
There s no place in the Senate, for a US Senator to be a wiseass. Without the TV camera, he might have acted like an adult & maybe.
But there’s always a place for a sitting Vice pResident to tell a sitting US Senator to go fcuk himself on the Senate floor. Right guys?
You really should take BabyDoc Putsch’s dick out of your mouth before you spew this sort of traitorous kimchee…
Pedro,
Oh, that’s right! If we just “stop talking about it” those Uber-evil terrorists will just “forget” that we’ve tapped the phone lines.
You truly are just stupid enough to believe that line of reasoning aren’t you? As if Bin Laden is going to use his AT&T phone card to chat it up with the local Alabaman Al Qaeda cell, then be like all, “Oh my God!…Did I just say that out loud? ON THE PHONE!!!”
Anyhow, enough with you mouthbreathers. I can’t wait for the news to come out that they’ve been using this Domestic Spying Program to listen in on the Kerry Campaign, or some CNN reporter.
It’s going to be sooooo awesome. It’s only a matter of time. The whistleblower is still out there, and there really isn’t any other reason that circumvented FISA, other than that this administration absolutely KNEW they wouldn’t get a warrant.
Pedro’s doing his disappearing act again when things get too hot about his dishonsty.
Tom, did that happen on live TV? Must have missed it…
You laugh, but the shoe-bomber operated on the exact same principle (they wouldn’t use airplanes again, would they?)
Leahy is asking for details on exactly how the program works(ed) in a public hearing. Gonzales would be a fool to give them up.
Fine. Let’s just web-cast live the daily National Security Briefing. And make sure every Intelligence report gets posted via .pdf. Freedom of Information!!!!!!!!!!
It’s unfortunate, SF, but we just can’t trust this president. The call for transparency is born out of concern regarding his continued failures and abuse of power. On everything from his complete wrongheadedness on the WMD intelligence, to his penchant for sneaking rejected policy into budget proposals. He simply can not be trusted.
If you’re upset about that, don’t take it out on those seeking to limit the abuses, but rather those who committed the abuses in the first place, warranting the initial concern (pun intended).
OK, I don’t much like to pull out the “shoe is on the other foot” card, but holy mackerel, folks! You accuse Leahy of being a wiseass? Of being snarky? That was pretty mild stuff and totally deserved.
If that was Janet Reno on the hotseat and a Publican senator, you’d laugh until you peed.
“… the terrorists will forget and start IMing each other again …”
Exactly. You want to talk about who’s serious about fighting terrorism? The Attorney General thinks that if we all just stop talking about fighting terrorism the terrorists will forget that we’re fighting them. Then they’ll lull themselves into a false sense of security and we’ll be able to nab them all at their First Annual Jihadi Cruise networking event in the Caribbean.
Tom: I’m not sure who Baby Doc Putsch is, but I can assure you noone’s dick is in my mouth as you so distastefully and disgustingly put it.
If I correctly understand your poorly typed (whose dick was in your mouth while you were trying to type?) and poorly written comment, apparently Vice President’s comment justifies Senator Leahy’s attitude.
Makes sense to me… in a stupid, left wing kind of way.
sorry, that should read: “there really isn t any other reason to circumvent FISA…”
Hmmm paul, interesting a false sense of security eh?
Why do you think that term exists? is it possible that people ARE lulled into a false sense of security? Perhaps it isn’t silly to think that the islamofascist might get tired of writing messages and taking donkey rides across the Hindu Kush to set up lunch meetings?
Perhaps they would think they could call their jihadist brethern in detroit, I mean, after all, the democrats are protecting their “constitutional” rights!
You guys have no shame. Doesn’t it embarass you at all that you and Bin Laden quote the same documents when making your arguments?
Curmudgeon, who has spent no time in the military, no time in any intel organization gives us his completely uneducated opinion about wire taps…
Thanks for wasting the electrons.
At the same time, the ranking democrat on the intelligence committee thinks the program may be very valuable and his “direction of thinking was changed tremendously. after hearing the secret briefing… (the one that Curmudgeon wasn’t at….)
Oh, and curmudgeon also has decided the president isn’t trustworthy…why?
Barking moonbat 1:
“A House Republican whose subcommittee oversees the National Security Agency broke ranks with the White House on Tuesday and called for a full Congressional inquiry into the Bush administration’s domestic eavesdropping program.
The lawmaker, Representative Heather A. Wilson of New Mexico, chairwoman of the House Intelligence Subcommittee on Technical and Tactical Intelligence, said in an interview that she had “serious concerns” about the surveillance program. By withholding information about its operations from many lawmakers, she said, the administration has deepened her apprehension about whom the agency is monitoring and why.”
Barking Moonbat 2:
“The Republican Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee F. James Sensenbrenner (R-WI) has issued 51 questions to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales on President Bush’s warrantless wiretap program.
Combined with a move by the chairman of a House subcommittee on intelligence, and hearings in the Senate, the move is likely to signal that Republicans are not going to swallow the President’s justification for the surveillance, and may be a precursor to hearings in the House. ”
Barking Moonbat 3:
MCCAIN: No. But my concerns are that we should have — the president should come to Congress with a proposal as to how we can best meet these new challenges. Look, everybody’s got a BlackBerry now, the e-mails, all of the new technologies for communications, as opposed to, say, 10 or 15 years ago where we all just had a hard line.
There are new challenges in the use of telecommunications that, in my view, indicate that we probably need some enhanced powers. But why not just come to Congress? Now Senator Specter is going to have some hearings on it — come to Congress, tell us what we need, what the president needs, and I am confident that he would get that authority.
WALLACE: But you do not believe that currently he has the legal authority to engage in these warrant-less wiretaps.
MCCAIN: You know, I don’t think so, but why not come to Congress? We can sort this all out. I don’t think — I know of no member of Congress, frankly, who, if the administration came and said here’s why we need this capability, that they wouldn’t get it. And so let’s have the hearings.
Let’s have the administration come to Congress. I think they will get that authority, whatever is reasonable and needed, and increased abilities to monitor communications are clearly in order.
Barking Moonbat 4:
“Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, for one, said he considered some of the administration’s legal justifications for the program “dangerous” in their implications, and he told Mr. Gonzales that he wanted to work on new legislation that would help those tracking terrorism ‘know what they can and can’t do.’”
Barking Moonbats 5 through 9:
“Former U.S. Rep. Bob Barr, the Republican chairman of Patriots to Restore Checks and Balances, was joined by fellow conservatives Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform; David Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union; Paul Weyrich, chairman and CEO of the Free Congress Foundation and Alan Gottlieb, founder of the Second Amendment Foundation, in urging lawmakers to use the NSA hearings to restore “much needed constitutional checks and balances to intelligence law.”
“When the Patriot Act was passed shortly after 9-11, the federal government was granted expanded access to Americans’ private information,” Barr said in a press release.
“However, federal law still clearly states that intelligence agents must have a court order to conduct electronic surveillance of Americans on these shores. Yet the federal government overstepped the protections of the Constitution and the plain language of FISA to eavesdrop on Americans’ private communication without any judicial checks and without proof that they are involved in terrorism.”
“Perhaps it isn t silly to think that the islamofascist might get tired of writing messages and taking donkey rides across the Hindu Kush to set up lunch meetings?”
Oh my god Pedro you are comedy gold.
Embarrasing? Only for Bush. King’s life was devoted to liberal causes, and for her funeral to touch upon that is totally appropriate. The barometer of taste is whether her family was offended, and they weren’t. Neither was her audience. The only people who were “offended” are the usual propagandists like Captain Ed and Kate O’Beirne, and really, who gives a shit about what you think?
You can stop right there. “Captain Ed” is a blowhard and a know-nothing. If he did, in fact, “put it best,” then no one with any awareness has bothered to weigh in.
The goal of Ms. King’s life was not to make conservatives comfortable. Why on earth would anyone pretend that her funeral should be “a moment of unity, when people from all walks of life and political persuasions could meet and agree” unless the writer is being deliberately dense?
And the “ever-bitter Jimmy Carter”? Sweet screaming monkeys, that’s just stupid.
Curmudgeon, who has spent no time in the military, no time in any intel organization gives us his completely uneducated opinion about wire taps&
Bush hasn’t spent any time in the military either…but you listen to him, hmm, strange?
Oh, and curmudgeon also has decided the president isn t trustworthy& why?
NO WMD. (and a variety of other reasons, some even pointed out in the very post your responding too. Can’t you read?)
God, I’d need a Bunker-Buster (TM) to get through that thick skull of yours.
The captainsquarters blog put it best….
Bush went to King’s funeral because of the stature of her life and the work she accomplished during it. Again, he ‘reached out’ — and what happened? The political leaders on the left turned the funeral into an embarrassing recapitulation of the Wellstone funeral, using the corpse of King as a soapbox to harangue a President who had simply come to pay his respects. Instead of focusing on a moment of unity, when people from all walks of life and political persuasions could meet and agree that Coretta Scott King had made a positive difference for America, they turned it into a partisan sniping show, with the ever-bitter Jimmy Carter making himself the center of attention, as always.”
Pedro, either you’re lying again or you misread your own posts. The point is you never claimed anything, you simply posted a link in response to OW claim that bush lied about finding WMD in 2003, and that link said that there was something found but long after bush’s speech, and the article said explicitly that the stockpile was new and unrelated to saddam. You later said that you said something about “capabilities”, which you didn’t say, but even if you had that article didn’t support that contention either becuase bush’s speech was in 2003 and the chemicals were found much later. So just admit you were dishonest or didn’t know what you were writing.
If you’d bother to go back and read what you wrote, if you had any shame, you would be embarassed. I’m giving you benefit of the doubt by saying you didn’t bother to read your old stuff, becasue if you did and you still hold that position you are even more dishonest then I thought.
Doesn t it embarass you at all that for all of Bush’s secret spying, torture, invasions and vastly increased defense budgets that Bin Laden is still free?
al, there is a big difference in calling for more information and suggesting that the POTUS should be impeached.
I for one am all for closed hearings to examine the program. I am also happy to see that the ranking democrat on the intel comittee seems to think the program was a good idea.
And do you have a problem with the family and friends of a dead soldier talking about how pro-war he was and supporting the presidents war policy? Carter was a friend of hers, as was lowrey, and they know better than you how she would want to be remembered. Read this:http://stevegilliard.blogspot.com/2006/02/theres-reason-i-pay-1295-month-for_08.html.
Who the Hell are you Imus?
by DarkSyde
Wed Feb 08, 2006 at 04:45:26 AM PDT
Yes, Imus has weighed in on proper funeral etiquette this morning, i.e., condemning those who would dare celebrate Coretta Scott King’s life at her funeral. He’s shocked I tell you, shocked!
I guess I haven’t been to enough funerals to understand the format. I would have thought that if the friends of a soldier killed in Iraq stood up at that soldier’s funeral and mentioned that the deceased supported the Iraq Debacle, and that that soldier was proud to have died in a cause he believed in, that that would be appropriate. I would have thought that if the friends of someone killed in 9/11 stood up at that person’s funeral and mentioned 9/11, that that would be appropriate.
I would have thought that friends and family would be the ones to determine how to celebrate the life of the guest of honor at any funeral. I’d have thought they would after all be the ones in a position to know that person and that they’d know what that person might want.
I would have thought that, Imus you twit, because it’s common practice in the entire civilized world. Joseph Lowery and President Jimmy Carter were personal friends of Coretta Scott King and her family. That means they get to talk about her life and her work however they deem fit. Not you buddy. Just who the hell are you to tell them what is and what is not appropriate? Who the hell are you to tell the friends and family of anyone what they ‘ought to’ say and why do you think anyone gives a shit what you think about it anyway?
Barking moonbat 10:
“I don’t believe from what I’ve heard … that he has the authority now to do what he’s doing,” Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., said last week. “Now, maybe he can convince me otherwise, but … he just can’t unilaterally decide that that 1978 law is out of date and he will be the guardian of America and he will violate that law.”
Barking moonbat 11:
“Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, R-Pa., said Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’ explanations so far for the Bush administration’s failure to first obtain warrants have been “strained” and “unrealistic.”
Barking moonbat 12:
The 13 experts said it is “beyond dispute that, in (our) democracy, the president cannot simply violate criminal laws behind closed doors because he deems them obsolete or impracticable.”
Legal analysts at the Congressional Research Service last week raised similar questions, and lawmakers have called for hearings on the NSA program.
The group included former federal judge William S. Sessions, who served as FBI director from 1987 to 1993 under President Reagan and President George H.W Bush.
Barking moonbat 13
“Bruce Fein, a deputy attorney general in the Reagan administration who is among a number of prominent Republican critics of the NSA program, said the argument underscores what he views as a lack of consistency in the administration’s legal arguments.
“If it’s good enough for international calls, then it should be good enough for domestic calls, too,” Fein said. “
Pedro, so that you can’t claim that you “forgot” or “didn’t see it”, this is what I said in response to your WMD WaPo bull a couple of threads ago. Now address it.
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/08/heather-wilson-joins-the-faaaar-left/
I think you’re on to something here Oliver. With SF, drpedro, FrankD, et al, spending all this time here getting their knickers in a twist about the ’social impropriety’ of the left, thousands of threads on other blogs are safe from their illogical and self serving posts. You might call it the flypaper strategy! We’re winning!! But seriously folks, the party of ‘toughness’ and ‘manliness’ whines anytime things don’t go their way. It was said about Bush’s father and its true about W and his cronies too, “Born on 3rd base…thought he hit a triple….” Entitlement isn’t just for government programs anymore. Where I come from if you want respect, you give respect. When the administration starts showing respect for the valid opinons of others maybe they’ll get some in return. I wouldn’t hold my breath though. The upshot of this whole deal is that they are seeing how the wind blows and their newfound sharing of information with a wider number of people in Congress is an indication of how shallow their support is even among Republicans. These folks will end up being taken down by Republicans of conscience just like Nixon was. You could look it up.
I said they had the “capability and proven ability to make WMDs”
What part of that is untrue?
Prove to me they could not make wmds? The kurds believed they could, so did the iranians…of course huge numbers of them died from them.
I never claimed we found large stockpiles, never.
Back to the drawing board MJB…..
At some point you are going to have to address the issue at hand, not sift through old posts trying to drag up some other topic so you can change the subject
Another question for Pedro,
If talking about these operations is hurting the “War on Terror”, then what do you have to say about Bush, just today, announcing that they have “thwarted 10 terrorists plots” against the United States since 2002 and then releasing details about these supposed incidents?
By your very own standards, we should sermise that the terrorists now know they’re being tracked, they know which operations have been unsuccessful and which have not, and can adjust their plans accordingly.
That, or it’s all bullshit the administration is spewing in order to push the bad press off the front page. What say you?
Genious From DarkSyde…
Thanks MJB.
Off topic (maybe).
This administration can not be trusted with the task of securing our nation. They can’t be trusted with secrets, and they can not be expected to tell the truth.
http://nationaljournal.com/about/njweekly/stories/2006/0209nj1.htm
sermise = surmise
English is one of many languages I speak. Badly.
BTW Pedro, when did they start inviting you to those secret meetings?
“King s life was devoted to liberal causes, and for her funeral to touch upon that is totally appropriate.”
That would be great- if it were simply touching on what she believed in. Is that how YOU saw it? Or did you see it as the speakers using the opportunity to do whatever they could to take swipes at the President of the United States for political reasons?
Corretta Scott King had so much more class than that. When she accompanied President Bush at the laying of a wreath at Martin Luther King’s grave last year, I don’t recall her using the occasion to make political statements aimed against the President. So why is it that people feel justified to do it “in her honor” at HER funeral.
The funeral shoud have never been focussed on the President of the United States, period. It should have stayed focussed on Coretta Scott King. And don’t give me that crap that it was. You must know better.
Just because you agree with the politics of what was said and how it was said doesn’t make it appropriate for the time.
As far as bush discussion PAST operations& .it is a political necessity with all the leftist american haters screaming about our intel operations.
He believes, rightly, that after multiple slap-downs showing HOW our operations are saving (liberal) lives in LA (you re welcome Paul, Frameone),
So you’d admit it’s all about politics, and not about what’s best for the country at large? Welcome to the other side Pedro. We’ve all known long ago that the “War on Terror” was all about power and manipulation.
I didn’t even think to put together that it was LA, so, in turn, an attempt to win over “liberals”. Looks like his propaganda spoke directly to you though.
Btw, you do know that we’re supposed to believe the hijack plot involved using shoe-bombs to blow open the cockpit, were the terrorists were to take control of the plane and then fly it into a building.
Sound plausible to you? Shoe bombs…wouldn’t that just blow up the plane?
Might Bush’s propaganda people be getting two past stories mixed up in their heads (Richard Reid and 9/11), rather than this being an actual plot?
Shoe bombs…to hijack a plane, then ramming it into a building? It would have been a better story if it involved hijacking a plane by blowing up a shoebomb in the cockpit, then crashing the plane into a commuter train full of anthrax laden backpacks, which was on it’s way to an Israeli-theme disco/coffee house.
I think that just about covers all possible terrorist imagery.
bush was a fighter pilot in the air force….I don’t think you lied about it curmudgeon, I just don’t think you are very bright…
As far as bush discussion PAST operations….it is a political necessity with all the leftist american haters screaming about our intel operations.
He believes, rightly, that after multiple slap-downs showing HOW our operations are saving (liberal) lives in LA (you’re welcome Paul, Frameone), perhaps you will stop your incessant mewling about how the POTUS is shredding the very constitution with his bare hands….
‘Course, you’ll just say the story is plausible because terrorists are stupid. Which would undermine just about everything the Bush administration has been feeding the American public for the past 5 years.
So, go ahead..say it.
bush was a fighter pilot in the air force& .
We’ll, we all know how that turned out. I just wanted to hear you say it.
The more I think about it Pedro, the more I come to realize you’re so fuckin’ disengenous, you can’t even keep your stories straight.
On one hand, it undermines the War on Terror to discuss operational details, thus the investigation into the NSA spy program is bad for America. The next minute, it perfectly OK to discuss opertional details as long as it’s Bush doing it in order to “smack down” liberals.
Which is it?
In fact, the White House didn’t want to talk about this very incident (the 2002 “plot”) back in October…but *all of a sudden* they’re little Chatty Cathy’s. What gives?
From the latest press gaggle:
It’s so obvious, to just about every person with a lick of common sense that these stories are being used to create a climate of fear. It works on you because you are afraid, you aren’t thinking clearly. Time be act brave and face the truth.
You’re being played, sucka.
SaveFarris Says:
February 9th, 2006 at 12:06 pm
Tom, did that happen on live TV? Must have missed it&
I’m sure you would have missed it, since it didn’t air on Faux Snooze. And it must not have happened, because it didn’t happen on live TV, right? What a wanker…
Tom: I m not sure who Baby Doc Putsch is, but I can assure you noone s dick is in my mouth as you so distastefully and disgustingly put it.
If I correctly understand your poorly typed (whose dick was in your mouth while you were trying to type?) and poorly written comment, apparently Vice President s comment justifies Senator Leahy s attitude.
Makes sense to me& in a stupid, left wing kind of way.
Your stupidity is showing, traitor. Then again, that’s nothing new around here. I’d explain the rationale behind BabyDoc and PapaDoc Putsch to you, but there would be big words in the explanation, and I’m afraid it would go over your head. Again. Also, no spelling mistakes – and my comment seems to be understood by those with more than two brain cells rattling around their melon. So your lack of comprehension (sorry – ask mommy what that one means when you get out of the basement) is again no surprise. That faith based edumacation sure is a wonder!
And, finally, for the ethically challenged: no, I’m not making the point that Leahy’s attitude was justified (it was, but that’s not the discussion at hand. Just more Publican attempts to take the debate off-topic). I’m making the point that youir blustery outrage at Leahy for his statements is kinda hypocritical, considering that Pencil Dick made much more outrageous statements on the Senate floor to another senator, and it appears that was just hunky-dory with you Reich-wing types.
Cry me a river, poor baby. Did your feelings get hurt? Oh, that’s right – you support the Publicans. You have no feelings. Or morals.
Your assurances are meaningless. Just like the rest of the Publican talking points that ooze out of your vacuous pie hole on a daily basis around here. I suppose it appeared poorly written to you because there were no peans of praise to our glorious Chimperor (gee – who was I talking about that time? Maybe you can ask mommy about that one too!).
>>bush was a fighter pilot in the air force& .
The only thing Bush “fought” was gravity. (However, when he was drunk, as was so often the case in those days, he lost that particular battle.)
He did not serve in Vietnam. Not one day.
“Fighter Pilot.”
You guys give single celled organisms cause for hope. I simply can not fathom how dumb you all are on a genuinely consistent basis. I’m not calling you dumb because it’s the partisan thing to do. You are demonstrably dumb. It is, what it is.
You denigrate, and ridicule, a decorated veteran like Murtha, you tear apart guys who were wounded in service of the United States, like Kerry and Cleland…
But Bush was a “fighter pilot.”
My God.
JK
JK we have been through this before…
The job of a fighter pilot is the most dangerous one that you can have in the military outside of a war.
You mean that if you don’t serve in a war zone your service doesn’t count…?
You don’t make a very convincing argument for ….anything with your discombobulated discussion based on …nothing.
BDS, its worse than drugs for destroying rational thought and discussion. You should get it treated…
Your stupidity is showing, traitor. Then again, that s nothing new around here. I d explain the rationale behind BabyDoc and PapaDoc Putsch to you, but there would be big words in the explanation, and I m afraid it would go over your head. Again. Also, no spelling mistakes – and my comment seems to be understood by those with more than two brain cells rattling around their melon. So your lack of comprehension (sorry – ask mommy what that one means when you get out of the basement) is again no surprise. That faith based edumacation sure is a wonder!
I saw no evidence that your comment was understood by anybody. If you weren’t such an arrogant prick, you might recognize sarcasm when you see it, you moron. It just so happens that I was recruited to go down to Haiti and depose Papa Doc, but, unfortunately for me, and Haiti, he died, and his son “Baby Doc” took over, so the putsch that was planned never took place. Is that enough brain cells for you, nitwit?
And, of course, the tasteless continues with the “living in the basement of my mother’s house” bit. My mother’s been dead since 1994. I must admit I am at a loss to explain why you call me a traitor, but who gives a shit, anyway?
And, finally, there is no “m” and only one “a” in “education.”
Thus endeth the lesson for the day.
I’m an arrogant prick? Either you haven’t looked in the mirror, you anti-american peice of traitourous scum, or there’s no reflection when you look.
Thanks for the lesson in willful Repugnicant ignorance of the facts.
Tom are you even an american?
What difference does that make?
Pedro, are you even a doctor?
Yea, thats what I thought. My profession makes little difference here, but when a Brit or Candadian…
(I’m guessing Brit) starts calling people “Anti-American”, well, the bullsh*t flag just has to come up
Toss off you limey cretin…..LOL
“My profession makes little difference here …”
Hilarious. Less than a week ago you were telling us all how much your expertise as a peer-review published scientist gave you extra authority in supporting the Bush administration’s war on science.
To answer your question Tom, Pedro is not a doctor but he plays one on this blog.
Sorry you have context issues Paul….when discussing scientific publications, it makes a difference what I do.
Not when discussion the fact that people who aren’t even americans are calling AMERICANS anti-american!
Any clearer yet paul?
Have you reviewed “Curious George” yet? Never mind, I will pick up an LA Weakly at the Quik-e-Mart, and get Wilbur to get me a slurpy.
“… it makes a difference what I do. ”
Sure it does, Pedro, sure it does.
wow, your school-yard repartee is rapier-like…
But clearly you still don’t get it…
I notice you haven’t established your bona fides regarding your quackery, or lack thereof. And yet you insist that I prove to your satisfaction that I am american enough to dare to criticize you.
Guess away, “doctor”. I hope you have a little bit more in your bag of tricks when you utilize your doctoring skills in the real world. Unless you think you’re a doctor because you always doctor the facts the way you like.
I don’t need to establish my credentials, or my citizenship, to the likes of you. Perhaps you could do some fact finding before you make wild accusations of someone else. Then again, why bother to start now? it’s almost as though you called me an arrogant prick while fellating the arrogant prick who’s been illegally squatting in the White House since 2001.
Oops. Sorry – different Reich winger. You all sound the same to me…