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		<title>By: JayTea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/08/gop-must-choose-sides/#comment-22393</link>
		<dc:creator>JayTea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 08:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marty, he gave the source as a press release from Howard Dean.

That needs no link. Oliver ALWAYS reports the every uttering of Dear Leader, Chairman Howling Howard, as the Gospel it is. This whole page is an extension of the DNC&#039;s press office. Just reprinting their every talking point saves Oliver the tiresome effort in coming up with his own content.

J.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marty, he gave the source as a press release from Howard Dean.</p>
<p>That needs no link. Oliver ALWAYS reports the every uttering of Dear Leader, Chairman Howling Howard, as the Gospel it is. This whole page is an extension of the DNC&#8217;s press office. Just reprinting their every talking point saves Oliver the tiresome effort in coming up with his own content.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/08/gop-must-choose-sides/#comment-22392</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 07:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oliver- this is just pathetic.

Have you yet found that Democratic plan or otherwise that you support on immigration?

We&#039;re still waiting.

By the way- where&#039;s the link to the source of this ... article? (That&#039;s not like you.)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oliver- this is just pathetic.</p>
<p>Have you yet found that Democratic plan or otherwise that you support on immigration?</p>
<p>We&#8217;re still waiting.</p>
<p>By the way- where&#8217;s the link to the source of this &#8230; article? (That&#8217;s not like you.)</p>
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		<title>By: JayTea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/08/gop-must-choose-sides/#comment-22391</link>
		<dc:creator>JayTea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 05:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Care to show some actual, I dunno, PROOF of &quot;subjecting Hispanics to extra scrutiny,&quot; Oliver? Or is it simply easier to ascribe racist motivations to your opponents than to deal with the issues?

There&#039;s a New Hampshire poet that had a hell of a lot of good things to say about the illegal immigration issue that I&#039;d rather listen to than unsubstantiated, recycled, rote accusations of racism.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;There is something that doesn&#039;t love a wall...&quot;

&quot;Good fences make good neighbors.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

J.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Care to show some actual, I dunno, PROOF of &#8220;subjecting Hispanics to extra scrutiny,&#8221; Oliver? Or is it simply easier to ascribe racist motivations to your opponents than to deal with the issues?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a New Hampshire poet that had a hell of a lot of good things to say about the illegal immigration issue that I&#8217;d rather listen to than unsubstantiated, recycled, rote accusations of racism.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;There is something that doesn&#8217;t love a wall&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Good fences make good neighbors.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/08/gop-must-choose-sides/#comment-22390</link>
		<dc:creator>drpedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 02:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is a fence really that offensive to you oliver?

How do YOU seal off a piece of geography?  Good Faith?

Do you lock your doors at night?  Is that &quot;offensive&quot;

You are just scrounging for reasons to be against this, and you aren&#039;t even believable...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is a fence really that offensive to you oliver?</p>
<p>How do YOU seal off a piece of geography?  Good Faith?</p>
<p>Do you lock your doors at night?  Is that &#8220;offensive&#8221;</p>
<p>You are just scrounging for reasons to be against this, and you aren&#8217;t even believable&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JayTea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/08/gop-must-choose-sides/#comment-22389</link>
		<dc:creator>JayTea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 23:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Oliver, you&#039;re saying that all Hispanics are illegal aliens? Or are all illegal aliens Hispanics?

This is not about race, you buffoon. It&#039;s about whether or not the United States has the right to maintain its borders or not. Vincente Fox says no. The United States Constitution and international law says yes.

I&#039;ve heard one solution kicked around: enforce our southern border in exactly the same way Mexico handles its own southern border. It&#039;s my understanding that invaders -- I&#039;m sorry, &quot;undocumented migrants&quot; -- are shot on sight.

Actually, I&#039;ve long supported relaxing immigration quotas and streamlining the process -- coupled with rigorous, almost draconian enforcement.

The real victims of this are the poor idiots who actually do follow the rules, obey the laws, do the paperwork, and come to the United States LEGALLY. It seems that they get treated a hell of a lot more shabbily than those who cut in line ahead of them. In anything resembling a just society, they&#039;d be welcomed and lauded, and the invaders kicked out with all due haste.

J.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Oliver, you&#8217;re saying that all Hispanics are illegal aliens? Or are all illegal aliens Hispanics?</p>
<p>This is not about race, you buffoon. It&#8217;s about whether or not the United States has the right to maintain its borders or not. Vincente Fox says no. The United States Constitution and international law says yes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard one solution kicked around: enforce our southern border in exactly the same way Mexico handles its own southern border. It&#8217;s my understanding that invaders &#8212; I&#8217;m sorry, &#8220;undocumented migrants&#8221; &#8212; are shot on sight.</p>
<p>Actually, I&#8217;ve long supported relaxing immigration quotas and streamlining the process &#8212; coupled with rigorous, almost draconian enforcement.</p>
<p>The real victims of this are the poor idiots who actually do follow the rules, obey the laws, do the paperwork, and come to the United States LEGALLY. It seems that they get treated a hell of a lot more shabbily than those who cut in line ahead of them. In anything resembling a just society, they&#8217;d be welcomed and lauded, and the invaders kicked out with all due haste.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/08/gop-must-choose-sides/#comment-22388</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 23:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, the conservatives must always attack, attack, attack. The conservative movement has made clear it believes in much more than enforcing current immigration rules, it believes in sealing off the border with a wall of some sort, subjecting hispanics to extra scrutiny, etc. If I felt for a second the right actually cared about the underlying policy, I&#039;d give them some credit, but its the same old ignorance wrapped up in new words.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, the conservatives must always attack, attack, attack. The conservative movement has made clear it believes in much more than enforcing current immigration rules, it believes in sealing off the border with a wall of some sort, subjecting hispanics to extra scrutiny, etc. If I felt for a second the right actually cared about the underlying policy, I&#8217;d give them some credit, but its the same old ignorance wrapped up in new words.</p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>drpedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 15:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and Paul (frameone)

Do you support your fellow writer at the LA Weakly, Mark Cooper on his story regarding the uselessness of the United Farm Workers Union?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and Paul (frameone)</p>
<p>Do you support your fellow writer at the LA Weakly, Mark Cooper on his story regarding the uselessness of the United Farm Workers Union?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/08/gop-must-choose-sides/#comment-22386</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 14:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oliver: Short answer -- the Republican Party is neither.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oliver: Short answer &#8212; the Republican Party is neither.</p>
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		<title>By: nudnik</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/08/gop-must-choose-sides/#comment-22385</link>
		<dc:creator>nudnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 04:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You and the Democratic party are muddying the issue.  It is not a question of immigration - the way that the Dems are trying to frame it - but one of &lt;b&gt;illegal &lt;/b&gt; immigration.  Closing the border to illegal immigration is a simple issue that is in no way racist.  It is simply enforcing the laws of the land.

The more interesting discussion should be what do we do after we close the border to illegal immigrants, since it is clear that the US needs cheap labor.  Increasing the number of immigrants the US allows seems to be one solution to that.

Stop demagoguing, and start thinking.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You and the Democratic party are muddying the issue.  It is not a question of immigration &#8211; the way that the Dems are trying to frame it &#8211; but one of <b>illegal </b> immigration.  Closing the border to illegal immigration is a simple issue that is in no way racist.  It is simply enforcing the laws of the land.</p>
<p>The more interesting discussion should be what do we do after we close the border to illegal immigrants, since it is clear that the US needs cheap labor.  Increasing the number of immigrants the US allows seems to be one solution to that.</p>
<p>Stop demagoguing, and start thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/08/gop-must-choose-sides/#comment-22384</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 04:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These people do not simply believe in &quot;enforcing&quot; the immigration laws. They believe in closing the border and spying on hispanics.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people do not simply believe in &#8220;enforcing&#8221; the immigration laws. They believe in closing the border and spying on hispanics.</p>
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		<title>By: stick</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/08/gop-must-choose-sides/#comment-22383</link>
		<dc:creator>stick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 02:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enforcing the immigration laws &amp; repatriating illegal aliens would send around 750,000 Mexican back south every year, plus a hopefully one-time trip for the 8-10 million that are already here. Please, Oliver, explain to me why this democratic policy embraced by Dean is not devisive and racist while Republicans proposing the same thing are racist?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enforcing the immigration laws &#038; repatriating illegal aliens would send around 750,000 Mexican back south every year, plus a hopefully one-time trip for the 8-10 million that are already here. Please, Oliver, explain to me why this democratic policy embraced by Dean is not devisive and racist while Republicans proposing the same thing are racist?</p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/08/gop-must-choose-sides/#comment-22382</link>
		<dc:creator>drpedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 01:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is divisive about enforcing our immigration laws?

Affirmative action has &quot;racial overtones&quot;, you don&#039;t have a problem with it....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is divisive about enforcing our immigration laws?</p>
<p>Affirmative action has &#8220;racial overtones&#8221;, you don&#8217;t have a problem with it&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/08/gop-must-choose-sides/#comment-22381</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it &quot;race-baiting&quot; to point out when the Republican party is preaching a strong message of divisiveness with racial overtones?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it &#8220;race-baiting&#8221; to point out when the Republican party is preaching a strong message of divisiveness with racial overtones?</p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/08/gop-must-choose-sides/#comment-22380</link>
		<dc:creator>drpedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No.....

why do you race-bait so much?

&quot;Democrats are committed to strengthening our borders and enforcing our immigration laws&quot;

Dean is a racist!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No&#8230;..</p>
<p>why do you race-bait so much?</p>
<p>&#8220;Democrats are committed to strengthening our borders and enforcing our immigration laws&#8221;</p>
<p>Dean is a racist!</p>
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