Comments on: Ollie The Greek http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/06/ollie-the-greek/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:42:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Wilbur http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/06/ollie-the-greek/#comment-21773 Wilbur Tue, 07 Feb 2006 05:02:36 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1340#comment-21773 Yes, by all means, let's get the saintly, completely unhyped Patriots back in the super bowl. But you know who might show up? The same Patriots who were made fools of by Denver a few weeks ago, who in turn were made fools of by the Steelers a week later. Neither team was near the top of its game yesterday, but they both deserved to be there, and they both might have a chance for a rematch next year. Yes, by all means, let’s get the saintly, completely unhyped Patriots back in the super bowl. But you know who might show up? The same Patriots who were made fools of by Denver a few weeks ago, who in turn were made fools of by the Steelers a week later.

Neither team was near the top of its game yesterday, but they both deserved to be there, and they both might have a chance for a rematch next year.

]]> By: JK http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/06/ollie-the-greek/#comment-21772 JK Tue, 07 Feb 2006 03:02:03 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1340#comment-21772 The Steelers won, desite a QB who posted a 22 QB Rating for the game. Horrible. Great individual play by Ward saved them. He's a player. Ho-Hum. It was a horribly played (sloppy) game, a horribly officiated game....frankly, I've seen better pre-season games. Holmgren's lack of time management was astounding, for a two-time Super Bowl coach. Cowher won, despite his "play not to lose" mentality which infested his play calling late in the game. (Particularly, right after the Seatle INT return.) Let's get some real Super Bowl caliber teams, quarterbacks and coaches, back in Super Bowl next year. Next Year's Super Bowl Matchup: New England vs. Dallas JK The Steelers won, desite a QB who posted a 22 QB Rating for the game. Horrible.

Great individual play by Ward saved them. He’s a player.

Ho-Hum. It was a horribly played (sloppy) game, a horribly officiated game….frankly, I’ve seen better pre-season games. Holmgren’s lack of time management was astounding, for a two-time Super Bowl coach. Cowher won, despite his “play not to lose” mentality which infested his play calling late in the game. (Particularly, right after the Seatle INT return.)

Let’s get some real Super Bowl caliber teams, quarterbacks and coaches, back in Super Bowl next year.

Next Year’s Super Bowl Matchup: New England vs. Dallas

JK

]]> By: James E. Powell http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/06/ollie-the-greek/#comment-21771 James E. Powell Tue, 07 Feb 2006 02:02:09 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1340#comment-21771 The offensive pass interference call that cost the Seahawks a touchdown and the holding call that cost them first and goal inside the five each changed the game and gave the Steelers advantages that they did not earn. It would be nice if the Super Bowl did not have such calls, but that's football, I guess. If I were a Seahawks fan, I would know I was robbed. But being neutral, I'd have to say that when your team totally dominates a half, they need to come away with more than 3 points. And any time your defense allows a 76 yard run, you've got to look in the mirror, not at replays. The offensive pass interference call that cost the Seahawks a touchdown and the holding call that cost them first and goal inside the five each changed the game and gave the Steelers advantages that they did not earn.

It would be nice if the Super Bowl did not have such calls, but that’s football, I guess. If I were a Seahawks fan, I would know I was robbed. But being neutral, I’d have to say that when your team totally dominates a half, they need to come away with more than 3 points.

And any time your defense allows a 76 yard run, you’ve got to look in the mirror, not at replays.

]]> By: Wilbur http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/06/ollie-the-greek/#comment-21770 Wilbur Tue, 07 Feb 2006 00:02:23 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1340#comment-21770 The next Arn City Beer I hoist will be in your honor, JWG. The next Arn City Beer I hoist will be in your honor, JWG.

]]> By: JWG http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/06/ollie-the-greek/#comment-21769 JWG Tue, 07 Feb 2006 00:02:12 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1340#comment-21769 <blockquote>You ve got me agreeing with JWG! Arrgh!</blockquote> Yeah, sorry about that : ) Sports transcends politics.

You ve got me agreeing with JWG! Arrgh!

Yeah, sorry about that : )
Sports transcends politics.

]]> By: Craigo http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/06/ollie-the-greek/#comment-21768 Craigo Mon, 06 Feb 2006 21:02:23 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1340#comment-21768 The unsportsmanlike call on Hasselbeck was completely wrong - incidental contact on a blocker while tackling the ball-carrier does not constitute an illegal block. And there was one SEA fumble that was called incomplete, to take it the other way. Engram (?) caught the ball held in two hands and turned/took a step, then lost it. I didn't have a problem with the others. Ben got the ball over the line in the air on my TiVo, Jackson stepped out of bounds, and extending your arm to arrest your momentum/push a defender away from the ball is flagrant pass interference. Doing it in the end zone with an official standing ten feet away is just begging for a flag. What I'm pissed about is that both teams played so poorly. Seattle dink-and-dunked all day, and had terrible special teams and clock management. The Pittsburgh offense showed up on about three plays. Neother of these teams played well. The unsportsmanlike call on Hasselbeck was completely wrong – incidental contact on a blocker while tackling the ball-carrier does not constitute an illegal block.

And there was one SEA fumble that was called incomplete, to take it the other way. Engram (?) caught the ball held in two hands and turned/took a step, then lost it.

I didn’t have a problem with the others. Ben got the ball over the line in the air on my TiVo, Jackson stepped out of bounds, and extending your arm to arrest your momentum/push a defender away from the ball is flagrant pass interference. Doing it in the end zone with an official standing ten feet away is just begging for a flag.

What I’m pissed about is that both teams played so poorly. Seattle dink-and-dunked all day, and had terrible special teams and clock management. The Pittsburgh offense showed up on about three plays. Neother of these teams played well.

]]> By: Wilbur http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/06/ollie-the-greek/#comment-21767 Wilbur Mon, 06 Feb 2006 21:02:02 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1340#comment-21767 You're right that Roethlisberger was trying to sneak the ball over the line after he was down, but _on his way down_ part of the ball crossed the plane of the goal line before he (and the ball he was carrying) was pushed backward by the defender. JWG's right: touchdown. And sorry, but if you push a defender away from the ball while a catchable pass is in the air, that's pass interference. Seattle's supposed to be a blue city and you guys are arguing like republicans! You've got me agreeing with JWG! Arrgh! You’re right that Roethlisberger was trying to sneak the ball over the line after he was down, but _on his way down_ part of the ball crossed the plane of the goal line before he (and the ball he was carrying) was pushed backward by the defender. JWG’s right: touchdown.

And sorry, but if you push a defender away from the ball while a catchable pass is in the air, that’s pass interference.

Seattle’s supposed to be a blue city and you guys are arguing like republicans! You’ve got me agreeing with JWG! Arrgh!

]]> By: briffy http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/06/ollie-the-greek/#comment-21766 briffy Mon, 06 Feb 2006 18:02:14 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1340#comment-21766 it is a shame to see the refs have so many bad calls in one game (Rothlisberger didn't get the ball over the goal line until after he hit the turf). more unfortunately, this was the seahawks last best chance for a super bowl in the forseeable future. shaun alexander will probably play somewhere else next year. the seahawks will never again have such an easy schedule in such a bad division. it is a shame to see the refs have so many bad calls in one game (Rothlisberger didn’t get the ball over the goal line until after he hit the turf). more unfortunately, this was the seahawks last best chance for a super bowl in the forseeable future. shaun alexander will probably play somewhere else next year. the seahawks will never again have such an easy schedule in such a bad division.

]]> By: Zappa http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/06/ollie-the-greek/#comment-21765 Zappa Mon, 06 Feb 2006 17:02:59 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1340#comment-21765 As much as I want to gripe and complain about those crappy zebra's - we would not have to worry about them if we did not drop those 3 to Stevens and those 3 to Alexander. Seattle hurt themselves and the refs seemed to halt every swing of momentum they started. Regardless of which side I am for - I really hate to see refs affect a game to that magnitude...it hurts the NFL and it is not the first time that the impact has been greater then the play on the field. - what is that line? "there is always next year" Watch out because the Seahawks are good enough to take a crack at it for 3-5 more years. As much as I want to gripe and complain about those crappy zebra’s – we would not have to worry about them if we did not drop those 3 to Stevens and those 3 to Alexander. Seattle hurt themselves and the refs seemed to halt every swing of momentum they started.
Regardless of which side I am for – I really hate to see refs affect a game to that magnitude…it hurts the NFL and it is not the first time that the impact has been greater then the play on the field.
- what is that line? “there is always next year”
Watch out because the Seahawks are good enough to take a crack at it for 3-5 more years.

]]> By: JWG http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/06/ollie-the-greek/#comment-21764 JWG Mon, 06 Feb 2006 17:02:00 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1340#comment-21764 <blockquote>Fake reverse halfback pass?</blockquote> The Steelers have done that before. Randel El was an excellent college quarterback for Indiana

Fake reverse halfback pass?

The Steelers have done that before. Randel El was an excellent college quarterback for Indiana

]]> By: EdgewaterJoe http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/06/ollie-the-greek/#comment-21763 EdgewaterJoe Mon, 06 Feb 2006 16:02:51 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1340#comment-21763 That was one of the worst officiated championship games I've ever seen. There were at least 14 disputed points -- the B.S. "pass interference" call against the Seahawks and the questionable Rothlsburger touchdown - and the trick play was set up by a call I don't think I've ever seen: a team that just gave up possession called for an illegal CRACKBACK BLOCK on an attempted tackle. The Seahawks outplayed the Steelers, but the Steelers were the more opportunistic team. That's the better way of putting it. That was one of the worst officiated championship games I’ve ever seen. There were at least 14 disputed points — the B.S. “pass interference” call against the Seahawks and the questionable Rothlsburger touchdown – and the trick play was set up by a call I don’t think I’ve ever seen: a team that just gave up possession called for an illegal CRACKBACK BLOCK on an attempted tackle.

The Seahawks outplayed the Steelers, but the Steelers were the more opportunistic team. That’s the better way of putting it.

]]> By: Quaker in a Basement http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/06/ollie-the-greek/#comment-21762 Quaker in a Basement Mon, 06 Feb 2006 16:02:43 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1340#comment-21762 As long as we're all...ahem...<i>piling on</i> the Steelers, what was with that Arenaball play in the third quarter? Fake reverse halfback pass? I haven't seen that one since high school. As long as we’re all…ahem…piling on the Steelers, what was with that Arenaball play in the third quarter? Fake reverse halfback pass? I haven’t seen that one since high school.

]]> By: JWG http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/06/ollie-the-greek/#comment-21761 JWG Mon, 06 Feb 2006 16:02:33 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1340#comment-21761 <blockquote>Steelers literally put it into the endzone after the play? Even after a replay, you STILL let  em have it?</blockquote> The ball crossed the line while Rothlisberger was in the air. Touchdown.

Steelers literally put it into the endzone after the play? Even after a replay, you STILL let  em have it?

The ball crossed the line while Rothlisberger was in the air. Touchdown.

]]> By: Leroy Brown http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/06/ollie-the-greek/#comment-21760 Leroy Brown Mon, 06 Feb 2006 15:02:53 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1340#comment-21760 And what was with the touchdown where tthe Steelers literally put it into the endzone after the play? Even after a replay, you STILL let 'em have it? And what was with the touchdown where tthe Steelers literally put it into the endzone after the play? Even after a replay, you STILL let ‘em have it?

]]> By: White Whale http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/06/ollie-the-greek/#comment-21759 White Whale Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:02:36 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1340#comment-21759 I just want to rephrase Joey Porter: "I mean I know they want the Steelers to win, but come on man!". Don't softpeddle the officiating. Tackling at the waist? Oh yeah thats a penalty. Kicks to the helmet, helmet to helmet hits, dog collar tackles... no calls. I realize that the team has to overcome all of this because it happens in sports, but that game was obsurd. The sports media were allowed to verbally masturbate about the Steelers for two weeks and then the refs obviously took their suggestions to heart. I really wish the sports media could stop slobbering over these events. All the pre-game and now post-game ass kissing totally ruins the events that they televise. I am happy for Jerome Bettis but this game just sucked. I just want to rephrase Joey Porter: “I mean I know they want the Steelers to win, but come on man!”. Don’t softpeddle the officiating. Tackling at the waist? Oh yeah thats a penalty. Kicks to the helmet, helmet to helmet hits, dog collar tackles… no calls. I realize that the team has to overcome all of this because it happens in sports, but that game was obsurd. The sports media were allowed to verbally masturbate about the Steelers for two weeks and then the refs obviously took their suggestions to heart. I really wish the sports media could stop slobbering over these events. All the pre-game and now post-game ass kissing totally ruins the events that they televise. I am happy for Jerome Bettis but this game just sucked.

]]> By: doug r http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/06/ollie-the-greek/#comment-21758 doug r Mon, 06 Feb 2006 07:02:02 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1340#comment-21758 They just weren't good enough to overcome the Steelers and those stupid calls. An early touchdown or two would have made all the difference....The Steelers probably would have scored in another play or two if that questionable touchdown had not been called. What sort of fancy-pants league calls a semi-mutual push-off pass interference? How can you get a penalty for a cut-block for 15 yards on a tackle? The Steelers were just a tiny bit better today. They just weren’t good enough to overcome the Steelers and those stupid calls. An early touchdown or two would have made all the difference….The Steelers probably would have scored in another play or two if that questionable touchdown had not been called.
What sort of fancy-pants league calls a semi-mutual push-off pass interference?
How can you get a penalty for a cut-block for 15 yards on a tackle?
The Steelers were just a tiny bit better today.

]]> By: Wilbur http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/06/ollie-the-greek/#comment-21757 Wilbur Mon, 06 Feb 2006 06:02:42 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1340#comment-21757 Seattle looked pretty good between the 30's, but they could never finish the job. Questionable calls on both sides. Both teams incredibly sloppy. Still, Pittburgh's slop beat Seattle's slop, which is the same as saying Pittsburgh beat Seattle. If Big Ben avoids that second stupid interception it could easily have ended up 28-3. Stillers and Skins in '07! Seattle looked pretty good between the 30′s, but they could never finish the job. Questionable calls on both sides. Both teams incredibly sloppy. Still, Pittburgh’s slop beat Seattle’s slop, which is the same as saying Pittsburgh beat Seattle. If Big Ben avoids that second stupid interception it could easily have ended up 28-3.

Stillers and Skins in ’07!

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/06/ollie-the-greek/#comment-21756 Oliver Willis Mon, 06 Feb 2006 05:02:30 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1340#comment-21756 Dominated? I don't think so. They looked like they were going through the motions. Dominated? I don’t think so. They looked like they were going through the motions.

]]> By: elrod http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/02/06/ollie-the-greek/#comment-21755 elrod Mon, 06 Feb 2006 05:02:26 +0000 http://improveman.com/ow2008/?p=1340#comment-21755 Seahawks didn't come out to play? For much of the game the Seahawks absolutely dominated. Stupid mistakes and some questionable calls kept the Seahawks out of the end zone. Seahawks didn’t come out to play? For much of the game the Seahawks absolutely dominated. Stupid mistakes and some questionable calls kept the Seahawks out of the end zone.

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