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		<title>By: 16</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/29/one-of-the-sillier-stories/#comment-21007</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 03:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The vast majority of liberal bloggers are not advocating the party make a turn to the left.&lt;/i&gt;

And that's why I won't donate to a lot of blogger's fund drives.

I am advocating a turn left.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The vast majority of liberal bloggers are not advocating the party make a turn to the left.</i></p>
<p>And that&#8217;s why I won&#8217;t donate to a lot of blogger&#8217;s fund drives.</p>
<p>I am advocating a turn left.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/29/one-of-the-sillier-stories/#comment-21006</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Go ahead and line up behind St. Cindy. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Having trouble making up your mind, Farris?

First you say inviting Ms. Sheehan in for a chat is "providing her a stage." Then you say you're "not implying anything of the sort." Then you say the Dems are "lining up behind St. Cindy."

I thought you people were good at "staying on message," no?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Go ahead and line up behind St. Cindy. </p></blockquote>
<p>Having trouble making up your mind, Farris?</p>
<p>First you say inviting Ms. Sheehan in for a chat is &#8220;providing her a stage.&#8221; Then you say you&#8217;re &#8220;not implying anything of the sort.&#8221; Then you say the Dems are &#8220;lining up behind St. Cindy.&#8221;</p>
<p>I thought you people were good at &#8220;staying on message,&#8221; no?</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/29/one-of-the-sillier-stories/#comment-21005</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 19:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The article you linked says that Reid, Pelosi, et al, took the time to hear what Ms. Sheehan had to say. That, to you, was the same as providing her a stage for her views.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you don't come out and immediately (or even eventually) dissassociate yourself (as &lt;a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-09-28-sheehan-mccain_x.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;John McCain&lt;/a&gt; did).

Go ahead and line up behind St. Cindy.  That and $5 million (which is all Dr. Dean has left in the account) are going to make REAL inroads this fall ... for Republicans.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The article you linked says that Reid, Pelosi, et al, took the time to hear what Ms. Sheehan had to say. That, to you, was the same as providing her a stage for her views.</p></blockquote>
<p>If you don&#8217;t come out and immediately (or even eventually) dissassociate yourself (as <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-09-28-sheehan-mccain_x.htm" rel="nofollow">John McCain</a> did).</p>
<p>Go ahead and line up behind St. Cindy.  That and $5 million (which is all Dr. Dean has left in the account) are going to make REAL inroads this fall &#8230; for Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/29/one-of-the-sillier-stories/#comment-21004</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 18:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I m not imploying anything of the sort.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You're not? Then maybe you'd like to take another crack at this:
&lt;blockquote&gt;How about &lt;a href="http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0539,fergusoncamp,68174,2.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; stage?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The article you linked says that Reid, Pelosi, et al, took the time to hear what Ms. Sheehan had to say. That, to you, was the same as providing her a stage for her views.

As it happens, I think many of her views are correct. I, too, would like to know what the "noble cause" is that justifies our presence in Iraq and the loss of American lives. "Because he tried to kill my Dad," isn't good enough.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I m not imploying anything of the sort.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re not? Then maybe you&#8217;d like to take another crack at this:</p>
<blockquote><p>How about <a href="http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0539,fergusoncamp,68174,2.html" rel="nofollow">this</a> stage?</p></blockquote>
<p>The article you linked says that Reid, Pelosi, et al, took the time to hear what Ms. Sheehan had to say. That, to you, was the same as providing her a stage for her views.</p>
<p>As it happens, I think many of her views are correct. I, too, would like to know what the &#8220;noble cause&#8221; is that justifies our presence in Iraq and the loss of American lives. &#8220;Because he tried to kill my Dad,&#8221; isn&#8217;t good enough.</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/29/one-of-the-sillier-stories/#comment-21003</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 18:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not imploying anything of the sort.  After all, Bush met with her. :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not imploying anything of the sort.  After all, Bush met with her. <img src='http://www.oliverwillis.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/29/one-of-the-sillier-stories/#comment-21002</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How about this stage?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Er, Farris? Did YOU read the article? I don't read anything that shows Dem politicians doing anything other than giving Ms. Sheehan a polite hearing.

I know, I know, if they were REAL Americans, they'd refuse to meet with her...maybe even question her sanity...definitely declare that she's not like those other GOOD moms who lost sons in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Farris, try not to get carried away, willya? One can disagree with Ms. Sheehan. That doesn't mean that everyone who's willing to hear what she has to say is doing something wrong.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How about this stage?</p></blockquote>
<p>Er, Farris? Did YOU read the article? I don&#8217;t read anything that shows Dem politicians doing anything other than giving Ms. Sheehan a polite hearing.</p>
<p>I know, I know, if they were REAL Americans, they&#8217;d refuse to meet with her&#8230;maybe even question her sanity&#8230;definitely declare that she&#8217;s not like those other GOOD moms who lost sons in Iraq and Afghanistan.</p>
<p>Farris, try not to get carried away, willya? One can disagree with Ms. Sheehan. That doesn&#8217;t mean that everyone who&#8217;s willing to hear what she has to say is doing something wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: factcheck</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/29/one-of-the-sillier-stories/#comment-21001</link>
		<dc:creator>factcheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I missed the big press conference where Howard Dean and Harry Reid locked arms with Sheehan. We don t have a stage to offer anyone anyways."
That is what you replied to with that irrelevant link.  None of those people endorsed her, nor did Bill Frist, who the picture was actually referring to.

Again, where are the pictures?  Where is the stage?  Why aren't you in school? Why haven't you enlisted?  Stop dodging the question.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I missed the big press conference where Howard Dean and Harry Reid locked arms with Sheehan. We don t have a stage to offer anyone anyways.&#8221;<br />
That is what you replied to with that irrelevant link.  None of those people endorsed her, nor did Bill Frist, who the picture was actually referring to.</p>
<p>Again, where are the pictures?  Where is the stage?  Why aren&#8217;t you in school? Why haven&#8217;t you enlisted?  Stop dodging the question.</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/29/one-of-the-sillier-stories/#comment-21000</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>factcheck, I assumed you knew how to read and would have read the text of the article.  I apoligize, I'll never overestimate you again.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>factcheck, I assumed you knew how to read and would have read the text of the article.  I apoligize, I&#8217;ll never overestimate you again.</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/29/one-of-the-sillier-stories/#comment-20999</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"A good analogy might be to turn over the reigns of a business to someone who s only been employed by the company for a year - simply because they scream the loudest."

StSwithins;

Please use PayPal to reimburse me for the irony meter which melted
down after that penultimately self-aware comment. (ergo 2000 election)

And as for the immature blogs and the screaming-mimi right wing;
well, that tactic has been SO unsuccessful for them.  Hasn't it?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A good analogy might be to turn over the reigns of a business to someone who s only been employed by the company for a year - simply because they scream the loudest.&#8221;</p>
<p>StSwithins;</p>
<p>Please use PayPal to reimburse me for the irony meter which melted<br />
down after that penultimately self-aware comment. (ergo 2000 election)</p>
<p>And as for the immature blogs and the screaming-mimi right wing;<br />
well, that tactic has been SO unsuccessful for them.  Hasn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/29/one-of-the-sillier-stories/#comment-20998</link>
		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>St Wendeler --

Political realities on the ground? Simply because they scream the loudest? The political realities on the ground show Bush at 41 percent in approval, 37 in likability and with 61 percent thinking this country is headed in the wrong direction. And yet still the Democratic leadership behaves as if it's up against a popular president whose policies are adored by the American people. Rather than respond to their base, the Dems have been cowed by a Right Wing base full of raving maniacs screaming that the world will come to an end if we don't give up all our rights now to an imperial president. How did this happen? The mainstream media gives ample time to this raving base -- Hannity, Coulter, Novak et al -- to spew their invective while writing hit pieces on how the lefty blogosphere is detroying the Democratic party. That's the problem.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>St Wendeler &#8211;</p>
<p>Political realities on the ground? Simply because they scream the loudest? The political realities on the ground show Bush at 41 percent in approval, 37 in likability and with 61 percent thinking this country is headed in the wrong direction. And yet still the Democratic leadership behaves as if it&#8217;s up against a popular president whose policies are adored by the American people. Rather than respond to their base, the Dems have been cowed by a Right Wing base full of raving maniacs screaming that the world will come to an end if we don&#8217;t give up all our rights now to an imperial president. How did this happen? The mainstream media gives ample time to this raving base &#8212; Hannity, Coulter, Novak et al &#8212; to spew their invective while writing hit pieces on how the lefty blogosphere is detroying the Democratic party. That&#8217;s the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/29/one-of-the-sillier-stories/#comment-20997</link>
		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And OldSeal why come to the defense of an ass?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And OldSeal why come to the defense of an ass?</p>
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		<title>By: factcheck</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/29/one-of-the-sillier-stories/#comment-20996</link>
		<dc:creator>factcheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 14:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't see Howard Dean and Harry Reid locking arms with Cindy Sheehan, can you link those pictures?  The only picture I see is her in Bill Frist's office.

Cons calling the mother of a dead soldier a kook, crank, and everything else in the book- have you no shame?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see Howard Dean and Harry Reid locking arms with Cindy Sheehan, can you link those pictures?  The only picture I see is her in Bill Frist&#8217;s office.</p>
<p>Cons calling the mother of a dead soldier a kook, crank, and everything else in the book- have you no shame?</p>
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		<title>By: zak822</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/29/one-of-the-sillier-stories/#comment-20995</link>
		<dc:creator>zak822</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 14:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The problem is not that you re not making hay with it. It s that angry left wing of the Democratic Party shriek to high heaven over every issue as though it s the scandal of the century. They never wait for all the facts to come out. They never take a step back and see everything for what it is. They just go batshit. "

It worked for you guys.  Did you complain then?  But then, y'all made hay with it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The problem is not that you re not making hay with it. It s that angry left wing of the Democratic Party shriek to high heaven over every issue as though it s the scandal of the century. They never wait for all the facts to come out. They never take a step back and see everything for what it is. They just go batshit. &#8221;</p>
<p>It worked for you guys.  Did you complain then?  But then, y&#8217;all made hay with it.</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/29/one-of-the-sillier-stories/#comment-20994</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 13:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I missed the big press conference where Howard Dean and Harry Reid locked arms with Sheehan. We don t have a stage to offer anyone anyways.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How about &lt;a href="http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0539,fergusoncamp,68174,2.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; stage?

Honestly Oliver.  You make it so easy.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I missed the big press conference where Howard Dean and Harry Reid locked arms with Sheehan. We don t have a stage to offer anyone anyways.</p></blockquote>
<p>How about <a href="http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0539,fergusoncamp,68174,2.html" rel="nofollow">this</a> stage?</p>
<p>Honestly Oliver.  You make it so easy.</p>
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		<title>By: stwendeler</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/29/one-of-the-sillier-stories/#comment-20993</link>
		<dc:creator>stwendeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 12:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oliver, you're right.

There is little difference in policy positions between ueber-leftwing bloggers and the Democratic Party.

The main difference (as demonstrated by this post) is that the political amateurs in the blogosphere are unwilling to recognize the actual political realities on the ground.   The Party's willingness to heed this rabid and immature wing of the Left only makes them seem unserious.   A good analogy might be to turn over the reigns of a business to someone who's only been employed by the company for a year - simply because they scream the loudest.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oliver, you&#8217;re right.</p>
<p>There is little difference in policy positions between ueber-leftwing bloggers and the Democratic Party.</p>
<p>The main difference (as demonstrated by this post) is that the political amateurs in the blogosphere are unwilling to recognize the actual political realities on the ground.   The Party&#8217;s willingness to heed this rabid and immature wing of the Left only makes them seem unserious.   A good analogy might be to turn over the reigns of a business to someone who&#8217;s only been employed by the company for a year - simply because they scream the loudest.</p>
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		<title>By: oldseal</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/29/one-of-the-sillier-stories/#comment-20992</link>
		<dc:creator>oldseal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 07:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>frameone???

I don't think you read, or maybe you just misunderstood drpedro's remarks. I think it's called "sarcasm"

&lt;a href="http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&#038;va=sarcasm" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&#038;va=sarcasm" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&#038;va=sarcasm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Quite a creative use too!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>frameone???</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you read, or maybe you just misunderstood drpedro&#8217;s remarks. I think it&#8217;s called &#8220;sarcasm&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&#038;va=sarcasm" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&#038;va=sarcasm" rel="nofollow">http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&#038;va=sarcasm</a></p>
<p>Quite a creative use too!</p>
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		<title>By: frameone</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/29/one-of-the-sillier-stories/#comment-20991</link>
		<dc:creator>frameone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 04:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"You criticize people who produce something ...."

Um, I create something every week. I write. Criticism is an art form in itself Pedro. Not that I'm saying I'm at that level but have you ever heard of James Agee, Manny Farber, Pauline Kael? Probably not.

And jesus christ, "...all I do to  prepare  is wash my hands&#038; "? I think the AMA would love to hear that. Doctor my ass.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You criticize people who produce something &#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Um, I create something every week. I write. Criticism is an art form in itself Pedro. Not that I&#8217;m saying I&#8217;m at that level but have you ever heard of James Agee, Manny Farber, Pauline Kael? Probably not.</p>
<p>And jesus christ, &#8220;&#8230;all I do to  prepare  is wash my hands&#038; &#8220;? I think the AMA would love to hear that. Doctor my ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/29/one-of-the-sillier-stories/#comment-20990</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 03:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"we surgeons". You've kept the ruse up for almost two years, pedro - is anyone buying it?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;we surgeons&#8221;. You&#8217;ve kept the ruse up for almost two years, pedro - is anyone buying it?</p>
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		<title>By: drpedro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/29/one-of-the-sillier-stories/#comment-20989</link>
		<dc:creator>drpedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 03:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether you believe me or not doesn't really matter does it?

The point still stands.....

You criticize people who produce something, don't confuse that with people who have to create something and show results.

The democrats do the same thing.....

And BTW, how do you think surgeons "prepare"?  You think we do stretching exercises or something?  I trained for about 12 years to do what I do, at this point all I do to "prepare" is wash my hands....

LOL
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether you believe me or not doesn&#8217;t really matter does it?</p>
<p>The point still stands&#8230;..</p>
<p>You criticize people who produce something, don&#8217;t confuse that with people who have to create something and show results.</p>
<p>The democrats do the same thing&#8230;..</p>
<p>And BTW, how do you think surgeons &#8220;prepare&#8221;?  You think we do stretching exercises or something?  I trained for about 12 years to do what I do, at this point all I do to &#8220;prepare&#8221; is wash my hands&#8230;.</p>
<p>LOL</p>
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