So, what you re saying is that Sen. Edwards ran a multi – million political campaign, and was challenged that he personally chased obstetricians and neurologists out of the stae of North Carolina, and no one challenged this statement throughout the campaign, including you Dem / Libs, and now you re doing evidence

That’s not even up to your standards, Frank.

If you can’t remember anyone calling bullshit on that…well, bullshit, you’re really doing yourself a favor by coming here. You really ought to keep reading something other than whatever fevered rants have kept you so misinformed.

Why do you even waste my time.

in fact, I have never heard of any one demanding proof, except here.
Good. Then you re learning something.

So, what you’re saying is that Sen. Edwards ran a multi – million political campaign, and was challenged that he personally chased obstetricians and neurologists out of the stae of North Carolina, and no one challenged this statement throughout the campaign, including you Dem / Libs, and now you’re doing evidence

Fuhgeddaboudit!

Both California and Texas are examples of states with caps on noneconomic damages in malpractice suits. Your evidence demonstrates that medical malpractice reform helps to keep insurance rates lower.

Additionally, your “8 percent” statistic is a nation-wide average based on the number of filings, so individual states can vary a great deal. And states that don’t cap damages see some very high jury awards, even if there are fewer filings, which lead to higher insurance costs for everyone in the state.

http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/38/9/25
Soaring Liability Premiums Force Practice Changes (May 2, 2003)

64.8 percent of specialists in the high-risk specialties emergency medicine, general surgery, neurosurgery, obstetrics/gynecology, orthopedic surgery, and thoracic surgery have made changes in their practice, including no longer providing certain services, referring complex cases, and even closing their practice.

24.2 percent of high-risk specialists stopped providing certain services, including emergency and trauma care and delivering babies; 92.4 percent of the high-risk specialists who stopped providing at least some services said that liability pressures were important in their decision to stop providing certain services.

http://wwwc.house.gov/smbiz/hearings/databaseDrivenHearingsSystem/displayTestimony.asp?hearingIdDateFormat=050217&testimonyId=247
AMA testimony in the House of Representatives (Feb 17, 2005)

Hospitals in North Carolina have had insurance premiums go up 400 percent to 500 percent in the past three years, the North Carolina Medical Society says. Small, rural hospitals were hit hardest.

From the National Center for State Courts:

Personal injury and other tort filings, when controlled for population growth, have declined nationally by 8 percent since 1975, and have been falling steadily in real numbers since 1996. (meaning that for the last ten years the numbers have been falling regardless of population growth, making the “crisis” even more absurd than before)

In Texas tort filings fell 37 percent between 1990 and 2000.

In California filings have plummeted 45 percent over the past decade (so much for blaming liberals).

From the federal government’s own Bureau of Justice Statistics:

In 2001, juries voted against plaintiffs in 75 percent of all medical malpractice trials.

Fun facts about the supposed $200 billion drag on the economy from what can collectively be called “ambulance chasers:”

The cost estimate comes from the insurance-industry consulting firm Tillinghast-Towers Perrin (TTP), which includes in its definition of the “tort system” insurance company administrative costs and overhead and the salaries of highly paid insurance company CEOs (in other words, anything and everything the insurance industry wants to toss in to pad the numbers).
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As for Alito, 1.7 (or 2.1 according to some sites, oeven 1.6 according to others) million may not be “wealthy” in the Bush/Cheney sense (does Alito have anymore relatives waiting to take a dirt nap and kick him some stock?), but it definitely is way above middle class.

Point,Set, Match.

What are you smokin’ peed’?

Still nothing to back up your made up “fact”?

Oh, I forgot:

 I don t have, nor does there exist, a list of doctors run out of business by edwards

Point,Set, Match.

Go to sleep and dream more revisionist history cracker, please. You are embarassing yourself more than the democrats on the senate judiciary committee…..

Like I said, you want to stand up for trial lawyers,

No, what you said was: “John Edwards destroyed doctors.” And you made that up.

Instead you hide behind the goal line, which is constantly moving.

in fact, I have never heard of any one demanding proof, except here.

Good. Then you’re learning something.

The story of the effects of John Edwards lawsuits on the practice of medicine in North Carolina have appeared in print many a time.

And it’s no coincidence that all of those stories are preciously worded, like this:

The American Medical Association lists North Carolina’s current health care situation as a “crisis” and blames it on medical-malpractice lawsuits such as the ones that made Democratic vice-presidential candidate Sen. John Edwards a millionaire many times over.

See how deceptive that is? They don’t say: “John Edwards put a doctor out of business.” They say: “Lawsuits such as the ones John Edward won…” and then they let a trade association jack them up into a crisis. (Suddenly, conservatives trust the AMA?)

Why do they do it? So people like peedro will read carelessly and pass the word along: “John Edwards destroyed doctors and caused a crisis.”

You have problems with the way the American legal system works? OK by me. But it’s ridiculous to pin the blame for all of its problems on one guy.

No has ever come forward to refute those stories, in fact, I have never heard of any one demanding proof, except here.

My money’s on VanDerVeer.`

I am not interested in another one of your puerile attempts at blocking a point by constantly demanding some other piece of information.

Other?

No, I was just asking for the information you only hinted at before:

Edwards is an ambulance chaser! He destroyed small businesses that were TRYING to help people (doctors).

You have responded adequately by admitting that you made it up.

I don’t have, nor does there exist, a list of doctors run out of business by edwards. The Wash Times article nicely describes the situation that Edwards and his ilk have put that state into.

My point is made….I am not interested in another one of your puerile attempts at blocking a point by constantly demanding some other piece of information.

The American people clearly recognized the problem, and adequately addressed it.

If you want to spend time rationalizing the exorbinant fees and the chilling effect of frivolous lawsuits…be my guest.

Gee, wonder why you didn’t post the link to the Moonie Times. Maybe because you knew it was lies and you didn’t want to be called out on them?

lets all remember that you are a limosine liberal living in ventura, Ca who knows virtually nothing about medicine and less about North Carolina,

I don’t live in Ventura or California
My sister is a doctor and my mother is a pharmacist
I was born in North Carolina

And you didn’t answer the question.

Who are the doctors that Edwards destroyed?

Thank you. Drive Through.