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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/09/the-liberal-new-york-times/#comment-18382</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>non-sequitur=Transient ischemic attack
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/09/the-liberal-new-york-times/#comment-18381</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A little OT, but I wanted to cut-and-paste this before they fix it:

Fox News website had this to say about today&#039;s hearings:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Alito also tried to convince Senate Judiciary Committee Democrats &lt;b&gt;that he will inject personal conservative views into his opinions,&lt;/b&gt; particularly when it comes to hot-button topics, if chosen to replace the retiring Justice Sandra Day O&#039;Connor.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Haw.

Paging Dr. Freud? I&#039;m sure they meant to post &quot;will not inject...&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little OT, but I wanted to cut-and-paste this before they fix it:</p>
<p>Fox News website had this to say about today&#8217;s hearings:</p>
<blockquote><p>Alito also tried to convince Senate Judiciary Committee Democrats <b>that he will inject personal conservative views into his opinions,</b> particularly when it comes to hot-button topics, if chosen to replace the retiring Justice Sandra Day O&#8217;Connor.</p>
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<p>Haw.</p>
<p>Paging Dr. Freud? I&#8217;m sure they meant to post &#8220;will not inject&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/09/the-liberal-new-york-times/#comment-18380</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 04:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;still it is clear that the New York Times has quite a different perspective on the hearings for today, and it is less favorable to the President.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

OK.

We&#039;ll go with &quot;weak example&quot; on that one.

To make a case for bias, we&#039;d need to know a bit more. The NYT isn&#039;t the only outlet reporting that exchange as the lead.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>still it is clear that the New York Times has quite a different perspective on the hearings for today, and it is less favorable to the President.</p></blockquote>
<p>OK.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll go with &#8220;weak example&#8221; on that one.</p>
<p>To make a case for bias, we&#8217;d need to know a bit more. The NYT isn&#8217;t the only outlet reporting that exchange as the lead.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/09/the-liberal-new-york-times/#comment-18379</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 03:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, cleo, not for you. Non sequiturs are all you&#039;ve ever got.

Are you ever getting tiresome.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, cleo, not for you. Non sequiturs are all you&#8217;ve ever got.</p>
<p>Are you ever getting tiresome.</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/09/the-liberal-new-york-times/#comment-18378</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 03:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alito is hogging the headlines nowadays, so  scandal  stories are hard to find online.

It&#039;s always the same, except when it&#039;s different, eh Frank?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alito is hogging the headlines nowadays, so  scandal  stories are hard to find online.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always the same, except when it&#8217;s different, eh Frank?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/09/the-liberal-new-york-times/#comment-18377</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 02:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alito is hogging the headlines nowadays, so &quot;scandal&quot; stories are hard to find online.

But here&#039;s a weak example:

Atlanta Journal and Constitution (online - homepage)

&lt;b&gt;Alito vows to keep open mind on abortion&lt;/b&gt;

story headline
&lt;i&gt;Alito Pleases GOP Senators, Not Democrats&lt;/i&gt;

so far, so good

Now, the New York Times (online)

&lt;b&gt;Presidential Power Has Limits, Alito Tells Senators&lt;/b&gt;

As I said, a weak example, but still it is clear that the New York Times has quite a different perspective on the hearings for today, and it is less favorable to the President.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alito is hogging the headlines nowadays, so &#8220;scandal&#8221; stories are hard to find online.</p>
<p>But here&#8217;s a weak example:</p>
<p>Atlanta Journal and Constitution (online &#8211; homepage)</p>
<p><b>Alito vows to keep open mind on abortion</b></p>
<p>story headline<br />
<i>Alito Pleases GOP Senators, Not Democrats</i></p>
<p>so far, so good</p>
<p>Now, the New York Times (online)</p>
<p><b>Presidential Power Has Limits, Alito Tells Senators</b></p>
<p>As I said, a weak example, but still it is clear that the New York Times has quite a different perspective on the hearings for today, and it is less favorable to the President.</p>
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		<title>By: Zappa</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/09/the-liberal-new-york-times/#comment-18376</link>
		<dc:creator>Zappa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know nor care -
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/09/the-liberal-new-york-times/#comment-18375</link>
		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank;
Stop trying to pick a fight.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank;<br />
Stop trying to pick a fight.</p>
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		<title>By: Zappa</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/09/the-liberal-new-york-times/#comment-18374</link>
		<dc:creator>Zappa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And one other point about this and other blogs flaming conservatives.  I wonder if it has anything to do with people not getting the truth from a rightly slanted news media or frustration with the current administration and the direction of this country?

Because you know - blogs - they are not the media...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And one other point about this and other blogs flaming conservatives.  I wonder if it has anything to do with people not getting the truth from a rightly slanted news media or frustration with the current administration and the direction of this country?</p>
<p>Because you know &#8211; blogs &#8211; they are not the media&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/09/the-liberal-new-york-times/#comment-18372</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank:
Read and re-read and the answer remains: depends on the facts.

I mean, what newspaper would tell a story this way:

&lt;i&gt;DENVER - (AP) - A man calling himself &quot;Quaker in a Basement&quot; said today that he was visiting his poor, ailing grandmother last Sunday.

&quot;I spent the whole day watching reruns of &lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;Matlock&lt;/i&gt; and sipping hot cocoa,&quot; the soft-spoken local resident said. &quot;That&#039;s my story. And I&#039;m sticking to it.&quot;

Denver police have identified Mr. Basement as the prime suspect in a rash of mattress tag removals that occurred on that same day. Removing the tag from a mattress is punishable by law.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank:<br />
Read and re-read and the answer remains: depends on the facts.</p>
<p>I mean, what newspaper would tell a story this way:</p>
<p><i>DENVER &#8211; (AP) &#8211; A man calling himself &#8220;Quaker in a Basement&#8221; said today that he was visiting his poor, ailing grandmother last Sunday.</p>
<p>&#8220;I spent the whole day watching reruns of </i><i>Matlock</i> and sipping hot cocoa,&#8221; the soft-spoken local resident said. &#8220;That&#8217;s my story. And I&#8217;m sticking to it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Denver police have identified Mr. Basement as the prime suspect in a rash of mattress tag removals that occurred on that same day. Removing the tag from a mattress is punishable by law.</p>
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		<title>By: Zappa</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/09/the-liberal-new-york-times/#comment-18373</link>
		<dc:creator>Zappa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting that it is ot hatred (or a strong dislike that drives you to consistently try to get in heated fights (not debate...) with progressive posters (please see the Happy Thanksgiving thread if you can&#039;t remember.  It reminds me of the guy that walks in the a honky tonk and starts talking about how dumb rednecks and cowboys are and wonders why he keeps getting into fights and tells everyone that fols that go to honky tonks always pick on him and are rude.  But if you say you don&#039;t hate then fine...whatevers...my comment was not specificly made to or about you...more of at the Bills and Anns and Dr. James and Rev. Pats and Sean Hs of the world.

I am more from the Nick Lowe school when I think &quot;Whats so funny &#039;bout peace love and understanding&quot; - because regardless of how many times I have fallen into the more base aspect of name calling etc. with you I still feel that it is best to understand where each is coming from and find that we are not so different.

Sorry about the post above - I am on a laptop and I hit a tab then enter and it saved my comment - I only meant to be curt in regards to who calls someone more names then most.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting that it is ot hatred (or a strong dislike that drives you to consistently try to get in heated fights (not debate&#8230;) with progressive posters (please see the Happy Thanksgiving thread if you can&#8217;t remember.  It reminds me of the guy that walks in the a honky tonk and starts talking about how dumb rednecks and cowboys are and wonders why he keeps getting into fights and tells everyone that fols that go to honky tonks always pick on him and are rude.  But if you say you don&#8217;t hate then fine&#8230;whatevers&#8230;my comment was not specificly made to or about you&#8230;more of at the Bills and Anns and Dr. James and Rev. Pats and Sean Hs of the world.</p>
<p>I am more from the Nick Lowe school when I think &#8220;Whats so funny &#8217;bout peace love and understanding&#8221; &#8211; because regardless of how many times I have fallen into the more base aspect of name calling etc. with you I still feel that it is best to understand where each is coming from and find that we are not so different.</p>
<p>Sorry about the post above &#8211; I am on a laptop and I hit a tab then enter and it saved my comment &#8211; I only meant to be curt in regards to who calls someone more names then most.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/09/the-liberal-new-york-times/#comment-18371</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than waste any more time generalizing, why not point us to an example of what you called out earlier?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Many stories about the DeLay  scandal  had headlines that indicated that DeLay was in serious trouble, or that the Republicans were in serious trouble. They would then quote several Democrats and liberal  political analysts  saying that the  scandal  spelled doom for the Republicans.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So name names. Who did this?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than waste any more time generalizing, why not point us to an example of what you called out earlier?</p>
<blockquote><p>Many stories about the DeLay  scandal  had headlines that indicated that DeLay was in serious trouble, or that the Republicans were in serious trouble. They would then quote several Democrats and liberal  political analysts  saying that the  scandal  spelled doom for the Republicans.
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<p>So name names. Who did this?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/09/the-liberal-new-york-times/#comment-18370</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quaker: My point was -- re -read it if you don&#039;t believe me -- that the headline was unfavorable to conservatives / Republicans, even though in the full context of the story, it could go either way.

Zappa: You can think what you want, but don&#039;t misquote me
&lt;i&gt;Judging by this, &lt;b&gt;and other blogs&lt;/b&gt;, there is way more venom aimed at conservatives by liberals than there is by conservatives at liberals.&lt;/i&gt;

Let me say this again, since you are pretending you didn&#039;t get my meaning:
Why would you say I &lt;i&gt;hate&lt;/i&gt; liberals, while saying you &lt;i&gt;mistrust&lt;/i&gt; conservatives?

In my opinion, there is not one liberal commenter on this blog that doesn&#039;t hate President Bush, to name one conservative / Republican.
And how about all this &quot;Repug&quot; and &quot;Rethug&quot; nonsense?
And calling people by names other than their chosen handles that demean and often insult the person? Who does that most?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quaker: My point was &#8212; re -read it if you don&#8217;t believe me &#8212; that the headline was unfavorable to conservatives / Republicans, even though in the full context of the story, it could go either way.</p>
<p>Zappa: You can think what you want, but don&#8217;t misquote me<br />
<i>Judging by this, <b>and other blogs</b>, there is way more venom aimed at conservatives by liberals than there is by conservatives at liberals.</i></p>
<p>Let me say this again, since you are pretending you didn&#8217;t get my meaning:<br />
Why would you say I <i>hate</i> liberals, while saying you <i>mistrust</i> conservatives?</p>
<p>In my opinion, there is not one liberal commenter on this blog that doesn&#8217;t hate President Bush, to name one conservative / Republican.<br />
And how about all this &#8220;Repug&#8221; and &#8220;Rethug&#8221; nonsense?<br />
And calling people by names other than their chosen handles that demean and often insult the person? Who does that most?</p>
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		<title>By: Zappa</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/09/the-liberal-new-york-times/#comment-18369</link>
		<dc:creator>Zappa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank -
If I judged something based on one or two facts then I would come to a faulty conclusion.
So if I base this or other &#039;liberal&#039; sites on venom going one direction or the other then I would come to the faulty conclusion that there is more liberal on con bashing.
I would argue that you have spewed plenty of venom here on OW.

I would say Quaker pretty much nails it;  When you tally you have to take out all factual reports from consideration...a spade is a spade and if you find that there are more reports slamming libs/cons with facts to back it up you would have to conclude that one or the other deserve it.  An op/ed is just that - an opinion...if you see more liberal opinions then maybe it is because folks are tired of the compassionate conservative BS we were sold.

I don&#039;t know why you hate liberals.  I do know why I distrust Cons.

Go Hawks!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank -<br />
If I judged something based on one or two facts then I would come to a faulty conclusion.<br />
So if I base this or other &#8216;liberal&#8217; sites on venom going one direction or the other then I would come to the faulty conclusion that there is more liberal on con bashing.<br />
I would argue that you have spewed plenty of venom here on OW.</p>
<p>I would say Quaker pretty much nails it;  When you tally you have to take out all factual reports from consideration&#8230;a spade is a spade and if you find that there are more reports slamming libs/cons with facts to back it up you would have to conclude that one or the other deserve it.  An op/ed is just that &#8211; an opinion&#8230;if you see more liberal opinions then maybe it is because folks are tired of the compassionate conservative BS we were sold.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why you hate liberals.  I do know why I distrust Cons.</p>
<p>Go Hawks!</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/09/the-liberal-new-york-times/#comment-18368</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further, I&#039;d make a small amendment to your statement that I quoted above:

&quot;One &lt;i&gt;must&lt;/i&gt; be very selective in picking which facts to present and which pictures to show.&quot;

Resources aren&#039;t limitless. There are only so many pages in a newspaper and so many minutes in the broadcast day. It&#039;s not possible to write an article or produce a news segment that includes all the available information.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further, I&#8217;d make a small amendment to your statement that I quoted above:</p>
<p>&#8220;One <i>must</i> be very selective in picking which facts to present and which pictures to show.&#8221;</p>
<p>Resources aren&#8217;t limitless. There are only so many pages in a newspaper and so many minutes in the broadcast day. It&#8217;s not possible to write an article or produce a news segment that includes all the available information.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank_D</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/09/the-liberal-new-york-times/#comment-18367</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dugger beat me to the keyboard, zappa. Why do I &quot;hate liberals&quot; while you &quot;distrust conservatives&quot;?

Judging by this, and other blogs, there is way more venom aimed at conservatives by liberals than there is by conservatives at liberals.
frameone, for example, is a one man venom dispenser.

But, secondly, I don&#039;t accept the idea that bias is in the eye of the beholder. There is a truth, and liberals toy around with it. There is a political &#039;center&#039; in this country, and judging by the quadrennial poll that preceded George W. Bush&#039;s 2nd 4 year term, you would call that center conservative. or, at least you should.

The liberal bias in the press, especially the dead tree press and network TV, is very real, and not a matter of opinion.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dugger beat me to the keyboard, zappa. Why do I &#8220;hate liberals&#8221; while you &#8220;distrust conservatives&#8221;?</p>
<p>Judging by this, and other blogs, there is way more venom aimed at conservatives by liberals than there is by conservatives at liberals.<br />
frameone, for example, is a one man venom dispenser.</p>
<p>But, secondly, I don&#8217;t accept the idea that bias is in the eye of the beholder. There is a truth, and liberals toy around with it. There is a political &#8216;center&#8217; in this country, and judging by the quadrennial poll that preceded George W. Bush&#8217;s 2nd 4 year term, you would call that center conservative. or, at least you should.</p>
<p>The liberal bias in the press, especially the dead tree press and network TV, is very real, and not a matter of opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/09/the-liberal-new-york-times/#comment-18366</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And one can be very selective in picking which facts to present and which ones to not present. And which pictures to show and which to not show.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not part of Frank&#039;s equation.

His test was: is the story favorable or unfavorable to conservatives and the GOP?

The facts matter. If I&#039;m caught robbing a bank, I can&#039;t holler &quot;media bias&quot; when they print a picture of me caught on the bank&#039;s security camera.

In a nutshell, bias can&#039;t be determined only by whether there are an equal number of good and bad things said about one person, or an equal number of bad things said about two different people.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And one can be very selective in picking which facts to present and which ones to not present. And which pictures to show and which to not show.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not part of Frank&#8217;s equation.</p>
<p>His test was: is the story favorable or unfavorable to conservatives and the GOP?</p>
<p>The facts matter. If I&#8217;m caught robbing a bank, I can&#8217;t holler &#8220;media bias&#8221; when they print a picture of me caught on the bank&#8217;s security camera.</p>
<p>In a nutshell, bias can&#8217;t be determined only by whether there are an equal number of good and bad things said about one person, or an equal number of bad things said about two different people.</p>
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		<title>By: Dugger</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/09/the-liberal-new-york-times/#comment-18365</link>
		<dc:creator>Dugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, Zappa.

I truly don&#039;t hate libs.  I don&#039;t hate the left posters on this site - most of whom are to the left of &quot;liberal&#039;.  It would be a crappy world w/o libs (or conservs). And if we had a major network that was like, say, NewsMax, we would then have true conservative bias.  CBS, ABC etc are the left wing equivalents of NewsMax in my book.
I still say CSPAN does what they do with a large degree of fairness and a lack of bias.

Dugger
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, Zappa.</p>
<p>I truly don&#8217;t hate libs.  I don&#8217;t hate the left posters on this site &#8211; most of whom are to the left of &#8220;liberal&#8217;.  It would be a crappy world w/o libs (or conservs). And if we had a major network that was like, say, NewsMax, we would then have true conservative bias.  CBS, ABC etc are the left wing equivalents of NewsMax in my book.<br />
I still say CSPAN does what they do with a large degree of fairness and a lack of bias.</p>
<p>Dugger</p>
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		<title>By: Zappa</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/09/the-liberal-new-york-times/#comment-18364</link>
		<dc:creator>Zappa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 18:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the reasons that the Repubs are not doomed is because of the conservative bias in the media - many outlets are falsely reporting that Jack A gave money to both Dems and Pubs and both are guilty of corruption.
But - you see tomato I see tomato - maybe it is because you hate libs and I don&#039;t trust cons?  And when we look through our differently colored glasses we see things different?  hmmm...maybe?

This is a nonproductive argument.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the reasons that the Repubs are not doomed is because of the conservative bias in the media &#8211; many outlets are falsely reporting that Jack A gave money to both Dems and Pubs and both are guilty of corruption.<br />
But &#8211; you see tomato I see tomato &#8211; maybe it is because you hate libs and I don&#8217;t trust cons?  And when we look through our differently colored glasses we see things different?  hmmm&#8230;maybe?</p>
<p>This is a nonproductive argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Zappa</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2006/01/09/the-liberal-new-york-times/#comment-18363</link>
		<dc:creator>Zappa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 18:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh...I do love the Stranger - they have some smart and funny writers working for them...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh&#8230;I do love the Stranger &#8211; they have some smart and funny writers working for them&#8230;</p>
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